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On November 02 2014 12:06 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was. I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me". And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing? You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1. I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia." It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome. I disagree. I think his case says the following: 1) damdred had done nothing to the point where he deserved anything more than a gut read leaning town. 2) damdred was doing things that were actively anti-town and deserved pressure. 3) OWS comes swooping in and starts calling damdred town before he has really done anything 4) THEN damdred claims and gives reads so his issue is that it seems like you were ready to call him town pre-mature, before he had done anything to warrant it. maybe that's where you say the disagreement is; but frankly I am still waiting to see what he had done prior to claiming to deserve it. and not LT's weak BS. overall i think LT is wayyyyy worse than you. your reasoning is bad reasoning but at least it's reasoning and you stick behind it. LT just grafted onto someone else's point, and when asked for a reason made up some of the weakest shit i have ever read. didn't even feel like he believed what he was typing. would lynch him right now.
please don't do that hf rit was spewing it for a few posts
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HF why are you giving so much pressure to obis defense of me? I admit I'm biased towards obi I think thread context in a few points make him look better for instance. But you give one post towards Lt who's read/defense of me looks worse than obis?
Also we should consider GB at this point, hasn't delivered cases, play has fallen through the floor and is playing towards his scum meta really hard
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What in the world?
Why circumstance? Why change off me? Why ignore everything that's been said I even wrote a case to ask me about missed?
GB missed, is a policy lynch almost he's a lurker, did seem to fish some but nothing new to go on for me so idk what you want on that no new info to shape reads.
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He could be done a few weird things but another lurker lynch.
So you going to keep dodging or actually answer
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So are you just going after me or lurkers now GB?
There's been at least 6 pages on obi, I posted a case and you ignore all of that?
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What case link me I haven't seen anything you really said.
and no you in another post said the same thing about no.risk and another lurker so its like you just oicked one and will move to another
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Oh you said case on me lol that's not me
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Looking at the votes and the amount of people going afk (GB will jump on the chance) that will give me at least 4 votes and the way votes are looking the easiest path to consolidation is me or Lt.
I'm still catching up busy day at work so far will post thoughts in a sec
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On November 03 2014 07:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
People I currently peg as solid town,
HF: can never read him
riotsky: i am sheep and HF is muh welsh shepherd (also other reasons that i dont need to go over)
VE: double-lynch is always pro town, and my town read on him hasn't changed
GB: meeeeeeta read, also he's not playing passive scummerdoge game
Slam: his "theory" makes me peg him as donkey town lel
Scummerdoges
Jaybrundage: clearly not an OMGUS read, no siree (I actually want to see if anyone picks up on it)
liancourt: (also want to see if anyone picks up on the reasoning here)
circumstance: reasons, but because he's also clearly scum with liancourt
This caught my eye who can tell me what's wrong and inconsistant
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Why should he claim? We have already been over that role=/=alignment I believe right?
I think risk thing about promising to contribute tommorow instead of right now is scummy, if he's been skimming he should know lynch is between me Lt risk so he should be able to give thoughts on the two.
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I don't think we should lynch Lt.. I read his scum game on break...not sure at all
risk.nuke is the lynch
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29 minutes is not to late, i finaly got home
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Either lets jump on risk.nuke or kirby. we need about 7 people ready to jump though in the next 21 minutes roughly.
I am ready.
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IF NOBODY IS SAYING IM THE MEDIC WE DONT LYNCH THE UN CC MEDIC
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SHENANIGANS ONTO JRKIRBY OR RISK.NUKE
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i would consolidate with circumstance as well, but i feel better about risk.nuke and jrkirby probably more with risk with his saying he doesn't have time but complaining in time about being scum read instead of helping
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We have 9 minutes roughly to figure this out, i will consolidate on circumstance.
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bah but gb is there i don't wan tto vote with my scum read...
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Yea i honestly feel horrible about it now
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On November 03 2014 12:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 12:00 Damdred wrote:
Yea i honestly feel horrible about it now Don't feel too bad lol
Now that he flipped mafia i feel a bit better but i wish i would of been on him early now....
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