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On November 05 2014 10:00 Damdred wrote:
Sorta like someone who pardoned themself right?
Everyone speculated to a small degree on the nk you only scum read me for it others asked obi and jay to claim I only got scum read
You ignore me actually making two cases to push the game forward and GB townreading me at the end
By "Everyone" you mean you and jaybrundage. If someone else commented on it I missed it.
I don't care that GB read you as town. He's dead, he hasn't seen anything you've done since, he can't comment on how that might or might not have changed his opinion.
I'm not impressed by your cases. You were scum reading GlowingBear most of yesterday but a key point of your jrkirby case was how he tried/failed to get a lynch on GlowingBear going. The whole thing reads like someone who has to BS a term paper under pressure because you go right back to calling GlowingBear scum the rest of the day, which again was pretty much entirely 'this isn't his meta'. Your giant jrkirby case was basically a non-factor up until you tried to swing yesterday's lynch away from LordTolkien onto risk.nuke or jrkirby.
Pretty darn sure you're scum.
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On November 05 2014 10:28 ritoky wrote:
@Seuss could you please give reads/opinion of which of OWS and JayB we should cast into oblivion?
I'm pretty split on Oblivion because I think we might be taking out a Town either way. I read ObiWanShinobi's frustration as genuine and when he hasn't been flipping out he's been decent. I think it's a stretch to say that jaybrundage was half-hearted in his position on LordTolkien day 1, and he's been playing towny.
But because I have to choose one or the other I'm leaning toward the one who defended my top scum read over the one who voted super early for a known scum.
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HolyFlare, I'm curious which particular things in my Damdred case apply to a lot of people, and who those people are.
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I don't see the same value in what Damdred has posted in terms of cases and reads, and I don't write off one person's scumminess just because others have also been scummy, but I'll give you that there wasn't much reason for him to reveal his automatic power as scum.
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On November 05 2014 14:03 Holyflare wrote:
I mean a lot of your case holds more merit if nuke flips town which i honestly have 0% faith in any read on him which makes you look very iffy imo for making the read that people are switching off of mafia onto risk before he's even flipped. Looks like tmi to me.
It's not so much onto risk.nuke specifically as away from LordTolkien (who we know was scum). It's possible risk.nuke is scum but given LordTolkien's preferences as to his alternative that seems less likely than it otherwise might be.
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I don't regret spending the first half of the day pushing my strongest scum read. I've been contemplating HolyFlare's counter-arguments and considering how I might view the game differently if he's right.
One thing that's been on my mind is VisceralEyes' assertion during N1 that he was going to be pushing for Damdred today and not sheeping HolyFlare. Despite that and my rather singular attention to Damdred he hasn't commented on that at all today, preferring to focus on Circumstance. I'm curious as to what drove that change of plans.
I'll be busy most of the day but I'll be back late this afternoon. Later.
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Actually the sheeping thing was just a reference to the context of this post. My primary point of my concern was you dropping and ignoring the subject of Damdred despite my efforts to bring it up. If you were equally good with him vs risk.nuke when you compromised and are still fine with him now, why didn't you ever chime in, talk to me, or otherwise engage a subject that was important to you at the start of the day?
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On November 06 2014 04:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well if you're referring to your posts on the matter yesterday, I simply wasn't around the thread. I was playing Mafia All-Stars early on and then went to bed.
This is the post best described as the apex, the height of my attempt to push a Damdred lynch.
5 minutes later, you posted this:
On November 05 2014 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holyflare what do you think about Circumcision?
Explain please.
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On November 06 2014 04:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holyflare is townreading Damdred, and was with me on risk.nuke. From my perspective, it's pointless trying to get a lynch Holyflare does NOT want, so I was considering alternative lynches that Holyflare MIGHT want. Why is Suess good Holyflare? I'm town, if you think he's town then he's just interrogating another townie. Unless you are mafia and you're enjoying the show...
I have no problem with you asking HolyFlare a question.
I have severe problems with you saying you weren't around when you were, and using HolyFlare as an excuse for ignoring your own top scum read. HolyFlare is not the be all and end all of the game, why is his disagreement enough to dissuade you from even trying?
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On November 06 2014 04:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holyflare is townreading Damdred, and was with me on risk.nuke. From my perspective, it's pointless trying to get a lynch Holyflare does NOT want, so I was considering alternative lynches that Holyflare MIGHT want. Why is Suess good Holyflare? I'm town, if you think he's town then he's just interrogating another townie. Unless you are mafia and you're enjoying the show...
This is what I meant by excuse. You're claiming you didn't say a single word in support of, in relation to, or regarding my attempts to push Damdred simply because you didn't think HolyFlare would be convinced.
There are 11 other people outside of the three of us who might be convinced. Why does HolyFlare matter so much that you won't even lift a finger in support of lynching a scum read just because HolyFlare disagrees?
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jaybrundage didn't give a damn what the "sheep" thought. Why should you? Why are you so concerned about the consequences of opposing the guy who lynched mafia? Why are you suddenly so unconcerned that you're going all-in callling him scum?
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He's already FUBAR'd the thread.
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Fundamentally I don't know why he went apoplectic. Remember that post where he was trying to work amicably with HolyFlare?
On November 05 2014 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holyflare what do you think about Circumcision?
His very next post is where he started going ballistic.
On November 06 2014 02:05 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2014 01:48 Holyflare wrote:One thing that's been on my mind is VisceralEyes' assertion during N1 that he was going to be pushing for Damdred today and not sheeping HolyFlare. This is actually a great point Hi, I'm sorry, this was my fucking lynch? Yeah this was my fucking lynch. You wanted to lynch someone else and I was all "What about risk nuke?" and you're all "Yeeeeah booooyyyy" So no, it's actually not a great point. If you think it's a great point you'r emafia. Was it a great point?
Check his filter if you don't believe me. I fundamentally don't understand what set him off, and the best explanation I can come up with is that he thought he could discredit HolyFlare. I don't see what he thought flipping out would accomplish for Town.
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Tangent:
Is voting for OBLIVION mandatory?
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Paging jaybrundage to the thread. Come in jay.
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I'm going to be heading out for the evening at the end of the hour.
Jay, I'm not inclined to vote Circumstance at this point. If we're going to lynch a lurker I'd rather go after Misder as he's not on track to be modkilled.
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##Send ObiWanShinobi to Oblivion
##vote Misder
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I need to peace out. My recommendation if we want an alternative to risk.nuke is Misder.
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What was the word?
And please in one post explain your power in full Damdred.
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Misder, could you elaborate on your scum reads in light of risk.nuke's flip? You left precious little room for scum in your list of reads.
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