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On October 13 2014 07:43 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:39 ketchup wrote:On October 13 2014 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Talk of modkilling stops here. It is extremely unproductive. MB is not going to be modkilled. We are going to talk about which scum we are going to lynch today.
I feel a lot better about my vote on Jeff right now---I didn't really consider his taunting me earlier particularly scummy because that's a tactic I've only ever see more experienced scum use but I feel it's possible. The fact that he's leaving his explanations/defenses until right at the end of the day to force a scramble for majority is pretty anti-town as well. He has also shown he doesn't give any fucks about this game at all so I can think of no good reason to keep him around, even if he is town.
Would you want Jeff in a 3-man LYLO?
Vote accordingly, people. You aren't a mod, stop trying to dictate how this game goes. Until a mod comes out and tells me this isn't allowed, I will definitely keep posting about it. The mod kill discussion was 100% legit because of this random ass move to jump on the ghandieagle bandwagon started by you, and followed by Tolkien. On October 13 2014 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
I've been busy zzz. Just because I write like Bill Gross doesn't make me scum. Focus on the people trying to be disruptive instead. Read into what people are doing and not people write on D1 imo since there's so little to read into anyway. You guys are getting so twitchy about each shadow in the forest as if there are ghosts as you drive through and ignoring the wolf howls right outside.
##Vote: GhandiEAGLE This moonbear jump on ghandieagle bandwagon is hilarious. ##Vote: MoonBear This is what makes me vote Wave. The manipulation stops here. Even if he's town, I don't want him to dictate the flow of everything. Don't be caught in a situation where he can turn the town against you with his words.
LOL
Are you fucking serious right now?
Do you honestly think I have had any reason at all to attempt to turn the town against ketchup?
I am so incredulous with this. I'd also love to explain to you why you're throwing your vote away and making it easier for scum but RAWRR FIGHT THE POWER I guess so you won't listen I assume.
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The paranoia is driving me fucking batty.
Please someone who's not me explain to these jubs why they're wrong.
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On October 13 2014 07:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
I kind of want to lynch ketchup for continuing to instigate the whole "o my god don't listen to them they're vets, MANIPULATION" line of thought.
Nah he's pretty town. That would be INSANELY ballsy of him.
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On October 13 2014 07:48 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Ok I've caught up.
I want to address first the "gives no fucks" part that Wave really wants to label me with. it's bullshit, I didn't expect how seriously Wave was planning on taking the game, so I started with some innocent poking at him, but just because I'm not hounding people as rabidly as he is does not mean that I dont give any fucks about the game. That's ridiculous and represents a lot of the hyperbole Wave has been throwing around.
Secondly, I stopped talking for awhile because it seemed like everything I said was hurting myself (which it probably was). I didn't want to cause more damage, and i legit didn't feel like I had a productive line of reasoning to add for awhile. I haven't been lurking, I just wasn't here at all since I was otherwise occupied. I have literally no agenda in this game from the posts I've made, so every "this sounds scummy" read is just empty ammunition. I think it shows a lot of how little conjecture you can actually make considering most people here haven't played before, and don't have a specific mindset going into the game.
I'm a simple vanilla town minding to my own crops.
Also, since beyond that I haven't said much of real value, I've come to agree with Ketchup that Wave is more or less throwing his weight around in a scummy fashion. I was being serious when I pushed for Wave earlier, but that didn't gain any traction so I wanted to see how people would react if I started voting for Cixah and getting people to move, which like I said earlier clearly backfired.
I later switched to Moonbear not to create reactions but because all of his answers either dodged the question through long text or actually raised more questions for me. Considering he has retreated after realizing the community opinion was swinging against him, I felt pretty confident in at least putting him on trial. I made sure to cast my vote early-ish in order to make sure that I had a vote by the time it ended, in case I wasn't able to show up for the end. That said, if MB doesnt show up then we should absolutely lynch him. You're crazy if you legit think that MB is going to be banned day 1, this is TLOT Mafia. Therefore, risking a dumb-ass town doublekill seems like a risk that, it being day 1, is fucking stupid to take.
I want to vote for Wave but no others do, so I'm sticking with whatever gut I have and going moonbear.
I also think a lot of the criticism towards Asmo is unfounded, I don't think hes totally guilty yet. You're trying to read too deeply into what he says, much like what certain people are trying to do with me.
Eh tu, Jefferino?
Whatever I'm going to let the scrubs scrub it up then.
Interesting that we have a fair amount of pushback onto MB now.
Today is too fucking hard.
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On October 13 2014 07:50 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 07:44 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 07:43 Requizen wrote:On October 13 2014 07:39 ketchup wrote:On October 13 2014 07:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Talk of modkilling stops here. It is extremely unproductive. MB is not going to be modkilled. We are going to talk about which scum we are going to lynch today.
I feel a lot better about my vote on Jeff right now---I didn't really consider his taunting me earlier particularly scummy because that's a tactic I've only ever see more experienced scum use but I feel it's possible. The fact that he's leaving his explanations/defenses until right at the end of the day to force a scramble for majority is pretty anti-town as well. He has also shown he doesn't give any fucks about this game at all so I can think of no good reason to keep him around, even if he is town.
Would you want Jeff in a 3-man LYLO?
Vote accordingly, people. You aren't a mod, stop trying to dictate how this game goes. Until a mod comes out and tells me this isn't allowed, I will definitely keep posting about it. The mod kill discussion was 100% legit because of this random ass move to jump on the ghandieagle bandwagon started by you, and followed by Tolkien. On October 13 2014 07:34 MoonBear wrote:
I've been busy zzz. Just because I write like Bill Gross doesn't make me scum. Focus on the people trying to be disruptive instead. Read into what people are doing and not people write on D1 imo since there's so little to read into anyway. You guys are getting so twitchy about each shadow in the forest as if there are ghosts as you drive through and ignoring the wolf howls right outside.
##Vote: GhandiEAGLE This moonbear jump on ghandieagle bandwagon is hilarious. ##Vote: MoonBear This is what makes me vote Wave. The manipulation stops here. Even if he's town, I don't want him to dictate the flow of everything. Don't be caught in a situation where he can turn the town against you with his words. LOL Are you fucking serious right now? Do you honestly think I have had any reason at all to attempt to turn the town against ketchup? I am so incredulous with this. I'd also love to explain to you why you're throwing your vote away and making it easier for scum but RAWRR FIGHT THE POWER I guess so you won't listen I assume. Doesn't matter about ketchup. You're not playing the Town game, you're playing the "Wave knows better than everyone and you should listen to him" game.I'd rather "waste" my vote than jump on someone I don't believe in. And your push to get a single vote off of you when you're in no danger of getting lynched is really desperate imo.
This is fair a point, but the constant cries of me controlling and manipulating everyone is starting to get to me. I'm trying to ensure a scum lynch and I get people whining at me that I'm not letting them herp and derp when I'd like to, you know, win the game for town.
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Alright let's see what happens.
##unvote
##vote:moonbear
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I don't feel particularly good about this. First time scum being aggressive and adamantly anti-thread sentiment?
Anyone for shenannies?
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Like why is it so quiet with 30min to go?
This looks like scum is fairly content with how things are going.
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I know that, but I just don't think scum.
Once again I ask, ladies and gents, shenannies?
##unvote
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On October 13 2014 08:37 jcarlsoniv wrote:
nah man, I'm comfortable leaving my vote where it is.
There was a wagon on LT, given momentum by you. There was a subsequent re-wagon on Jeff. Wanna know who gave that one momentum? You. *gasp*
If the Bear bleeds like I think he will, I'm comin' for ya buddy
Yeah, I bet you're happy with your vote where it is, after fucking off and doing nothing all day.
Let's go people. Votes off Jeff and MB.
It's ASMO TIME
##Vote: AsmodeusIX
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On October 13 2014 08:40 ketchup wrote:
It may be odd, but I won't move my vote. I don't feel comfortable letting moonbear go with his low amount of content/posting. He hasn't shown to be helpful. So either he's unhelpful town who is playing badly, or he is scum who is playing badly. Either way, it's one less obstacle that stands in the way of town solving the game.
This was my logic on Jeff and you pushed against it like crazy.
Do you see what Soniv just said? He knows MB will flip green (and I have a suspicion it will be more than that) and is still comfortable with it, WITHOUT offering reasons like you just did. He sat back all day while we were trying to figure things out and let the wagons progress like they did.
I think soniv could actually be scum but I doubt we get the numbers to do him today.
Right now I feel ok about Asmo, more so than MB.
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Nobody is around.
Fucking hell guys
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On October 13 2014 08:44 jcarlsoniv wrote:
(PS - I think MB will flip red)
Horseshit you do.
If he flips red you can come after me all you want, but that's not happening. I think he flips blue, and that's what i hinted at earlier.
On October 11 2014 12:07 MoonBear wrote:
Hm if we don't vote to lynch someone Day 1 we end up in Day 2 where the Scum get a free kill in exchange for information that the cop people can get. However, how do the cop people communicate their findings to us? And how would we tell if the cop is a real cop or just someone pretending to be them?
On October 12 2014 05:19 MoonBear wrote:
Right but does that mean we don't really know what roles are actually in the game? So for example is it possible that, say, we have no Medic?
If he does, your ass is grass.
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On October 13 2014 08:47 ketchup wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 08:43 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 13 2014 08:40 ketchup wrote:
It may be odd, but I won't move my vote. I don't feel comfortable letting moonbear go with his low amount of content/posting. He hasn't shown to be helpful. So either he's unhelpful town who is playing badly, or he is scum who is playing badly. Either way, it's one less obstacle that stands in the way of town solving the game. This was my logic on Jeff and you pushed against it like crazy. Do you see what Soniv just said? He knows MB will flip green (and I have a suspicion it will be more than that) and is still comfortable with it, WITHOUT offering reasons like you just did. He sat back all day while we were trying to figure things out and let the wagons progress like they did. I think soniv could actually be scum but I doubt we get the numbers to do him today. Right now I feel ok about Asmo, more so than MB. I agree that I don't like soniv's interaction this last day. I also didn't like his interaction earlier when the mod kill topic came up. Then again, you were very against discussing it too, so it's not like everyone is going to agree with each other over everything.
But that's the point exactly.
He DIDN'T interact today.
Wagon sat on MB/LT for most of the day and he';s perfectly content with that...why contribute if it's town/town?
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On October 13 2014 08:49 ketchup wrote:
Still a vote on moonbear is better than removing votes from him this late into the day. I think removing votes from anyone this late helps scum more than it helps town.
Not if people are around and can agree to switch. It's been done numerous times and it really fucks with scum last minute.
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On October 13 2014 08:50 ketchup wrote:
Do you really think town can swing a vote faster than scum can? Do you really want to see moonbear do this again for day 2?
Well at the very least he won't have the excuse on D2 that 'we can't have any useful discussion.'
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Ketchup how about this: you can dictate the switch target if you don't trust me.
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Nah we don't have enough activity.
Well then I hope you guys are right because in a setup like this mislynches really hurt.
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On October 13 2014 08:54 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I've seen last minute switches go very poorly more times than not. I've never been a fan of them.
I lost my only scumgame due to a last minute switch.
Should have jumped on the bandwagon but I tried to protect my afk teammate foolishly.
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On October 13 2014 08:55 ketchup wrote:
If he's blue, it sucks but he played badly, and nothing he did helped us. Considering he hasn't come out as blue yet and there are less than 30 minutes left, I think he is not blue.
Or he has no idea you're supposed to claim.
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