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Regarding the Seuss points against VE
So it basically comes down to is OMGUS a valid point to think someone is scum. For the most case it would be an obvious no. But between certain players I think it might be a decent indicator.
For instance If someone can usually read me as town but thinks I'm scum when I have shown all my town tells. It might make me suspicious of them. VE is kind of an example of this. He can usually read if I'm town and if he tries to mislynch me when I should be very easily readable by him. Then it might be an indicator that he's scum.
Regardless tho if VE is inventor. We should be able to leave him alive and control his inventions. If he is scum then we would find out by him not making us good shit that we can direct to whom we want him to give it too. Last time we I have had a town inventor he seemed scummy So mafia let him live but he kept inventing decent shit and giving it to good standing townies. And it came to the point where scum had to take him out. I would suggest we do a similar strat. If VE is scum and inventor then we will find out eventually.
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@Seuss you suggested Misder as an alternate lurker lynch. But I don't believe you have mentioned him since. What are you current thoughts on him?
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I'm getting worried about Alakaslam. He mainly posts pictures and comments on how he knew someone was town after they die. I'm sure mafia has no intention of killing him off tonite. So seeing as he himself said there is no sure way to read him. Does anyone play enough with Alakaslam to read him well?
TBH I am surprised he hasn't been put under more pressure. I kinda have been skimming over his posts. OBW did said if we force him to he can post like a regular townie.
So with that in mind. Alakaslam can you make a write up a case tonite. OR ELSE (Scary threat here)
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On November 07 2014 04:43 Alakaslam wrote:
Nope, have to have a scumread first
Well list all the people you have a town read on. Or do one of those lists posts. So I can see where you stand on people.
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@ritoky Did you intentionally leave out Jrkirby?
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On November 07 2014 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
oats' power is nothing like ours was and he didn't really do anything, there's also some info i want to post right before deadline in regards to oats so stay tuned for that
ve.... his power isn't very towny at all like 0 town ness
He claimed inventor? From what I understand about it he can make shit and give it away to strong townies. What makes you say it isn't townie at all?
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On November 07 2014 09:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2014 09:07 jaybrundage wrote:On November 07 2014 07:52 Holyflare wrote:
oats' power is nothing like ours was and he didn't really do anything, there's also some info i want to post right before deadline in regards to oats so stay tuned for that
ve.... his power isn't very towny at all like 0 town ness He claimed inventor? From what I understand about it he can make shit and give it away to strong townies. What makes you say it isn't townie at all? reasons
Just cause your confirmed town doesn't mean you can start sucking.
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On November 07 2014 09:18 Holyflare wrote:
how stupid would it be if i tell you at night time wtf?!
Why would it matter? You said you have a vig protection thing PGO whatever. So you can say what ever you want. Also if you were bluffing it would be better to say it then die and then townie doesn't have any idea what your great revelation is.
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Dramdred tell the truth am I your muse?
On November 07 2014 10:03 Damdred wrote:targeting slam no pixtures/movies all posts over 100 characters. I can't read him well maybe it will help
On November 06 2014 13:12 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 13:09 Damdred wrote:
Lol I'm going to make it so that every 5 posts he makes hf has to post in poetic verse....
its so trolly If your gonna claim your power claim your entire power plz. Don't think you can copy paste but try to paraphrase everything it says in your PM. Why not attempt to your use your power to catch scum instead of random shit. Use it so that Misder has to post content every 6 hours or something
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On November 07 2014 10:49 Misder wrote:
##LEEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY JEEEEEEENKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS!!!!
This outta be good
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On November 07 2014 10:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
post count is normally a pretty good indicator for slam actually.
If he is posting relatively freely and semi-coherently, hes town.
Wish you could of answered this question when i asked it earlier >.<
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Am I the only one that think its weird as fuck that out of VE, Ritoky, and HF none of them was killed last night?
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I don't want to lynch Circumstance/Chairman Ray. He just got into the game. Circumstance was basically afk the whole game. While lurking is a scummy thing to do. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a busy/uninterested townie. So saying that giving Chairman Ray a chance to come back in the game and contribute would be good.
Dramdred He always seems to be someone people are suspicious of. But then it never really comes to an actually lynch. I found it weird that he was a big topic of discussion but he wasn't even a real lynch candidate compared to risk.nuke and LT. As I mentioned before I didn't like him egging on the spat between HF and VE. Also him randoming the negative vote seemed really scummy. The other possibility is he is just bad town. He seems to be a bit clueless in some aspects of how he should present him self. Unsure.
Oats is someone who had a good day one as far as I'm concerned. Day 2 was weird him and risk.nuke were going at it a bit. Risk.nuke was convinced that Oats was scum. And Oats wanted to lynch risk.nuke just as much. When Misder was provided as an alternative to the risk.nuke lynch. Oats was strongly opposed to it. And currently in day 3 with all this role/set up talk Oats seems to be thriving but he doesnt seem to be adding much scum hunting. I think he should be a possible lynch candidate today.
Misder is like the lurking 3p maybe? He almost got lynched with the shenagians on day 2. What's interesting to me. Is that after some votes were placed on him he started to start putting on content. But up till that point he had had a single post with mixed up reasoning on why he was placing a vote on risk.nuke and he seemed complacent in leaving his one post for his reasoning and waiting for the lynch to come around. In regards to his role as leeroy I had a couple comments on that. For the PM at least you have chicken. Still have chicken. IT MIGHT be a flavor thing (not leeroy's death quote) I was doing some research and also reading up on it. Useless role speculation yay + Show Spoiler +Apparently this wow player was doing a raid and everyone else died in his raid and he lived, possible 3p candidate
@Misder Do you want us to try to lynch you again or would you prefer to provide content before that happens?
Liancourt is someone that I don't even recall even looking at much. He is so forgettable and his filter is basically All one liners that don't seem to add much to the conversation. Day 1 I thought his questions were decent and he seemed interested in what was going on. But the problem is as the game has gone on the questions are comments seem to be the same. He doesn't make his own cases. I have never seen him have a disagreement with a player or a disagreement regarding reads. He just seems like sheep basically. And doesn't substantiate his own reads. Something to note here. While he displays alot of sheeping qualities he wasn't on LT's wagon. Now this could be irrelevant as when a wagon really gains speed mafia tend to jump in when they know it's a done deal but I thought it was worth mentioning. Very possible scum. Lie low, don't attract attention seems to be his MO. Very Possible scum.
HF, Ritoky Our mod confirmed townies. What surprises me is that by now we don't have mod confirmed dead townies. I know that ritoky said he has a divine shield/ bulletproof vest and HF claimed PGO or whatever. But I don't recall Ritoky claiming a hit. Or Chairman Ray saying he was notified of saving HF. As we get closer to Lylo, Mylo whatever mafia need to kill off them. Or it makes it difficult for them to find mislynch targets. When we have 2 mod confirmed town. Whom are in very good standing with the town as well it makes it a mafia nightmare. With that being said If one of them doesn't die tonite I think we should reconsider them being "confirmed town"
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Oh and i forgot Alakaslam I would be happy if someone vigged him. If we tried to go for his lynch I think it would be a a fully loaded wagon as he doesn't have anyone that can read him well enough to defend him anyway. I have asked him for a case or a scum read. But he says he doesn't have one and goes on posting videos and spamming tm's
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Oh and my day one power was Siphon Soul. I could mason with the day one lynch if I wanted too.
And Chairman Ray if you missed it I previously claimed Jaraxxus and my day 2 power was a secondary lynch I had to lock in at night between me and someone of my choosing. I picked Obi wan shinobi who unfortunately turned out to be town.
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On November 08 2014 09:54 Misder wrote:
Sorry - can't really figure out this game rn.
The PM basically said that my shot went through but I survived and that I've got a chicken. Honestly, I thought it was the way it was phrased (which I believe I can't actually copy and paste), though the more I think about it, the more I think the PM was just for flavor.
Respond to my speculation of you. Also you never claimed what the hell the chicken VE gave you.
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On November 08 2014 12:02 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 09:47 jaybrundage wrote:
I don't want to lynch Circumstance/Chairman Ray. He just got into the game. Circumstance was basically afk the whole game. While lurking is a scummy thing to do. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a busy/uninterested townie. So saying that giving Chairman Ray a chance to come back in the game and contribute would be good.
Dramdred He always seems to be someone people are suspicious of. But then it never really comes to an actually lynch. I found it weird that he was a big topic of discussion but he wasn't even a real lynch candidate compared to risk.nuke and LT. As I mentioned before I didn't like him egging on the spat between HF and VE. Also him randoming the negative vote seemed really scummy. The other possibility is he is just bad town. He seems to be a bit clueless in some aspects of how he should present him self. Unsure.
Oats is someone who had a good day one as far as I'm concerned. Day 2 was weird him and risk.nuke were going at it a bit. Risk.nuke was convinced that Oats was scum. And Oats wanted to lynch risk.nuke just as much. When Misder was provided as an alternative to the risk.nuke lynch. Oats was strongly opposed to it. And currently in day 3 with all this role/set up talk Oats seems to be thriving but he doesnt seem to be adding much scum hunting. I think he should be a possible lynch candidate today.
Liancourt is someone that I don't even recall even looking at much. He is so forgettable and his filter is basically All one liners that don't seem to add much to the conversation. Day 1 I thought his questions were decent and he seemed interested in what was going on. But the problem is as the game has gone on the questions are comments seem to be the same. He doesn't make his own cases. I have never seen him have a disagreement with a player or a disagreement regarding reads. He just seems like sheep basically. And doesn't substantiate his own reads. Something to note here. While he displays alot of sheeping qualities he wasn't on LT's wagon. Now this could be irrelevant as when a wagon really gains speed mafia tend to jump in when they know it's a done deal but I thought it was worth mentioning. Very possible scum. Lie low, don't attract attention seems to be his MO. Very Possible scum.
Here are some questions and observations for you, Why give someone a free pass for entering the game, he says he is going to catch up and is filter diving people but hes not really scum hunting per se hes trying to figure out peoples powers and has a claim thats the same as slams on the same night but that does not even enter into your list post. Why do you ignore that fact? Why don't you pressure CR hes a good player in his own right to give reads? Why give him such an easy free pass. Your read on Oats is shoddy to say the least, your saying that because risk said oats was mafia we shoudl believe him? Oats was correct in saying that people should of stayed on risk.nuke he was a huge question mark, so was misder at the time as well, there really wasn't much scum hunting to do at the points where oats was talking since they were talking about different claims and trying to figure out what was the truth. Why does that make him scum and the lynch today? Lian hasn't done much of anything all game. What good questions did he ask d1? What do you think of him saying i'm his top scum read but 24 hours past day start he hasn't even mentioned me? I think your post on me is bad, I have been bad power wise but calling me bad town I think is wrong. I've at least tried to put cases forward and try to talk things, I pressured VE I did not eg on a fight ty very much.
(Chairman Ray) Simple he just got into the game. To expect him to read the entire 150 ish pages of the thread and expect him to have insights into people's play when in contrast we have been here gradually absorbing it all over the course of the entire game is unrealistic and foolish. If we give him a chance to catch up and also be able to observe people in real time about 5 IRL days totally assuming he lives the night. Then hopefully he can meaningfully contribute.
If he was mafia wouldn't his team give him a rundown of what happened and a good counter claim list. Also it could be true we do in fact have 2 town watchers. What would stop that from happening? I don't mind pressuring people. I just don't think he should be on the docket today. We have alot more info on alot of other lynch targets.
Oats was incorrect in saying we should stay on risk.nuke. Because risk.nuke was town. If Misder is scum and we had lynched him would you be giving me this same spiel, about how we should of killed town risk.nuke instead? (Rhetorical question) I suggested Oats as a possible lynch because he is someone I had a town read previously but who lately I feel may be scum. Sometimes scum aren't terrible to the point of being obvious. His play today consisting of roles/set up isn't terrible. It just isn't what I would expect from him. I would think he would follow it with some kind of conclusion and a push to lynch someone.
(Lian) I recall thinking he seemed invested in the game day 1 and was asking questions. That hasn't been the case recently. I find it scummy as hell that he hasn't pushed you when your his top scum candidate. I also find it odd that he has never been mentioned before as possible scum. I think part of it was him just lying low all the time. Which as we go on is appearing more and more scummy. As we approach lylo we need people to be forward about there views. We can't have anyone just following the crowd just because cause it lets scum blend in.
Dramdred alot of confirmed townies seemed to think you have been scummy. Maybe its not a conspiracy and you can improve your play if in fact you are town.
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On November 08 2014 12:32 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky is correct you ar emissing the best parts of this day in your analysis, it almost seems like you are contributing without doing so. And what was your new power after dueling obi
Didn't get a new power.
On November 08 2014 12:33 ritoky wrote:
I really dislike that jayb post, it doesn't arrive anywhere....it just says maybe we should lynch 4 people....seems really non-committal. HF do i have confirmation bias on jayb?
Rofl yea dude, no kidding, there is no conclusion. I wanted to inject the thread with some stuff I have been thinking about and turning around in my head and hopefully bounce some ideas off of people as well. After set up and role talk no one seemed to get back to scum hunting on the merit of someone's posting. Instead it was hoping scum misstepped in claiming or WIFOMING what role should go with what alignment (Ritoky....)
If you want the TLDR version tho I think Misder/Lian would be the better lynches today. Part of that depends if Misder claims 3p or not. (can he do that?)
On November 08 2014 12:50 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 12:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Oats was incorrect in saying we should stay on risk.nuke. Because risk.nuke was town. As opposed to slam who theorized that me and risk were mafia together with LT, placed his vote early in the phase on risk, and just afk'd the phase away? Why are you so harsh on oats but not slam?
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On November 08 2014 12:50 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2014 12:42 jaybrundage wrote:
Oats was incorrect in saying we should stay on risk.nuke. Because risk.nuke was town. As opposed to slam who theorized that me and risk were mafia together with LT, placed his vote early in the phase on risk, and just afk'd the phase away? Why are you so harsh on oats but not slam?
(Posted before I was done)
I only asked someone to vig Alakaslam. Not harsh at all amirte?
To reiterate Oats is someone that has quite a few town reads. But his play hasn't been rock steady town play either. Because of that he would be in a good position if hes mafia. Sure he could be town, but considering alternative possibilities is usually a good way to go
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On November 08 2014 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
CR is smoking some shit.
I dont know what the fuck his scumread on Misder is.
PURELY FROM ROLE SPECULATION
##vote CR
I hate you Oats lol
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