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On November 01 2014 14:36 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 14:08 ritoky wrote:On November 01 2014 13:29 jaybrundage wrote:On November 01 2014 12:29 liancourt wrote:On November 01 2014 08:29 ritoky wrote:
VE, I think your original post accusing risk was not as directed as what you just recently said as what you are letting on. I think the emphasis was less so on how mafia find it easy to talk about 3rd party and such, and moreso directed toward him fucking off after that's the only thing he has done. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you and GB are probably two town fighting.
JayB, that case on HF is bad.....as was your list of quote case earlier....
Also, we should probably get some consensus on the analysis soon.
I was thinking about it a bit: 1) the cat sounds like foolishness.
2) still don't know if the cat does what it says
3) does the cat just make a case on someone based on the content in the thread or does it get additional information?
I think in 1 of our 2 cycles we might want to potentially use it on a complete lurker to see if the cat get's additional information outside of posts. Because if it doesn't....it doesn't exactly seem extremely useful outside of just being another person with an unknown objective. i agree to test this cat we should use it on a lurker to see if it gives additional info. I think atm risk.nuke is the primary lurker so ##Analyze risk.nuke You must of missed this. Using this on a lurker (if you do plan to use it) would be a waste. On November 01 2014 00:02 Mr. Bigglesworth wrote:
To clarify things:
I am a player from outside the game. I was summoned by a townie who I must keep in secret.
I'll analyse a player as any player would. This means I will read the thread, focus on that player's posts, and say what I think about him, i.e., make a case.
Talking about me will lead nowhere. I am town aligned but I'm not a killable player. Which means you will gain nothing trying to know who I am or if I am town, mafia or 3rd party, for I'm none.
This is my last post until the first analysis. Meow. Why do you trust and believe the cat before it has even done anything? Cuz no one has ever lied in a mafia game right? And how is it a waste? How do you know the cat doesn't have more information? If you use it on a lurker with nearly no content and the cat comes back with something more; it potentially has more info, if it says idk, then it is basically useless since it just distributes an opinion from a source who's motive we don't know. I don't see how that is a useless proposition in the slightest. The fact that you have 0 skepticism over this shit doesn't reflect a townie mindset. Rofl How about you go read what my opinion about the cat is. Also Liancourt made his decision to pick a lurker from what i saw as a false assumption that the cat had knowledge independent of the thread based on him not reading well or misinterpreting what the cat said. So I pointed out his mistake. Again read what my actually opinion is about the cat your whole tirade is irrelevant.
i don't think your previously stated opinion matters in this case. you just quoted the cat and bolded it like it was fact to refute someone's reasoning. which to me, says you believe it. and if your previous opinion was any different, that just makes it worse. but i mean, we will see this cat analysis since apparently it's going on you w/e the thing posts.
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On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Do you think that only scum gets that role? No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell.
i dunno, maybe it's the former host in me, maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, maybe somethin else; it's just hard for me to imagine that there is 0 unifying themes between mafia members.
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On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me.
Bye.
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On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] +
Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.
why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why?
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On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] +
Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.
why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why? No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town.
i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained.
as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since...
so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated?
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On November 02 2014 07:42 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
i just said his notes aligned with what i'm thinking and my list so no shit i'd defend him if i think he's towny? That makes him town, I suppose. Scum can't have similar reads to townies, right?
what are you trying to say here?
the guy has similar reads to HF if not the same, he claimed a blue role, used his role, and no1 has cc'd....i mean from HF's perspective seems like a very reasonable reason to town read someone on d1.
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On November 02 2014 07:58 GlowingBear wrote:
GOD I WAS PASSIVE THIS GAME???
WHEN I WAS???
GOD THIS IS GETTING ME PISSED.
going for rq the thread 2x in 24 hrs?
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@GB: Could you please give a read on OWS for me? Tyvm.
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holyflare just mindmelded me LOL
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On November 02 2014 09:12 jrkirby wrote:
Also misder's "lets consolidate out analyse votes" -> analyse cincumstance out of the blue is pretty weird too.
And BH needs to take a stats course.
like....what is your case on misder? i tried to look thru your filter and didn't find anything really organized. and this sentiment is literally a direct sheep of something i said earlier.
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On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut. His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new." When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc) You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange. On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then. Where do you stand on Circumstance? Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me. ##Analyze: JBI kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.
so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim?
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On November 02 2014 10:43 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me.
Bye. what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do. Good job gb is a good lynch then your role doesn't really indicate where it's good or bad really. What I do know is that you've made things harder for town to lynch anyone today because we need 9 votes on 1 person. I would really appreciate flips so we can move the discussion onto someone else tomorrow. What was your motive for making it a majority vote?
are you reading the thread?
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On November 02 2014 10:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 10:39 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:On November 02 2014 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
L, what you think of OWD If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut. His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post. On November 01 2014 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new." When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc) You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange. On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then. Where do you stand on Circumstance? Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me. ##Analyze: JBI kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it. so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim? Part One: Somewhat, but town can be erratic perfectly well. Don't see any major issue with his defense of damdred. Part Two: Yes. At the least, I'd rather lynch someone else today. Since the day is now long enough for risk.nuke to post tomorrow, I want to read a good set of posts from him.
yeah except the part where you didn't answer WHY outside of his claim damdred is town.
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On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.
I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle.
You then say this:
On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.
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On November 02 2014 11:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 10:52 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:49 Lord Tolkien wrote:On November 02 2014 10:39 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:On November 02 2014 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
L, what you think of OWD If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut. His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post. On November 01 2014 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new." When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc) You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange. On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then. Where do you stand on Circumstance? Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me. ##Analyze: JBI kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it. so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim? Part One: Somewhat, but town can be erratic perfectly well. Don't see any major issue with his defense of damdred. Part Two: Yes. At the least, I'd rather lynch someone else today. Since the day is now long enough for risk.nuke to post tomorrow, I want to read a good set of posts from him. yeah except the part where you didn't answer WHY outside of his claim damdred is town. Hard to describe. If you go through his filter, he clearly has a thought process, and is asking town-focused questions. He's got appropriate skepticism.
I don't really buy this. Thank you for a vague, unsubstantiated, unsupported opinion that took you 3 seconds to make up. Scum pile.
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On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi?
Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap.
As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough.
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On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was.
I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me".
And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing?
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On November 02 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 11:53 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:48 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 11:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy. I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me. Hold up. Why is it that my defense of Damdred is bad? The whole issue with Damdred was that a bunch of people went out and proved that he was being scumread for bad reasons, but you think the reasoning was good? Why is it that my defense is bad but you don't mention anything about LT's defense? Instead, you went and scumread him for giving a generic opinion on something else. Idgi? Damdred clearly stated: I have notes, but fuck town I am not giving them out. That was not townie at all, and he was rightly pressured for it. You called him townie despite that, which is BAD. I think your reasoning was bad, and LT saying your filter was reasonable means he agrees that damdred deserved a town read PRIOR to claiming or using his power. Which is something I both cannot understand and cannot get behind. Especially when LT's reason is a "gut read" after 50 pages of content. That's a load of crap. As for why your defense is bad, HF already did that well enough. I never called him town. I said the reasoning was bad. And it was. I interpret "I don't like a damdred lynch" as "hey this guy is at least leaning town for me". And you think explicitly withholding information and reads is a good thing? You are going to lose your mind when you play with someone who doesn't give reads on day 1. I just looked over the HF case and that's bad too. Here's what it boils down to: "Obi doesn't agree with me so he's mafia." It's funny, because I don't even think he's scummy for posting it. He tried to kill me in a different game because I didn't agree with him. It's really annoying to end up dealing with the exact same reasoning and expecting a different outcome.
I disagree. I think his case says the following:
1) damdred had done nothing to the point where he deserved anything more than a gut read leaning town.
2) damdred was doing things that were actively anti-town and deserved pressure.
3) OWS comes swooping in and starts calling damdred town before he has really done anything
4) THEN damdred claims and gives reads
so his issue is that it seems like you were ready to call him town pre-mature, before he had done anything to warrant it. maybe that's where you say the disagreement is; but frankly I am still waiting to see what he had done prior to claiming to deserve it. and not LT's weak BS.
overall i think LT is wayyyyy worse than you. your reasoning is bad reasoning but at least it's reasoning and you stick behind it. LT just grafted onto someone else's point, and when asked for a reason made up some of the weakest shit i have ever read. didn't even feel like he believed what he was typing. would lynch him right now.
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On November 02 2014 12:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hf said that his points on damdred being scum were infallible and I didn't agree with him based on nothing so I'm scum.
Which is wrong because the case on Damdred was provably bad, so it ends up boiling down to "Obi didn't agree with me so he's scum."
So thanks for not actually reading that post I guess.
HF wasn't even the one accusing Damdred for the majority of it. It was GB, who's not reading now?
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Well, we are not in plurality lynch so we need to start getting organized and on someone before we get a shitty no-lynch no-flip.
As of right now my top lynch candidate is Lord Tolkein.
On October 31 2014 12:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Alright.
Holyflare=Starts with an H
Hunter=Starts with an H
ergo, Holyflare is a Hunter.
And I presume my confirm went through only because Hunters were to be labeled scum so...
#Vote Holyflare
Here is him joking with his first post. Make a note of how this is on the first page of his filter and the time and date. He proceeds this way for a vast majority of the phase. Making snarky remarks, offering no insight, commenting on nothing relevant, and doing nothing to find scum. Then he posts this:
On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:
alright, back from long series of cancer inhouses
wheeeeeeee~
I'm tired and actually want to sleep, but I SUPPOSE I should help lead town to victory.
...when I'm not about to pass out.
First,
I really want to analyze JB. But whatever town wants, I guess. I'll consolidate because I'm a conformist and not mafia trying to waste muh votes.
Two,
Misder, I find it very enlightening to see how people reacted to my blatant trolling. Very enlightening indeed. It's how I garner early reads: looking at the wagons that always form on me D1. :D
Plus no one ever lynches me D1, so why should I be concerned.
Three,
Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on.
I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading.
Everyone else are scummerdawgs, or I can't read them based on past experience. Id actually have to, like, put in effort and nitpick their filters.
Four,
as much lulz and hilarity BHs RNG lynch turned out in FFL mini-mafia, I'm not quite ready to take one on yet. At least, not when I've good a semi-decent read on Glowing. Won't vote for what I suspect is a sure mislynch.
Also again, lynching (one of?) the most active player is lelelelel
Five,
Zzzzz, Giving risk.nuke some time to do his IRL shit. But if he dont post D2, we post lynch him then. If we lurker lynch someone, we should totes lynch Monte Seuss lel.
jrkirby: who are you mafia reads? You made it clear that I'm only your vote because you want me to post stuff and not troll.
I'll post moar, but can't promise not trolling on occasion. But in any event, you've given no real stance on possible mafia, instead sheeping onto a silly RNG vote.
I'll be awake sometime before ~12PM EDT to carry town to victoryyyyyyy.
For now,
#Vote Seuss
But i'll consolidate when the time cums
Part 1:
Wants to analyze JB, congratulations you have arrived at the conclusion that nearly half the players in the game had already arrived at much later than them.
Part 2:
Summary: I troll lelelelelelel, no1 lynches me d1.
Answer: We'll see about that shit.
Part 3:
Finally nearly 36 hrs into the game we have the first portion of content available to us. And what is it? After 35 pages of content it is a bunch of unsubstantiated reads. Now personally, I think the case for GB and HF as town had been made and didn't need re-stating; but what the hell is this VE and OBS read? Airballs and no explanation behind them at all. Especially OWS, what had OWS done up to page 35 that had made him town in any way? It is beyond me.
Part 4: Lol BH RNG. Ty for this insight, glad we waited for it.
Part 5: Lynch lurkers guys! Cuz this strategy on day 1 always goes over well with me. But outside of that, it is an easy thing to simply default to and say instead of giving legitimate scum reads.
So essentially he gave us 2 redundant town reads, 2 unexplained town reads, and told us to lynch lurkers; after 36 hrs of play and 35 pages of content. Shows a lack of investment in the thread and he doesn't even try to push his scum reads toward a lynch, just lays them limp in the thread.
On November 01 2014 16:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Hmm, no, I like that new post.
#Unvote Seuss
He then immediately unvotes his lurker 1 lurker lynch who had temporarily stopped lurking and proceeds down the path toward the other lurker.
Then we get to the part that I simply cannot understand. He attempts to explain his town read on OWS and how he agreed with OWS's town read on Damdred BEFORE Damdred had claimed. At least in OWS's case it is his original thought. It is a very bad thought, but I see no reason why LT is latching onto it.
On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut. His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post. Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new." When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc) You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange. On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post
dont think he's posted anything since then. Where do you stand on Circumstance? Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me. ##Analyze: JBI kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.
On November 02 2014 10:39 ritoky wrote:
so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim?
On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:
I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.
In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.
My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.
On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle. You then say this: Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.
His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.
Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.
On November 02 2014 11:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Hard to describe. If you go through his filter, he clearly has a thought process, and is asking town-focused questions.
He's got appropriate skepticism.
On November 02 2014 11:03 ritoky wrote:
I don't really buy this. Thank you for a vague, unsubstantiated, unsupported opinion that took you 3 seconds to make up. Scum pile.
tl;dr: He believes everything in OWS's filter is reasonable including OWS calling Damdred town before Damdred claimed or posted his notes in the thread. I pressure him to see why he believes that is a reasonable thing, and he basically says "gut read". Really 45 pages of content and "gut read". Plus the response is so generic and contrived; it is hard to believe he even believes it.
This guy did nothing to help town or be involved in town for 36 hrs, then he gave crap reads and not even a lot of them; did more nothing, then does this unbelievable air-ball stuff surrounding OWS calling Damdred town for inexplicable reasons. He is scum kill with fire.
##Vote: Lord Tolkien
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