Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2

On October 21 2014 12:27 Holyflare wrote:


Noob

On October 14 2014 13:15 Holyflare wrote:
urgh never playing in a fucking 3p game again it's so shit

On October 21 2014 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
You should /in jat

On October 22 2014 00:01 marvellosity wrote:

I remember reading a post in FF1, I think by Obi but not sure, where he basically said that mafia don't have any particular motivation just to fuck with 3p.

I smiled, because when I'd been outed by a blue (fuck weak doctors) in Liquid City on Day 2, I outed BC as 3p out of spite, based on the fact he survived a hit and I had a 3p read on him and why the fuck not.

In retaliation, he named my entire scumteam, and was summarily ignored by town when they lynched him, and mafia won despite failing to submit several KP.

On October 22 2014 02:51 Holyflare wrote:
3-4am which isn't as bad as the 5-6am one last time :p

On October 22 2014 03:11 Holyflare wrote:


Just secure mafia lynches before bed

On October 23 2014 05:19 batsnacks wrote:


How is this usually resolved?

On October 23 2014 11:25 StorrZerg wrote:
hf can you make several pages of posts so i can read you k thx

On October 23 2014 11:25 StorrZerg wrote:
gb probably town

On October 23 2014 13:08 IAmRobik wrote:
hi. im blue. bye.

On October 23 2014 13:10 IAmRobik wrote:
d amdred and hf are both town this game

On October 23 2014 13:14 IAmRobik wrote:

i cant stay away. too easy to post as town

On October 23 2014 15:50 Holyflare wrote:
That said i think lian is town :p

On October 23 2014 17:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why would i call Slam mafia as mafia?
I can read him and if you can aswell wouldn't me reading "the obvious" incorrectly look bad on me?

On October 23 2014 15:46 DrParnassus wrote:
If slam is town which I think he is, that's indicative of rayn being town as well. I doubt scum would be eager to clear a town slam since so many people have a hard time figuring out slam's alignment.

On October 23 2014 19:57 StorrZerg wrote:



last game hf made 40+ pages of posts. made it pretty easy to get good vibes from him lol

well that and the plays in night phase. can't always get what you want though. you questioning me right away feels much better than our last game.

On October 23 2014 20:03 StorrZerg wrote:


SO hf is mafia



makes read on player that hasn't made one post in the game...

On October 23 2014 20:12 StorrZerg wrote:

@jat what do you think of hf giving a read on a player that hasn't posted.

On October 23 2014 20:15 liancourt wrote:
kelsier had a bg filter sure wasnt town lol

On October 23 2014 20:19 liancourt wrote:
hf typo'd slam for lian totally believable

On October 23 2014 20:23 liancourt wrote:
so you're saying lurkers are scum because they have small filters? confirm/deny?

On October 23 2014 20:26 liancourt wrote:
i thought it was a joke. the ones who didn't well maybe we should look into them.

i can say that i don't know...kush is totally town right now based on well nadda lol

On October 23 2014 20:27 liancourt wrote:
calling questions stupid hmmm i thought we were just making conversation. I don't like you. bye

On October 23 2014 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Stop this discussion about filtersizes. It's boring and unproductive.

JAT what's your read on holyflare? You've been commenting on him a lot..

On October 23 2014 20:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You shouldn't have said the last sentence.
My plan is to figure out you, thrawn and HF. If we are all town this game becomes much easier.

On October 23 2014 20:44 StorrZerg wrote:


Why can't we read him early d1?

On October 23 2014 20:59 StorrZerg wrote:


Why? Cause it is.


What? Could give him something to bitch about and tie up conversation. Idk.

On October 23 2014 21:07 StorrZerg wrote:


So why is what he did town

On October 23 2014 20:30 justanothertownie wrote:

You clearly tried to discredit me with the question. Or what information did you try to gather by asking it exactly?

On October 23 2014 21:32 Damdred wrote:
Good morning just caught up a bit actually have one townread today and one scumlean so far. Cool maybe two scumleans.

On October 23 2014 21:44 liancourt wrote:
does everything have to be about gathering information and scum motivation...really i'm just here to see what reactions you come up with. I'm no good at reading ppl indirectly so I have to converse with them. I don't know about you, but I have to be in the convo to read accurately I can't read what others have and say this and that. So I'm making convo. Do you know why reading indirectly isn't very good? It's because you don't know what alignment the 2 people are. For all we know it could be 2 scum talking to each other acting god knows how. At least if I'm in the convo I know what motivation I have so I can figure out the motivations of my conversationee by seeing their reactions. taadaa first long first

On October 23 2014 21:52 StorrZerg wrote:


how much are you reaching for that read there eah?/?

On October 23 2014 21:54 StorrZerg wrote:
i could make it serious O_o

On October 23 2014 21:59 StorrZerg wrote:


missed this.

sheep read on robik

as for his read on me. its to vague.... to really comment on. so probably scummy for just trying to make a read.

and i see he has yet to give his town read

On October 23 2014 22:04 StorrZerg wrote:


see jat your read on me tunneling lian woulda been cool if i was actually, you know tunneling on lian. Instead your comment is made right after imo a pretty obvious "troll"




Its especially weird because you have been in the latest conversation jat, yet you interpreted this as a serious claim on my behalf.

I think if your town jat, you would have held on to that read, to see what i did, to see if i would tunnel liam. This is all if you are town, and you did think i was starting to tunnel liam.

On October 23 2014 22:05 StorrZerg wrote:


So you like his reads then?

On October 23 2014 22:09 StorrZerg wrote:


O i see. so if i just sheep someone else i get a free town read. kthx

On October 23 2014 22:11 StorrZerg wrote:


you seem more concerned with how people should be reading the game. "criticizing me on my hf read" pushing it in the direction of "see storr, your read was bollucks"

On October 23 2014 22:13 StorrZerg wrote:



my bad you are right. i didnt ask if you town read him.
HEY JAT ARE YOU TOWN READING THE GUY WHO HAS THE SAME READS AS YOU

On October 23 2014 22:16 StorrZerg wrote:


no, i see what you are doing as deflection from hf. since you are not coming to any conclusion to hf. since "nothing he has done isn't alignment indicative" i read this as a cop out.

On October 23 2014 22:17 StorrZerg wrote:


fantastic we can agree on something its a miracle
(though i guess we are not agreeing on it since you have him then "leaning townie" since he got + points)

ops am i assuming to much?

On October 23 2014 22:21 StorrZerg wrote:


why not. its not "really defending hf"
and from your point of view, what you are doing is "pro town"
so as mafia, why wouldn't you "defend a weak ass scum read" to show town that "storr makes up stuff"

your emotion in this post seems to be a bit forced / exaggerated

On October 23 2014 22:25 StorrZerg wrote:



it is relevant. because you don't believe anyone can read hf at this point. which just gives you a reason to not bother with hf.

On October 23 2014 22:26 StorrZerg wrote:


YOU GOTTA BE INSANE MANNNNNN

I said deflecting.
you said "feel the need to defend"

commented on your own comment. are you blind?

On October 23 2014 22:31 StorrZerg wrote:



You said
"If you think I would feel the need to defend my scumbuddy HF this early against a weak ass scumread of yours then you are out of your mind btw"

I commented DIRECTLY to this statement of

"why not. its not "really defending hf" (im implying its deflection not defending)

then you


"Now it is "not really defending hf" earlier you said I was scummy for "deflecting off HF". What is it now Storr?"

what irrelevant bull are you trying to prove with this "deflecting over defending crap"

On October 23 2014 11:23 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm town again. Yay
And game is already weird.

DP, why do you think one of you is mafia?

On October 23 2014 22:37 StorrZerg wrote:


its not really that hard to follow. ill make it pretty it up just for you though.


So i called you out for deflecting off hf.



I respond to this with




since im directly responding to your comment which states the word "defend"

You respond with



So honestly, what are YOU trying to pull

On October 23 2014 22:42 StorrZerg wrote:
what point are you trying to make jat.

I'm clearly calling you out for deflecting off hf, and claiming no one is able to read him at this point in time.
I find those actions scummy.

On October 23 2014 22:44 StorrZerg wrote:
ok im done with you jat

On October 23 2014 22:52 Holyflare wrote:
Um yeh so i said lian but i totally meabt fecal, gz for spamming the thread with 3 pages of arguing about it though

On October 23 2014 23:10 Damdred wrote:
Storr makes a big deal about getting my townread and then totally drops it and doesn't comment on it...

On October 23 2014 23:18 liancourt wrote:
i like how some ppl think i'm comfortable, because i really am comfortable. It's like a fliiping playground here!

On October 23 2014 23:20 StorrZerg wrote:


your 3 comments of reads have been given to you by other people.

you sheeped reads 1 and 2 for leaning scum.

and your town read, is a simple "was doing something" So yes im going to harp on you for putting minimal effort into this game.

Now if you are paying attention to the game, you can't make that statement that he is clearly playing pro-town to me since im calling him scum.

ill put 3 scum atm as jat/damd/hf maybe replace one of them for an inactive

On October 23 2014 23:27 StorrZerg wrote:



Well just went to the docs.

They said I was still me. Guess I'm still town

On October 23 2014 23:39 Damdred wrote:


What do you think from this observation?

On October 23 2014 23:42 StorrZerg wrote:



Or typo? That didn't cross my mind at the time.
Typo does make more sense though.

At the time that joke doesn't fit with your post flow. / thread flow. Felt way to forced. So yeah I scum read you for it.

On October 23 2014 23:42 StorrZerg wrote:



Or typo? That didn't cross my mind at the time.
Typo does make more sense though.

At the time that joke doesn't fit with your post flow. / thread flow. Felt way to forced. So yeah I scum read you for it.

On October 23 2014 23:54 Holyflare wrote:


because your argument was terribly boring to read and pretty much filtered through my mind when reading it

On October 23 2014 23:56 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, I think you need to stop tunneling and do something else. Yeah, it's cool. You have a scum read on storr. We get it. I don't know that I agree right now, but all you're doing is harping on storr and NOTHING else. Can you find other scum? THanks.

On October 23 2014 23:59 Holyflare wrote:


well it seems like more of a "i saw what jat said and ignored it in my mind because in my mind my read was right and it couldnt be a typo" kind of thing rather than a lie like you are saying it most probably is

On October 24 2014 00:03 IAmRobik wrote:

That's nice. You're wrong about me. Cool. Can you give more reads.

YOU'VE DONE NOTHING BUT GIVE READS ON STORR. WE GOT IT AFTER YOUR FIRST 30 POSTS THAT YOU FIND HIM SCUMMY. YOU REITERATING IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IS NOT USEFUL. MOVE ONTO SOME OTHER READS.

Why do you find me scummy? (please don't say "cause you're deflecting off of storr")
Besides me and storr, who else is scummy and why?
Also, do you have any townies? Why do you find those people town?

On October 24 2014 00:12 IAmRobik wrote:

I do remember the read on me now. Your read is incorrect. Basing your mafia read on me based off of one game, where I tried to emulate my town play and do something specific and was unable to execute it because of time constraints is a poor justification for why I'm scum.

What do you not like about my catchup posts? Is it that I combined them all in 3 separate posts instead of just responding to each of the posts that I wanted to respond to individually (like i normally do)? Or do you not like the conclusions that I drew?

Also, I claimed town incessantly that game and did absolutely 0 analysis, which is not what I'm doing this game at all. In fact, I'm pretty sure all I did was claim blue and that was it. (pause) I went back and looked at my filter, and I said that it was easy to post as town as well. It's just how I was feeling when I was drunk at midnightish, when I got home. When I opened my role pm and saw that I wasn't scum, I felt like a weight had been lifted, because when I'm scum I'm very nervous and I am scared to post and (as HF kindly pointed out in the last game I played), constantly check with veteran players on my scum team to see if what I'm posting is coming from a towny mindset.

On October 24 2014 00:17 Holyflare wrote:



you say all this but i don't think you've actually commented on anything he's said at all and seeing as most of his reads are what my reads are I think it's pretty weird that you are ignoring rayn and thrawn and instead attacking his posting style rather than the content themselves

On October 24 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, you've played many games with Rayn. Would you classify him as a player that is more concerned with finding mafia or a player that wants to find town?

From my games with Rayn and previous conversations with him, he insists that finding mafia is the most important thing. While I agree that that's the end goal, I generally approach the game by trying to find townies and then lynch outside of those. But this is Rayn we're talking about, and Rayn doesn't feel that way. SO him saying that is really scummy to me, since he's basically just spouting out stuff that he doesn't even believe to be true

On October 24 2014 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
i don't actually think ^ is true, rayn finds town reads all the time but his lecturing of other players on what to do in the game and his general absence from doing anything productive IS telling, especially as kush's entrance doesn't mean shit unless he actually plays the game

On October 24 2014 00:55 liancourt wrote:


Based on hfs post analyzing my mafai post im inclined to see this guy as town also. And probably whoever made that mafai post lemme check. And hf for analyzing that post...didnt really think anyone would.

On October 24 2014 01:15 IAmRobik wrote:
God, I kinda wanna lynch storr

On October 24 2014 01:16 liancourt wrote:


Dude clearly doesnt give rats ass. Town

On October 24 2014 01:36 StorrZerg wrote:
woo using my own tactic against me? only pushing 1 person! how dare you

ok fair enough then

On October 21 2014 01:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh, this is gon b gud.

Also, I expect to have a better play if I'm town to compensate for some awful plays I have been having.

On October 24 2014 02:28 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT,

I find myself agreeing with you a bit as of late. Can we be friends?

Sincerely,

Rob

PS I already thought you were town, I'm just hoping that you accept me as a townie as well so that I don't have to prove my worth to you indefinitely. I want to be in your circle of trust

On August 23 2014 23:10 IAmRobik wrote:
I find myself agreeing with JAT a lot

On October 24 2014 02:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Oh jeez

What can I say other than, "you play well"

On October 24 2014 04:50 Holyflare wrote:


have you completely dropped robik suspicion then??

On October 24 2014 05:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Ded thredz

Hijole

On October 24 2014 05:48 Fecalfeast wrote:

I do. You're shitposting like mad

On October 24 2014 06:03 IAmRobik wrote:

Why aren't you putting in effort and making reads like you did in the other FF game ?

On October 24 2014 06:13 DrParnassus wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
10. Holyflare
13. raynpelikoneet

That's where I think the mafia are. Deep down in my heart of hearts I want to remove HF from that list but the quality of his scumplay makes it hard to write him off so soon.

On October 24 2014 06:17 DrParnassus wrote:
And no, I can't give any reasons why any of the people in that list are scummy because it's a PoE list. A few things have caught my eye so far but now isn't a useful time to talk about them.



Yeah, just caught up. And no to the request for reasoning, see the beginning of this post.

On October 24 2014 06:22 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT, I just went through lian's filter and you're wrong

He gave wishy washy reads on storr, calling him both scum and town in convoluted ways
He gave a really weak read on HF being town for "analyzing" the mafai post? DAFUQ
Calls Kush town as a joke and then responds to rayn saying that he doesn't see kush as town
Calls slam and bats townie for looking jolly.

I mean, if you consider these reads, yeah, he's totally given reads on 1/2 the players.

Calls kush 'town for now'
Calls fecal town for "not giving a rats ass"
Calls damdred town for being a "man with a plan"
Calls me town for being a "hardcore player" even though he doesn't agree with my reads
Makes it seem like Rayn and GB are his top scum saying "well rayn and gb aren't here"

Like, his posts are terrible.

On October 24 2014 06:28 IAmRobik wrote:

Yeah, I mean. Whatever. I put his filter to "read all" and read about 2/3 of the way through and he had no reads, which is when I went and wrote the top sentence and then he actually started giving the bad reads starting from the slam & bats = town

He has a certain few posts that I think are towny. These posts are, ironically, not game related. I have no good reason to call him town based off of his play though. And he claims to have played before, so calling him new scum is an incorrect assumption. Lastly, just based off of a meta read of the disparity between game 1 and game 2, it leads me to believe that he's more likely to have rolled scum than town. But alas, Pros and cons both ways. Not on my lynch list for today most like.y

On October 24 2014 06:30 IAmRobik wrote:

No. He's fucking mafia. No reason for me to follow up. In fact, I gave my though on GB when I asked damdred if he expected GB to tell the truth. This implies that I think he's mafia and that I don't expect GB to answer truthfully as to who his partners are.

On October 24 2014 06:38 IAmRobik wrote:


From the other Fantasy Football Mafia game.

On October 24 2014 06:39 DrParnassus wrote:

Not right now



1. Alakaslam

His posts are all pretty harmless and some are real attempts to start some kinda of discussion. I know scum slam likes to hide behind an impenetrable wall of wifom and he's not doing that here. He's trying to help.

2. Damdred



I think the bottom response is townie. Storr is questioning him by asking damdred to clarify his town read. Damdred refuses to answer, saying that Storr should be able to figure that out for themselves. I'd expect mafia to be more cooperative than that while under interrogation as they don't want to cause any drama. But Damdred welcomes the drama.

3. liancourt

HF's post about lian was good. I read his posts about preferring direct conversation as genuine. I think there's been some stuff said about his meta though so I'll have to check on that later

4. StorrZerg

I'm with kush in that I initially thought there was something off about him but over time I became unable to focus on his posts and somehow that colored him green in my head. But since then he's posted a lot most of it looks like a real attempt to find mafia.

9. kushm4sta

I think I'm exempt from having to explain this read so I'm not gonna waste time going into it unless ends up as a lynch or something

11. IAmRobik

Everything about the way he's playing reminds me of the town robik that is sometimes so difficult to cooperate with. (Possibly intentionally) shitty opening and confidence in his reads are all town robik things. I don't know if things have changed but I'm pretty sure he hates playing scum and is scared to post as mafia, as he pointed out earlier.

On October 24 2014 06:50 StorrZerg wrote:


Why are you assuming he is a new player

On October 24 2014 06:55 StorrZerg wrote:



do you have any follow up to this besides hmm?

On October 24 2014 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait so lian you are more worried about arguing points you don't actually believe (ie shitting up the thread) than winning?

Are you srs?

On October 24 2014 07:08 Fecalfeast wrote:

You're fake, bro.
Are you calling me scum?

Or as slam would say

attakz me and I defense

On October 24 2014 07:30 Holyflare wrote:
fecal is like super serious this game

On October 24 2014 07:34 Holyflare wrote:
because my typo earlier was about fecal being the jokey one because all games i played with him he was joking around and now it's all serious tone scum hunting shizzle

On October 24 2014 07:24 DrParnassus wrote:
That voting thread makes storr town btw

On October 24 2014 07:39 liancourt wrote:
ff have you won while being mafai?

On October 24 2014 07:43 liancourt wrote:
they waiting for gb rayn elvis to post

On October 24 2014 07:42 StorrZerg wrote:
so when is rayn going to come in and glorify this thread with his ambiance

On October 24 2014 07:51 Alakaslam wrote:
So as you see I am now caught up

Wassup

YAAAH, HEYY DERRR!

Sittin' in my truck

Lookin at a bunch of beans

On October 24 2014 08:07 Fecalfeast wrote:


Yes. I think arguing people for 'fun' rather than arguing to find scum or gain real information is anti-town.

On October 24 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote:

marv isnt going to replace into a game with a 66% chance of getting a scum role. stop it

On October 24 2014 08:10 IAmRobik wrote:

wtf?!?! this read like a scum claim to anyone else given recemt conversation?

On October 24 2014 08:16 Fecalfeast wrote:


I think this, in combination with his fluffy filter, makes him look scummy. He says he loves to argue and debate no matter what yet I don't see one real argument from him this game.

I have nothing more to add to my read on lian, really. If you think he looks towny or non-aligned please tell me why so I can stop shitting up the thread myself?

On October 24 2014 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
There's 0 reason to even post the "im at page 28 and think x, y, z are mafia" if you aren't going to justify it now. It's literally fake contribution as well because it's just super filler until you catch up to page 43 where we are currently at.

On October 24 2014 10:40 DrParnassus wrote:
eh, ff probably isn't mafia after all

On October 24 2014 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wait GB you just said you were going to make a case on lian then you quote 1 post from robik and because he was unsure in one sentence, voted him.


Were you really going to make a case on lian?

On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:


I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while.

On October 24 2014 11:32 GlowingBear wrote:


There's a lot of content on 20 pages HF. I can give reads that nobody gave yet and it will
also help you reading me.

On October 24 2014 11:41 Fecalfeast wrote:


Why did you bother making a read based on the first 20 pages if you were too tired to read the entire game?

Why not spend the energy you have reading the thread so you don't end up even FARTHER behind when you wake up?

It would help everyone much better than what you have been doing since you got off work

On October 24 2014 11:54 GlowingBear wrote:


Best way to play as town right? Acting scummy to get people talking and not actually contributing to the thread.
That's the thing, HF. He isn't bringing his conclusions regarding reactions. Any alignment can do that.

And if he is town, he is playing anti town because he is making us wasting our time talking about him.

On October 24 2014 12:52 IAmRobik wrote:
Controversial read of the game:
GB is town


+ Show Spoiler +

On October 24 2014 13:09 DrParnassus wrote:
I'm feeling a policy lynch unless elvis reveals himself. I've actually lost a game that I could have won if I'd have known the identity of a smurf who ended up being mafia.

hf you know this

On October 24 2014 13:24 Holyflare wrote:


this is his ONLY mafia read (I don't know why anybody hasn't mentioned it before despite calling out lian for having substantially more reads than this) and he uses it to question fecal repeatedly but fecal isn't even in his list of scum reads so in the end of it all no conclusion is actually ever drawn and his whole attack on fecal is based on an unflipped read

On October 24 2014 21:25 GlowingBear wrote:


JAT, I didn't know at the moment, but it could be something new.
Also, it would be a fresh read without any thread influence. If you see someone coming with genuine reads that is pretty similar to yours, it would (i) emphasise the person is scummy and (ii) make plausible that the person who brought similar reads are probably town too.

I understand people prefer updated stuff but I see no harm into giving opinions while catching up.

On October 24 2014 21:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Also, JAT, who are you voting today?

On October 20 2014 10:19 kushm4sta wrote:
i love how i kept promising to do stuff but never did it.

On October 21 2014 09:26 kushm4sta wrote:
LOL rayn the game wasn't impossible. you just got owned. I acted so ridiculously scummy it was hilarious.

On October 24 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:


I think HF is playing kinda oddly this game. He looks like he is misinterpreting people a lot and I don't really see him strong pushing anyone. I was expecting more of his day one.
I mean, he is calling out bad logic but not really pushing anyone.

On October 24 2014 22:38 GlowingBear wrote:


Why do you think lian is town?

On October 24 2014 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
Jat, robik catch up was NOTHING like rayns in the slightest. Also robik wasn't missing 50% of the thread before making an entire case on someone.

Gb, i never called ff's filter genuine ever. He's in my lynch list for Christ's sake you say I'm misinterpreting but then you don't show where at all. Ff's post on lian was uninteresting so i ignored it, like everyone else did. It proved nothing and he maintained scummyness.

On October 24 2014 23:10 Holyflare wrote:


Robik made reads on those pages which changed over time and devloped the more he caught up. Gb's stopped half way through the thread and complained about how nobody looked towny and wanted to make an entire case on a town read without reading the rest of the game at all. Wildy different.

On October 24 2014 23:13 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT,

I don't know HF's alignment, but don't you think there's a difference between doing a catchup on 18 pages and doing the full catchup and posting it within 5-10 posts as opposed to posting on 28pgs and then saying, well i give up for now, but my reads are super duper strong.

I think there's a difference there, but I can also see what you're saying w/r/t HF's jumping on him and not jumping on me for something somewhat kinda similar

On October 24 2014 23:18 IAmRobik wrote:

I don't think he defended me strongly. If I'm remembering correctly, he said that he wasn't focused on me and thought i was townie because I had the same reads as him.

On October 24 2014 23:21 GlowingBear wrote:


Can you break down that read on Rayn a little bit more?

On October 24 2014 23:39 IAmRobik wrote:

There's nothing to break down. Rayn has gotten progressively more annoying to play with. His attitude towards the game has gotten worse. He doesn't try as hard. He thinks he's hot shit and always blames everyone else for everything, even when he's the one instigating or the one not playing or the one who playing poorly. I signed up after I saw that neither he nor obiwan were playing and then I got tarped.

The reason I brought up pg 43 is becauseh e was having his back and forth with HF there and I just got really annoyed reading it. He hasn't done anything all game. He hasn't given reads and then sits there and says that he has. Read his town games from 1yr ago and read his games now. I don't know if he's town or scum, but regardless, his pomposity and his arrogance and his lack of care lead me to believe that I'd rather have him out of the game. There's potential that he's town, but he could very well be scum too.

On October 24 2014 23:46 IAmRobik wrote:

It's not that I don't like him. I think it's more likely that he's mafia than town when he acts like this and doesn't play the game. He's given a plethora of reasons why he can't be active, which is precisely what he did in the pro/am game where he was mafia with his friends slendy.
And yeah, I don't like his play. We lynch people who don't participate all the time. Are you opposed to lynching Rayn off of those same principles because he's Rayn and he used to be a good townie at some point 1 year ago? I have no reason to believe that HF is more town than Rayn, but I do know that HF will at least play the game, and I find playing this game more fun when other people are playing/participating rather than sitting back and playing with their d***s

On October 24 2014 23:58 IAmRobik wrote:

I don't think I played the game you're talking about....As for him showing up/not showing up. He has been around today and he didn't produce dick....so like...i don't know what you're getting at. Were you impressed with his posts today? DO you think he gave any content? Any reads? Anything? As much as you may think HF is mafia, you should be embarrassed and afraid that you're voting with Rayn.

On October 25 2014 00:04 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh god thrawn's filter is also so bad...

On October 25 2014 00:04 IAmRobik wrote:

Cause if I had the option, I'd rather play with the others than Rayn/

On October 25 2014 00:06 IAmRobik wrote:
As for him giving an excuse, I think mafia are way more likely to give an excuse as to their afk'ness than townies. Townies are like "w/e, i'll just get mislynched and the game will go on"...mafia has teammates to worry about.

On October 25 2014 00:10 IAmRobik wrote:

W/e I'm gonna stop arguing about this because it's making me angry at work. I don't know his alignment. I don't know anyone's alignment. Given the choice, I would lynch rayn over the other 3 "inactives"...let's just leave it at that.

On October 25 2014 00:11 IAmRobik wrote:

I completely agree! But some people feel disconnected because they don't know who the townies are so they don't feel as bad because they feel like they're solving the game by themselves.

On October 25 2014 00:45 Holyflare wrote:
We're still lynching kush or batsnacks. I have no idea how people read anything rayn ha said as towny in the slightest. He literally said he won't elaborate on his reads and then said that his reasons were "between the lines" and then ignored everything about super scummy batsnacks and now 4 hours have passed since he said he'd be on the road for a 5 hour posting spree.

On October 25 2014 00:45 Alakaslam wrote:


I told you not to let him lurk!

You are letting him lurk!

voted him

On October 25 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:
I really don't and I'm not gonna make shit up. I have no need to fabricate stuff. I am telling you how I feel about the game. If you want to push for my lynch for not taking a strong stance, that's your prerogative.

I will say this, you can definitely see an evolution of reads from me.

I started off the game with a strong town read on HF, but that has since faded. I also gave a pseudo-strong scum read on GB, and I rescinded that as well as I kept reading and thinking. Even if you disagree with my conclusion regarding GBs insistence on sticking around when he could have gone to sleep, it still shows that I'm thinking about the game. I could have just as easily not said anything and just pushed a lynch on him if I were scum and he were town.

On October 25 2014 00:49 Holyflare wrote:
Also gb has completely failed at reading (hello the thing you're apparently scum reading me for but actually i haven't done) because he thinks i called fecalfeast legitimate because he doesn't read the thread he just reads filters and doesn't see that I'm talking about elvis. Jat you look terrible for sheeping this shit

On October 25 2014 00:51 Holyflare wrote:


3 people have agreed with my read on you, maybe actually more. You then come in when the flavour of the thread is me looking scummy and dump a load of shit about me not mentioning ff despite scum reading 2 other people as well but fail to show why that's scummy when you have done something far worse and mentioned 2 scum reads that you haven't talked about at all ever ever ever. Pot meet kettle. You are dying today.

On October 25 2014 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Explain to me the awful posts so i can prove they aren't awful

On October 25 2014 01:00 IAmRobik wrote:

So like, feel free to assume I'm town because that's the correct assumption to make, but I think that you're drastically overvaluing my role this game. You're saying that knowing I'm town would make the game "so much easier." I don't think that would make the game much easier. Can you tell me what conclusions you would be able to draw from knowing I'm town? Does figuring out my role really influence how you read the game? Like say I die at night? Is the game magically going to be solved because you know my role? Meh

On October 24 2014 07:12 DrParnassus wrote:


This is a really weird thing to say, the implication is that fecalfeast plans on calling lian scummy regardless of what liam does.

ff i'll gladly vote for if that's what you actually want

On October 24 2014 11:04 DrParnassus wrote:


You're off the list, but that's all. There's a few specific things I'm waiting for before I start pushing a case.

On October 25 2014 01:14 Holyflare wrote:


Still very much where I'm at

On October 25 2014 01:58 Holyflare wrote:


He is

On October 25 2014 02:14 IAmRobik wrote:

WRONG.

On October 23 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For the record i can't play too much tonight... or like at all.
I am travelling tomorrow from 4PM gmt +3 -> . I'll then make my bother drive so i will have 5 hours to properly focus on this.

On October 25 2014 02:37 kushm4sta wrote:


maybe if you idiots talked less we would talk more. did you ever think of that? all my time is keeping up with the shitty one liners you are making at each other.

If you expect me to step up today, don't.
Voting batsnacks atm.

On October 25 2014 02:42 kushm4sta wrote:
and i never promised anything this game so dont lie about me gb

On October 24 2014 19:54 kushm4sta wrote:
im not doing nothing. im lurking.

On October 25 2014 03:02 kushm4sta wrote:
explaining d1 reads is dumb.

On October 25 2014 03:05 kushm4sta wrote:
last game i said explaining reads during night phase was dumb. that is completely different.

On October 25 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAt please vote for HF.
Not kush. He is town.
Do yyou know where i stand? If not ask me. Hf is mafia.

On October 25 2014 03:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT where are you?
I need yiu bcz hf and thrawn are mafia.
I am sad..