On October 15 2014 01:40 Palmar wrote:
well my top town suggested I should pick you marv.

Do you think that's a good idea? I'm honestly tempted to just yolopick me, marv, lian for posting more than other people.

Terrible idea. I want a handy excuse to reject your group.

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 17:44 GMT

#110

... that sounds very stupid.

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 17:57 GMT

#112

The reason it's very stupid (I'm in a helpful mood) is that having everyone as part of the team at some stage is not helpful in any way to having an optimal group of townies.

The reason people should want to be in a group is not because "oh look at me, i'm important and in a group and i'm part of the game", but because you're 100% sure of your own alignment so you only have 2 other alignments to get right, not 3. i.e. your chances of fucking up are slimmer by a considerable margin.

Of course in the end townies will have to vote to pass groups that they're not in, but that isn't helped by putting random people in groups, that's helped by consensus and to an extent a leap of faith.

In the specific context of this game, I like lian, Palmar likes lian, I think lian is townie. As it stands I'd want him chosen in any group proposed, and it would basically just be bad play for him not to be chosen. I'd like to say the same about me but people are generally warier of me. But I'll wear y'all down.

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 18:03 GMT

#114

see above

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 18:03 GMT

#115

batsnacks, everyone votes on every group

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 18:14 GMT

#118

It doesn't matter. If lian is townie, we want him in the group.

From what i remember skimming through the other resistance games (not recently i might admit), voting was used later on when seeing what groups were successful/failed and extrapolating from there.

You're not going to learn anything from people nayvoting groups which doesn't have their strongest townreads in them. Any sensible townie (and ergo mafia) will be nayvoting groups which don't have their townreads in them.

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 20:31 GMT

#123

On October 15 2014 03:20 batsnacks wrote:
Okay @marvelousity I understand what you're saying. Do you understand why I thought my idea would be good?

Let's say that I understand that your idea isn't as mafia-oriented as it superficially appeared :p

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 21:22 GMT

#133

##Vote: Nay

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 21:53 GMT

#141

On October 15 2014 06:46 batsnacks wrote:

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I think Palmar either town reads or is trying to town read marv. I think marv does not town read palmar.

Anyone who played with me a bit knows I'm kinda control freaky (as either alignment tbf)

I don't see any benefit to yaying this time round when, if I wanted, I could propose the exact same team on my go next, if I so chose.

Kelsier hasn't posted yet, and right at the start of the game I don't see why we wouldn't give ourselves a bit more time.

#avoidingsayingtoomuchaboutPalmar

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 21:56 GMT

#143

roughly speaking:

marv

lian

bat

bh-palmar

oats

kelsier

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 22:01 GMT

#144

kelsier is just there as default tbf.

he's killing town if he's town.

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 23:09 GMT

#146

You tell me.

Or are you looking for my BH-specific expertise (which, admittedly, is vast)

marvellosity

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October 14 2014 23:17 GMT

#148

well I don't think you answered him on what your reads are on me/Palmar either, really.

I've not really seen anything from BH that particularly tips me either way, question answering/non-answering included