On October 17 2014 04:17 Alaric wrote:
Caveat: my read on Req relies primarily on that I used to think him 100% unable to put us on strings. I'm more paranoid now that I think someone is making bold lies (and potentially being real good at it) so I dropped the 100%.

Man I want to say something about this but it would end up as a pretty scummy post.

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October 16 2014 19:38 GMT

#1884

On October 17 2014 04:36 Alaric wrote:

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Fuck you.
Now Imma read the rest of your post.

And don't take it personally Req, it's been the same for everyone ('cept ketchup at the time, RIP), you just stick out because I was so damn sure of you.
Unless you dislike my thinking you ain't no born mastermind?

No, it's just... agh

Alright, this is going to sound like mind games, but I was just going to say that I really do wish I was handed a Mafia role because I consider myself pretty good and lying/deception when I have to be. But now I'll never get a chance to show it off.

And with that statement, everyone begins suspecting Req.

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October 16 2014 19:52 GMT

#1893

On October 17 2014 04:42 Alzadar wrote:

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Now look who's talking.

Also Req wtf why would we not play another game after this one?

Other people can, I probably won't participate.

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October 16 2014 22:07 GMT

#1907

On October 17 2014 06:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:
I wouldn't mind a few more opinions on my check tonight

I could get behind an OWB check. He isn't as lurky as some, but every time I read his posts his highly inoffensive nature just makes me think there's something he's hiding. Like, when he's around he participates, but never in a way that jumps out... and it's good hiding.

I wouldn't start the bandwagon if no one else is feeling the same way, but I could agree to jump on one.

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October 16 2014 22:32 GMT

#1911

On October 17 2014 07:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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No, you're right. But I still have to try.

How selfless and noble of you.

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October 17 2014 03:41 GMT

#1945

On October 17 2014 11:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Wave always willing to distance himself from being scum in his posts.

Don't think I'm not noticing that.

Ghandi, everyone is distancing themselves from being scum.

Wave, you'll be happy to hear that OWB being scum lessens my view on you based on his interactions with your and your individual reads. Not to the point of confirmed town, but it did pique my interest when I read the two of you talking.

Also Alzadar's claim is sketchy as butts to me right now. I don't know, I just feel like the likelyhood of near-lynching two blues in a row seems small. And when the only one left standing can't prove himself in any way, I don't really know if I would trust him as far as I could throw him. Soniv turned out to be true, but he gave something close to evidence that he was "leaking" his role to observant readers, so I was more willing to accept it.

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October 17 2014 16:36 GMT

#1962

Honestly I don't remember most of what I posted myself at this point. I do remember being mostly ok with Asmo, but I don't think I ever looked into him again that much after Night 1/Early Day 2, so I don't know if that may have changed my opinion on him at all.

OWB, honestly he was just a lurker to me, but once he started posting more, as I said, he sounded less and less town. That's why I wanted Soniv to check him (if he didn't die, that is).

Sorry, work's been a bit nutty since I woke up so I'll follow up on more later. I don't particularly agree with the early Asmo train but I will dutifully go back into his filter and try to find reasons to investigate.

Alz, those are fairly decent breadcrumbs, I can get more behind you now. Which, sadly, means you're likely deady deadertons tonight </3

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United States33802 Posts

October 17 2014 16:46 GMT

#1966

Despite the lack of proof, for some reason I find mordek's claim really easy to swallow. I don't know if that's bad or if other people get the same feeling.

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United States33802 Posts

October 17 2014 17:11 GMT

#1972

On October 18 2014 02:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:

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Corpses can't eat popcorn.

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October 18 2014 13:54 GMT

#1985

Sorry guys work was absolutely psycho bonkers crazy yesterday, and today is getting ready for/attending a friend's party.

I've already given my reasons for this vote and for now I feel comfortable placing it.

##vote WaveOfShadow

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October 18 2014 15:09 GMT

#1988

There's a birthday party for a friend, I'll have my phone and will try to pay as much attention as possible but posting powers will be lowered.

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United States33802 Posts

October 19 2014 00:30 GMT

#2053

Sorry playing card games with people

I knew Asmo wasn't scum, Wave is a martyr, be back later (probs tomorrow)

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October 19 2014 20:27 GMT

#2064

I dunno, if it's between Wave and Ghandi, leaving Wave alive until endgame seems the scariest.

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October 20 2014 14:36 GMT

#2081

I dunno. Blue claims are annoying at this point because if I do doubt them, then that just means our two remaining blues are just either super lazy or have done nothing on purpose. So if I go under the assumption that we do have blues and they have tried to do things/are trying to do something, that really doesn't leave a lot of room to contest Alz/Mordek. If we had a Vig, I think he would have done SOMETHING at this point. If we had a Cop, he either is unlucky as fuck in his read picks or he is just being as quiet as possible about his findings.

So, I have no choice but to trust Alz and Mord because if they are bluffing, they're doing way too good of a job of it and the rest of the town is useless anyway. Which leaves Ghandi, Alaric, and Wave.

FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, games of this size with a 3P should have 3 mafia, so 2/3 of them should be scum. Though I suppose maybe the roles could be throwing us for a loop and it could only be 2 Mafia/1 3P but from what I remember reading earlier in the thread, that's not true.

I made a huge post on why I think the Ghandi/Wave duo is my pick. I don't really have to go over that ground again, but there are a couple points on them that are worth noting.

-Wave has consistently played the martyr card pretty much after every phase. "I'm going to die tonight", "You're just going to lynch me today", etc. If nothing else, it's poor town play. He and others also called martyr play noob play, but he could be using his relative level of experience as a screen to say "This can't be noob play on my part because I know better, so therefore it's not a play and I'm just depressed with the game". Again, Wave has done nothing but deflect and redirect.

-Ghandi got off scott free Day 2. We remember that, right? Everyone was very, very convinced that he was a lynch target and then suddenly the train was off him. Among the people that were on the train and left? Wave and OWB. OWB then went on to revote for Ghandi, but it was far after the train had lost steam and he knew the vote wouldn't go through.

So basically I'm all in on Jeff and Wave. Alaric doesn't read scum to me. He's been playing a much better town than I, and his play doesn't seem to distance or tie him to anyone in particular, rather that he considers everyone threats equally, in a way that feels very town to me.

I mean, I've been wrong in this game before, and I may very well be wrong now. But at this point that's just what I have.

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United States33802 Posts

October 20 2014 14:43 GMT

#2082

Actually, if we mislynch tonight, we lose, right? Lol. This game has been pretty stupid from start to end.

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October 20 2014 15:20 GMT

#2085

I don't know if I could get behind a mordek vote. I said earlier that I didn't have much of a problem swallowing his story. And from the beginning, I thought Alzadar and mordek were very similar in posting styles, so I don't have an issue believing they're both similar roles, and I don't think they're both scum faking.

I have a feeling it's going to come down to Wave or me tonight, so really it's up to the 4 remaining.

##Vote WaveOfShadow

If it's a tie, I die. Which would suck.

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October 20 2014 17:44 GMT

#2088

On October 21 2014 02:42 Alzadar wrote:
Req, there was a time where you said that the only way Jeff was Town was if Soniv and Wave were both scum. We know Soniv wasn't scum. So do you think the last scummers are Ghandhi and Wave (implying a semi-attempted bus from Wave's very first post), or has your opinion of Jeff changed?

If you read my post at the top of this very page, I say that Jeff/Wave is my pick.

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United States33802 Posts

October 20 2014 17:57 GMT

#2090

Only one mafia member needs to die. It can be Ghandi if everyone else wants to swing towards that vote. I just put it on Wave to see if I can get personal vindication from my dogged pursuing.

If/when Wave flips Red, I'm going to eat a celebratory cake. An entire cake.