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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 14:18 GMT
#909
On October 24 2014 23:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 23:13 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT,

I don't know HF's alignment, but don't you think there's a difference between doing a catchup on 18 pages and doing the full catchup and posting it within 5-10 posts as opposed to posting on 28pgs and then saying, well i give up for now, but my reads are super duper strong.

I think there's a difference there, but I can also see what you're saying w/r/t HF's jumping on him and not jumping on me for something somewhat kinda similar

It's not even not jumping on it. He townread you pretty strongly for exactly those posts and defended you against me. Now he is saying GBs catchup that was in fact very very similar is the strangest thing he has seen in a while.
I also fail to see how giving the reads you got until you had to take a break for a while is that scummy.

I don't think he defended me strongly. If I'm remembering correctly, he said that he wasn't focused on me and thought i was townie because I had the same reads as him.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 14:31 GMT
#917
As for the giving reads part as your catchup..I don't think that's scummy at all. I think it's perfectly fine. I'd hope to see an evolution of reads though, which he decided not to do apparently...and I find that shitty. I wrote shitty because I didn't decide when I was writing that sentence if I thought it was scum motivated or town motivated, as I know I'm lazy as fuck as town sometimes and don't want to read what I've missed and just play moving forward, but if I already committed to doing a reread, then I usually finish it.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 14:39 GMT
#923
On October 24 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik, what do you think of FF?

I don't know what to think of him yet. He doesn't seem to have the pop that he had game 1 and I think I commented on his early mention of my name as something I found odd/weird

On October 24 2014 23:20 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 23:17 IAmRobik wrote:
On October 24 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Robik sucks.

Is this a comment on my play in general or my play this game? Or is this a comment on me as a person?


In general.
I find you arrogant, but funny.

I just like to diss you

What does this have to do with me sucking? I haven't been arrogant this game at all. In fact, quite the opposite. You even wanted to lynch me for not being arrogant at some point.

On October 24 2014 23:21 GlowingBear wrote:
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On October 24 2014 23:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Just finished reading pg 43. I'm down to kill rayn. He's playing this game at the brain capacity of an infant and it's really not even fun having him in games anymore. I don't know why he even signs up.

W/R/T the question he asked me...no?


Can you break down that read on Rayn a little bit more?

There's nothing to break down. Rayn has gotten progressively more annoying to play with. His attitude towards the game has gotten worse. He doesn't try as hard. He thinks he's hot shit and always blames everyone else for everything, even when he's the one instigating or the one not playing or the one who playing poorly. I signed up after I saw that neither he nor obiwan were playing and then I got tarped.

The reason I brought up pg 43 is becauseh e was having his back and forth with HF there and I just got really annoyed reading it. He hasn't done anything all game. He hasn't given reads and then sits there and says that he has. Read his town games from 1yr ago and read his games now. I don't know if he's town or scum, but regardless, his pomposity and his arrogance and his lack of care lead me to believe that I'd rather have him out of the game. There's potential that he's town, but he could very well be scum too.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 14:43 GMT
#926
Voting:
Fecal (1) - Storr
JAT (0) - Storr
Lian (1) - Storr, Fecal
HF (3) - Rayn, JAT, GB
Batsnack (1) - HF
Robik (0) - GB
Kush (0) - GB
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 14:46 GMT
#930
On October 24 2014 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 23:39 IAmRobik wrote:

There's nothing to break down. Rayn has gotten progressively more annoying to play with. His attitude towards the game has gotten worse. He doesn't try as hard. He thinks he's hot shit and always blames everyone else for everything, even when he's the one instigating or the one not playing or the one who playing poorly. I signed up after I saw that neither he nor obiwan were playing and then I got tarped.

The reason I brought up pg 43 is becauseh e was having his back and forth with HF there and I just got really annoyed reading it. He hasn't done anything all game. He hasn't given reads and then sits there and says that he has. Read his town games from 1yr ago and read his games now. I don't know if he's town or scum, but regardless, his pomposity and his arrogance and his lack of care lead me to believe that I'd rather have him out of the game. There's potential that he's town, but he could very well be scum too.

I will tell you why this is problematic.

1) You can't compare rayns current towngame to his past games as you said yourself in this very post.
2) You can summarize his new towngame all you want but that does not convince me that he is mafia.
3) I am not voting him just because you want him out of the game because you don't like him.

It's not that I don't like him. I think it's more likely that he's mafia than town when he acts like this and doesn't play the game. He's given a plethora of reasons why he can't be active, which is precisely what he did in the pro/am game where he was mafia with his friends slendy.
And yeah, I don't like his play. We lynch people who don't participate all the time. Are you opposed to lynching Rayn off of those same principles because he's Rayn and he used to be a good townie at some point 1 year ago? I have no reason to believe that HF is more town than Rayn, but I do know that HF will at least play the game, and I find playing this game more fun when other people are playing/participating rather than sitting back and playing with their d***s
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 14:58 GMT
#934
On October 24 2014 23:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 23:46 IAmRobik wrote:
On October 24 2014 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 24 2014 23:39 IAmRobik wrote:

There's nothing to break down. Rayn has gotten progressively more annoying to play with. His attitude towards the game has gotten worse. He doesn't try as hard. He thinks he's hot shit and always blames everyone else for everything, even when he's the one instigating or the one not playing or the one who playing poorly. I signed up after I saw that neither he nor obiwan were playing and then I got tarped.

The reason I brought up pg 43 is becauseh e was having his back and forth with HF there and I just got really annoyed reading it. He hasn't done anything all game. He hasn't given reads and then sits there and says that he has. Read his town games from 1yr ago and read his games now. I don't know if he's town or scum, but regardless, his pomposity and his arrogance and his lack of care lead me to believe that I'd rather have him out of the game. There's potential that he's town, but he could very well be scum too.

I will tell you why this is problematic.

1) You can't compare rayns current towngame to his past games as you said yourself in this very post.
2) You can summarize his new towngame all you want but that does not convince me that he is mafia.
3) I am not voting him just because you want him out of the game because you don't like him.

It's not that I don't like him. I think it's more likely that he's mafia than town when he acts like this and doesn't play the game. He's given a plethora of reasons why he can't be active, which is precisely what he did in the pro/am game where he was mafia with his friends slendy.
And yeah, I don't like his play. We lynch people who don't participate all the time. Are you opposed to lynching Rayn off of those same principles because he's Rayn and he used to be a good townie at some point 1 year ago? I have no reason to believe that HF is more town than Rayn, but I do know that HF will at least play the game, and I find playing this game more fun when other people are playing/participating rather than sitting back and playing with their d***s

Rayn specifically said that he would have time this afternoon/evening which is pretty soon. If he doesn't show up then I will start getting suspicious but you played in fanfic and should know very well how he played there. So the line of reasoning you are showing here is not helping us win this game.

I don't think I played the game you're talking about....As for him showing up/not showing up. He has been around today and he didn't produce dick....so like...i don't know what you're getting at. Were you impressed with his posts today? DO you think he gave any content? Any reads? Anything? As much as you may think HF is mafia, you should be embarrassed and afraid that you're voting with Rayn.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:04 GMT
#937
On October 25 2014 00:00 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2014 23:58 IAmRobik wrote:
On October 24 2014 23:50 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 24 2014 23:46 IAmRobik wrote:
On October 24 2014 23:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 24 2014 23:39 IAmRobik wrote:

There's nothing to break down. Rayn has gotten progressively more annoying to play with. His attitude towards the game has gotten worse. He doesn't try as hard. He thinks he's hot shit and always blames everyone else for everything, even when he's the one instigating or the one not playing or the one who playing poorly. I signed up after I saw that neither he nor obiwan were playing and then I got tarped.

The reason I brought up pg 43 is becauseh e was having his back and forth with HF there and I just got really annoyed reading it. He hasn't done anything all game. He hasn't given reads and then sits there and says that he has. Read his town games from 1yr ago and read his games now. I don't know if he's town or scum, but regardless, his pomposity and his arrogance and his lack of care lead me to believe that I'd rather have him out of the game. There's potential that he's town, but he could very well be scum too.

I will tell you why this is problematic.

1) You can't compare rayns current towngame to his past games as you said yourself in this very post.
2) You can summarize his new towngame all you want but that does not convince me that he is mafia.
3) I am not voting him just because you want him out of the game because you don't like him.

It's not that I don't like him. I think it's more likely that he's mafia than town when he acts like this and doesn't play the game. He's given a plethora of reasons why he can't be active, which is precisely what he did in the pro/am game where he was mafia with his friends slendy.
And yeah, I don't like his play. We lynch people who don't participate all the time. Are you opposed to lynching Rayn off of those same principles because he's Rayn and he used to be a good townie at some point 1 year ago? I have no reason to believe that HF is more town than Rayn, but I do know that HF will at least play the game, and I find playing this game more fun when other people are playing/participating rather than sitting back and playing with their d***s

Rayn specifically said that he would have time this afternoon/evening which is pretty soon. If he doesn't show up then I will start getting suspicious but you played in fanfic and should know very well how he played there. So the line of reasoning you are showing here is not helping us win this game.

I don't think I played the game you're talking about....As for him showing up/not showing up. He has been around today and he didn't produce dick....so like...i don't know what you're getting at. Were you impressed with his posts today? DO you think he gave any content? Any reads? Anything? As much as you may think HF is mafia, you should be embarrassed and afraid that you're voting with Rayn.

Yes, you did. It was the game HF completely fooled you. BHs failure of a game.
No, I am not impressed with his posts but he also posted nothing that I had any problem with so why the hell would I want to lynch him or even be embarassed about voting with him?

Oh. That game. That game he was active as fuck. What are you talking about?
He has posted a couple posts this game, but they've been completely irrelevant and not substantial nor substantiated. I think it's completely plausible that he's mafia and I think voting with him is a huge error because he's probably voting from a mafia mindset
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:04 GMT
#939
On October 24 2014 23:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Here is the problem, Robik: in this game, we have 3 or 4 people lurking (if you believe thrawn is): kush, Elvis, Rayn and thrawn.

Kush promised he was going to blow the thread with towniness, but he didn't . He brought the excuse that he is busy, but he did the same last game he was scum. He also was active. He was only responding when he was cited, which means he is reading the thread but not contributing.

Elvis has 3 posts. In one, he says FF and lian looks bad for terrible, terrible reasons. He also said I and thrawn looks bad and that he was going to tell us why later, but never did.

Rayn came to the thread, said he was busy, pointed out things, threw weird town reads and leader out.

I have nothing memorable from thrawn, which is really bad for him. I have to dive him.

So, between these four , you're trying to lynch Rayn, the only guy that said he was busy. And you're trying to lynch him based mostly on inactivity.

Why not considering the others?

Cause if I had the option, I'd rather play with the others than Rayn/
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:06 GMT
#942
As for him giving an excuse, I think mafia are way more likely to give an excuse as to their afk'ness than townies. Townies are like "w/e, i'll just get mislynched and the game will go on"...mafia has teammates to worry about.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:10 GMT
#946
On October 25 2014 00:06 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 00:04 IAmRobik wrote:
On October 24 2014 23:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Here is the problem, Robik: in this game, we have 3 or 4 people lurking (if you believe thrawn is): kush, Elvis, Rayn and thrawn.

Kush promised he was going to blow the thread with towniness, but he didn't . He brought the excuse that he is busy, but he did the same last game he was scum. He also was active. He was only responding when he was cited, which means he is reading the thread but not contributing.

Elvis has 3 posts. In one, he says FF and lian looks bad for terrible, terrible reasons. He also said I and thrawn looks bad and that he was going to tell us why later, but never did.

Rayn came to the thread, said he was busy, pointed out things, threw weird town reads and leader out.

I have nothing memorable from thrawn, which is really bad for him. I have to dive him.

So, between these four , you're trying to lynch Rayn, the only guy that said he was busy. And you're trying to lynch him based mostly on inactivity.

Why not considering the others?

Cause if I had the option, I'd rather play with the others than Rayn/

That's great for you personally. But asinine as a townie.

W/e I'm gonna stop arguing about this because it's making me angry at work. I don't know his alignment. I don't know anyone's alignment. Given the choice, I would lynch rayn over the other 3 "inactives"...let's just leave it at that.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:11 GMT
#948
On October 25 2014 00:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 00:06 IAmRobik wrote:
As for him giving an excuse, I think mafia are way more likely to give an excuse as to their afk'ness than townies. Townies are like "w/e, i'll just get mislynched and the game will go on"...mafia has teammates to worry about.

Anyone who has this mindset is just an idiot. Townies also have teammates to worry about. More of them.

I completely agree! But some people feel disconnected because they don't know who the townies are so they don't feel as bad because they feel like they're solving the game by themselves.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:12 GMT
#949
On October 25 2014 00:11 GlowingBear wrote:
MY GOD WHY DO YOU REFUSE TO GIVE SCUMREADS?

Because I don't have any/many scumreads?
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:12 GMT
#951
On October 25 2014 00:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 00:06 IAmRobik wrote:
As for him giving an excuse, I think mafia are way more likely to give an excuse as to their afk'ness than townies. Townies are like "w/e, i'll just get mislynched and the game will go on"...mafia has teammates to worry about.


Now, this is WIFOM.

This is not WIFOM. This is my interpretation of a situation. Stop dropping random mafia acronyms to make it seem like you know what you're talking about.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:22 GMT
#955
1. Alakaslam - i cannot read slam. I dont' know what he even plays games
2. Damdred - i thought his entrance was townie, however I don't like that he's just randomly throwing questions around without following up on them. Seems like feigned contribution
3. liancourt - no idea. His game seems very different from the other fant foot mafia game, but he has had some non-game related posts that I found townie
4. StorrZerg replaced by Superbia - town based off of post count. Scum based off of trying to pocket everyone in the fucking game
5. Fecalfeast - no idea
6. batsnacks - lean scum based off of a lack of emotion
7. Elvis! - no idea
8. GlowingBear - getting better but i don't like the lack of effort w/r/t the catchup. He posted his reads up to pg 28, and they were a little bit substantiated even though he didn't go into super depth...plus he called me mafia which is wrong. However he gave up on that. He said he caught up and his catchup was super lackluster and provided little content and his reads didn't seem to have been updated at all through the reread.
9. kushm4sta - good opening posts from what I mentioned before. His list post was super mediocre. Lack of effort is usually scummy of him, but I've mislynched him for it before, so I don't want to make any grandiose claims regarding him
10. Holyflare - had a townie open as well (as damdred). I agreed with some of his early reads. I do think his harping on GB catchup was weird given what JAT said, but I think he's a valuable player regardless and would not want to lynch him on d1 as he will contribute to the game, regardless of his role
12. justanothertownie - townie...just read his name. You're showing a desire to solve the game. THat said, I've heard of that one fantastic game you played. Would not consider lynching as of now
13. raynpelikoneet - see my previous 20 posts
14. DrParnassus - thrawn has been uninspiring but I don't know that he ever really shines. The two games I recall where we were town together, I was able to clear him, however I have had nothing from him this game. It's upsetting. Hopefully he steps up
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:24 GMT
#956
On October 25 2014 00:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, you're saying that you have no scumread after 48 pages of thread.
Lol c'mon.

I don't give a fuck. I don't read for scum. I read for townies.
That's just a general way I play. I am actually really bad at finding scum, but I'm pretty decent at finding townies. In fact, in that BH game, I ended up mislynching a townie at mylo because i thought he was scum, but the list of townies that I had was like 7/8. HF squeaked into it, possibly because of his d1 claim (i don't remember anymore). But I just happened to make a mistake with my 4/6 in my mafia circle.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:25 GMT
#958
On October 25 2014 00:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 00:12 IAmRobik wrote:
On October 25 2014 00:08 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 25 2014 00:06 IAmRobik wrote:
As for him giving an excuse, I think mafia are way more likely to give an excuse as to their afk'ness than townies. Townies are like "w/e, i'll just get mislynched and the game will go on"...mafia has teammates to worry about.


Now, this is WIFOM.

This is not WIFOM. This is my interpretation of a situation. Stop dropping random mafia acronyms to make it seem like you know what you're talking about.


You're saying that mafia is more likely to give excuses than town based on nothing. Your interpretation is WIFOM.
Whatever, you don't want to play the game. You just want to lynch Rayn.

It's not wifom. Learn to read
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:40 GMT
#964
On October 25 2014 00:36 Damdred wrote:
My head hurts but good morning,

question to robik what have I asked or said and not followed up on

I don't know. I went through your filter and maybe there's nothing that you didn't erally follow up on. I just didn't know where you were going with most of your questions and in most scnearios, I personally would like to read "hey what do you think of so and so" person answers "oh ok, i asked because I was thinking this and that and I wanted to see if our reads were aligning"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:41 GMT
#965
On October 25 2014 00:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Robiks list is disappointing. Nothing really bad about it but there isn't a single hard stance in there. I mean yeah, you said you don't have strong scumreads and are hunting for town but there isn't even a strong townread in there. Every read has some kind of caveat.

you're right. Everyone this game has been playing very middle of the road and there's no one who I'm agreeing with wholeheartedly who I feel is approaching this game from a pure perspective. Everyone has that sort of thing that I could possibly lynch them for.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:48 GMT
#971
I really don't and I'm not gonna make shit up. I have no need to fabricate stuff. I am telling you how I feel about the game. If you want to push for my lynch for not taking a strong stance, that's your prerogative.

I will say this, you can definitely see an evolution of reads from me.

I started off the game with a strong town read on HF, but that has since faded. I also gave a pseudo-strong scum read on GB, and I rescinded that as well as I kept reading and thinking. Even if you disagree with my conclusion regarding GBs insistence on sticking around when he could have gone to sleep, it still shows that I'm thinking about the game. I could have just as easily not said anything and just pushed a lynch on him if I were scum and he were town.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
October 24 2014 15:49 GMT
#974
batsnacks, i don't understand why you haven't given reads this game. Please start playing the game
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