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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 01:05 GMT
#1709
On October 26 2014 10:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:57 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.


You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1.

Reading comprehension = non existent.
I didn't say anything like that.


I'm talking about taking the initiative in lynching (a team mate).
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 01:14 GMT
#1713
On October 26 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 10:05 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 10:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:57 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.


You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1.

Reading comprehension = non existent.
I didn't say anything like that.


I'm talking about taking the initiative in lynching (a team mate).

Yeah, and I am telling you that I didn't say anything like that. Of course that is possible. But nobody goes into day1 with the plan "we are bussing today". They might bus. They might even actively bus. But they don't really want to bus.
And all of that is besides the point anyways. Like I already said EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS A BUS YOU STILL ANALYSE THE LYNCH.


I read that the meta used to be to do this every single game. But whatever. I've given my thoughts on the lynch before. I didn't draw any direct conclusions from it at this point in time. That's it. If you have any more questions, shoot, I'm going to sleep soon.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 01:21 GMT
#1716
On October 26 2014 10:17 justanothertownie wrote:
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On October 26 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 10:05 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 10:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:57 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
[quote]

Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.


You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1.

Reading comprehension = non existent.
I didn't say anything like that.


I'm talking about taking the initiative in lynching (a team mate).

Yeah, and I am telling you that I didn't say anything like that. Of course that is possible. But nobody goes into day1 with the plan "we are bussing today". They might bus. They might even actively bus. But they don't really want to bus.
And all of that is besides the point anyways. Like I already said EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS A BUS YOU STILL ANALYSE THE LYNCH.


I read that the meta used to be to do this every single game.
But whatever. I've given my thoughts on the lynch before. I didn't draw any direct conclusions from it at this point in time. That's it. If you have any more questions, shoot, I'm going to sleep soon.

Where did you read that bullshit? And yeah I will soon go to bed too.


Can't remember. I think it was a guide on a mafia wiki.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 26 2014 01:27 GMT
#1721
I will go now. Kinda like JAT more now, felt pretty genuine, though a bit frustrating.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:24 GMT
#2121
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:27 GMT
#2127
On October 27 2014 11:25 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.

You have a deathwish, don't you? Did you not say you were feeling better about be after giving me a townlean yesterday? Now I am your top scum suspect suddenly?


Don't take it personal bro, PoE. Also I've seen your scum game and it's pretty good (i.e. no idea how to read you). So ya, I'd probably prefer to kill you here.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:28 GMT
#2130
On October 27 2014 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.


No way this guy is town.
Good night.


Weren't you trying to cover my ass yesterday?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:30 GMT
#2134
On October 27 2014 11:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.


OK so you're taking every blue claim in a game of scum desperation at face value?

This list is actually out of left field to me. Your list post has all of these people as town/townleaning.

You just made a list that is the EXACT opposite of your other list.


Everyone outside of that list claimed un-cced blue or is confirmed town due to blue claims. You realize that, right? The only problem is with damd/robik, one of which is flipping EoD. So yeah, no one on my scumlist is currently lynchable,
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:31 GMT
#2135
On October 27 2014 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 11:28 Superbia wrote:
On October 27 2014 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.


No way this guy is town.
Good night.


Weren't you trying to cover my ass yesterday?


After this post of yours, I'm sure you're mafia. For this single post.


Why did you defend me yesterday but now you completely switch around?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:38 GMT
#2139
On October 27 2014 11:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 11:31 Superbia wrote:
On October 27 2014 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2014 11:28 Superbia wrote:
On October 27 2014 11:26 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.


No way this guy is town.
Good night.


Weren't you trying to cover my ass yesterday?


After this post of yours, I'm sure you're mafia. For this single post.


Why did you defend me yesterday but now you completely switch around?

Maybe it is because you are scumming it up hardcore.


Really? Care to explain why? Like I don't give a flying fuck about any of my reads on damd, HF or whatever. They claimed blue and it's un-cced, which means they live through today and tomorrow (possibly excepting damd). People wanting to lynch damd are not thinking correctly. Normally you have to lynch to figure out who the real claim is, agreed. But the mod is kindly doing that for us, so we lynch someone else and: 1. not risk lynching possible cop, 2. possibly win game outright, 3. get more information regardless. Is my logic fucking wrong here???
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:42 GMT
#2143
Why risk it when his alignment gets CONFIRMED tomorrow!? We are in such a good fucking position. There is 0 reason to even take the slightest risk here.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:45 GMT
#2149
I'd prefer to keep my 100% never misslynched record, ty.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:46 GMT
#2151
Sorry for stealing your "every mafia player should be thinking this way" logic GB.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:49 GMT
#2156
On October 27 2014 11:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 11:24 Superbia wrote:
Easiest game of my life. Knew replacing into this game was a good idea. :D All my scum reads pointed to either blue or red (excepting lian) #mlg.

We shouldn't lynch Damdred today, it's fucking dumb. Robik is going to flip EoD anyway, so if damd is scum he's dead for sure tomorrow. Like I feel he's prob scum here but lynching the cop would be one step towards grasping defeat from the jaws of victory. Just lynch outside of the circle of blues (+lian) today.

Lynch today should be in the list of:
justanothertownie
marvellosity
GlowingBear
kushm4sta
Fecalfeast
Superbia

In that order (imo). I haven't really been invested in the game so I wouldn't be too mad about dying here. I'd prefer to be alive to witness victory though.


Even if this list is genuine, how in the FUCK do you justify killing JaT ('scary scumplay' but actively trying to help town constantly) over marv or GB?

Seriously put some thought into your posts or they look retarded.


I had a pretty decent townread on Elvis! d1 and it's transferring to today. Also had GB as pretty town yesterday. Prefer to kill JaT because he's basically my weakest town out of all of those.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:55 GMT
#2167
Wait damd are you hard claiming scum right here? How have you been dealt the worst hand?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 02:56 GMT
#2168
Like if you're cop you're getting confirmed tonight. How is this bad?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 03:13 GMT
#2176
Lian is confirmed town unless robik flips blue EoD, so no-lynch for today.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 03:17 GMT
#2179
On October 27 2014 12:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 12:13 Superbia wrote:
Lian is confirmed town unless robik flips blue EoD, so no-lynch for today.

framer


Vigi shoots before framer.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 03:18 GMT
#2180
On October 27 2014 12:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2014 12:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 27 2014 12:13 Superbia wrote:
Lian is confirmed town unless robik flips blue EoD, so no-lynch for today.

framer

+godfather


Yeah, all right. That's possible.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 27 2014 03:19 GMT
#2182
Actually godfather being present makes a lot of sense if we actually have the unholy PR trio.
Minimal effort.
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