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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 14 2014 15:15 GMT
#1156
Nice sig lol
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 14 2014 16:54 GMT
#1178
Wave doesn't need defending but when I think about what teamwork would look like it probably means all the newbies in here would actually be putting in the effort that he is... otherwise it looks like he's manipulative.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 14 2014 17:49 GMT
#1183
Man this game just messes with your head. I think town needs to start voting and playing it out from there?
Soniv, I just haven't felt convinced otherwise.
##Vote jcarlsoniv
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 14 2014 18:32 GMT
#1202
I've been suspicious of you Alz but I couldn't find anything and you keep saying what I'm thinking. My notepad at my desk looks just like your list except I have you in fishy/3p category and Req is a wildcard for me right now.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 14 2014 19:24 GMT
#1218
I would be willing to move my vote from soniv to ghandi. Those are both my top picks.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 14 2014 19:31 GMT
#1221
Well you're right so you're lucky too
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 01:35 GMT
#1289
I'm not going to defend myself by saying my town-play is stellar by any stretch of the imagination but to say I hopped on the Ghandi-wagon is laughable. I've been on that train for a looong time and it's not even my current vote lol.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 01:53 GMT
#1291
I'm sure you guys understand the kind of time commitment it takes to come up with genuine posts to contribute. I appreciate what Asmo just put together and all the other posts prior. I recognize I'm not furthering the town's game as much as I could but i'm also trying to keep IRL stuff in perspective. I honestly don't just have an hour to delve into all the little interactions like I should. I'm lurking in the sense that I read almost everything within two hours of it being posted during my waking day but don't have much to add with superficial agree or disagree comments (according to the guide every post should be deliberate and contribute )
Here's what I can add with minimal time, my current spectrum (town -- scum):
Cixah - Alaric - Wave - owb - Req - Alz - Asmo - Coma - Soniv - Ghandi

Cixah - Confirmed Town
Alaric - Posts have consistently been helpful and insightful
Wave - Has provided direction and initiation
owb - solid points here and there but posts are sporadic (in my casual game mindset not that much of a knock)
Req - I think the erratic town description was fitting and sits right with me
Alz - I keep coming to the same conclusions so I'm not sure if scum playing me well or what, props either way
Asmo - Pretty good posts when he shows up, I think his current position in my mind is swayed heavily by Wave's posts
Coma - Honestly coma posts like coma sooo yeah. I can't get a read but lurkerish and I'd rather he not slip through for too long
Soniv - Had a feeling from the beginning and I just haven't been able to shake it :/ sorry bud
Ghandi - He's been called on it and nothing he's said shows me town. It's possible we're tunnel visioned and he's just not getting through to everyone but seems highly unlikely. The simple explanation is usually the correct one.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 01:54 GMT
#1292
fyi it's my bed time I'm nodding off lol
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 13:01 GMT
#1343
On October 15 2014 12:34 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 11:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
One specific section really struck me though and I'd very much like to get opinions on this.

To me, this says that Jeff is sacrificial scum: the scum (read: Soniv) know he's going down eventually, but they're going to try and put off a lynch on him until they get as many lurky town-peeps as possible. Definitely Coma, but I don't know if it ends there. Maybe Soniv rounds back on Alz (but here my reasoning gets less event-based, so let's avoid mere ideas).

This is an entirely new POV and shows that Asmo is attempting to think about connections between scummers. Now some people including myself have pointed out that pre-flip association isn't particularly useful, and often results in confirmation bias leading you and others astray. That however, isn't my main point.

My biggest problem (and it is literally a problem, because I'm not sure I can give a completely unbiased answer to it):
Which alignment posts something like the bolded? Who is thinking about leaving a scum to be sacrificed? Is this something that is going on in the scum QT that Asmo is trying to 'bring to light?' Is he just thinking really critically? I am not trying to lead on any answers here, but I want opinions. I think that section of the post is the key to cracking Asmo one way or another.


This is difficult for me to answer. I really thought asmo was a bit scummy earlier, but his last few posts have been decent. He is actively attempting to look at things in different perspectives, which is nice. The fact that he pointed out soniv might be attempting to get me back on his side by pressuring Req(and I was the only one who wanted people to look at Req), was nice to me. I thought about it as well, but I discarded the information because it seems fairly complex for no real reward. What's the point of pocketing me when I can't save him? I think the scenario he thought up, is basically only possible in extreme circumstances. It's overly complicated, and that's more of a town tell to me than it is a scum tell.

@Wave regarding the bolded
I actually had the same thought as Asmo that this was possibly a distancing technique of some sort since I think anyone that defends Jeff at this point either needs to have some REALLY good points or makes the scummiest looking play yet thits game. I'm still warming up to the game, I feel like man I need to have some original thoughts and then I don't post original thoughts. It's like you don't realize the connections your making consciously enough to think, Oh I should post that. So take that for what you will, hopefully other newbs can relate to that feeling. I didn't get a scum vibe from Asmo's point and I think ketchup makes a good point that the motivation behind posting that is more town than scum.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 17:33 GMT
#1378
Nice, managed to secure the name of a lurker-tier.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 18:03 GMT
#1392
On October 16 2014 02:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Also, Mordek I've noticed you have never really proofed anything. I went through your filter and every other post it seems like you're talking about "a gut feeling" or a "town vibe" from people. You need to have some more original thoughts, because pretty soon you're going to be on the lurker spotlight.

Actually this is really suspicious and I want to get more out of you, because you've done nothing but trying to stay politically correct from the backlines, so consider this a caution vote to get your attention

##Vote: Mordek

Hi Ghandi thanks. It seems you've picked someone else to see if maybe that will get something started since, once again, the pressure's on you. I know I'm town so I'm currently going through to see who thought I was a good scum target as they are most likely scum. I'm kinda curious why you're the first person to press the issue since honestly, my posting looks lurker-scum.

@owb I haven't been able to pick up on any slips so while it's hard to be super confident it's not like I've been politician-y about things. I stuck with my feelings on LT (which iirc where well spoken by alaric in an earlier post D1) and I was wrong. Ok, those things happen. I had a feeling on Soniv but I've repeatedly said him and ghandi were my #1 reads. I could go either way.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 18:16 GMT
#1399
Ok, I've heard you guys. I have never denied my lack of contributions. I'm ok with this attention. I will get back with you.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 18:30 GMT
#1400
Mordek you say you haven't been politician-y, but
On October 12 2014 01:53 mordek wrote:
Ok. I've been trying to re-read and trim my post up so I don't have any distracting details. My main thought is I can't see Wave making that big post which obviously creates a confident and open atmosphere right from the start, absolutely a Town move, and then it's some huge reverse psychology thing. We're going to find out soon if he points us in the wrong direction as the leader.

I don't have great reads on scum, I'm not sure what makes a good read vs. a feeling. So far Swaglord has been contentless, changes the subject, or is just unrelated and doesn't build any conversation. Also owb has not posted yet, do we know if he has a good reason not to?

First thought: I read the guide, it's all about open atmosphere and I recognize you do that, not sure why people like Req and Ketchup are getting on your case.
Second thought: If you lead us to a mislynch as scum you're probably going to get caught for it.
Third thought: I voice my initial concerns with LT and I stick with that the rest of the day. He doesn't convince me otherwise. I hindsight and better understanding of the game, the call to get off moonbear makes sense. Good thing scum shot the guy I wanted to lynch......................................................................
On October 12 2014 05:03 mordek wrote:
Ok I may have posted too hastily. If Cixah is another role that we should be worried about as town, he'd only have one night to do whatever it is because he wouldn't be able to confirm the next day. I can't imagine this being worth the risk over just trying to talk people out of voting for him.

Honestly, I felt the need to prove myself to town. I thought I had valid points. AND THEN I WAS WRONG. So while this may be "politician-y" I made a confident assertion which was adequately refuted and thinking about voiced why my prior read did not make sense. So changing my mind after we get information is being a politician.
On October 13 2014 05:21 mordek wrote:
Look I'm fine if I've made a misread. However in one post I'm almost confirmed town and in your next post my style is newb mafia. You also managed to miss a post that quotes you twice?

This is me trying out the "aha, it looks like a slip-up" post. It doesn't feel consistent to me and this was easy to spot and get my attention because it was directed at me. I like to think this was "original" but no one else cared so I dropped it.
On October 13 2014 05:50 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 05:47 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 13 2014 05:28 mordek wrote:
On October 13 2014 05:06 mordek wrote:
I'm going with my gut. I'm fairly sure Wave is town. I've been uneasy about Tolkien the whole time. We're going to learn a lot after the first day. Prove me wrong to change my vote.

##Vote Lord Tolkien

On October 12 2014 01:53 mordek wrote:
Ok. I've been trying to re-read and trim my post up so I don't have any distracting details. My main thought is I can't see Wave making that big post which obviously creates a confident and open atmosphere right from the start, absolutely a Town move, and then it's some huge reverse psychology thing. We're going to find out soon if he points us in the wrong direction as the leader.

I don't have great reads on scum, I'm not sure what makes a good read vs. a feeling. So far Swaglord has been contentless, changes the subject, or is just unrelated and doesn't build any conversation. Also owb has not posted yet, do we know if he has a good reason not to?

I don't know how this is a bandwagon. Me and Wave voted for you and now I'm hopping on a wagon?

You're not the only one. Just check the votecount. Your reasoning feels weak.

So does wave's but not lynching him D1.

Ok, so I see you posted this twice so I'll respond. This is D1, I've tried to push and poke a couple things and observe. I haven't seen any better argument for someone being scum. Honestly, point me to who you think is scum and why and I'll vote if it makes sense. I'm not changing my vote just because Wave unvoted either.

On October 14 2014 03:12 mordek wrote:
Wow epic fail on rewording that second sentence. "This tells us nothing of who are next lynch target should be." Period, no leftovers from the edited prior sentence. Wow that looks dumb lol.

This is where I failed to edit, it looks silly, you even made a joke but I can understand you bringing it up to sway other people Wave. This was me justifying why I stuck with LT (who was killed by mafia.... as scum why would I keep my vote on him?) Honestly my thoughts D1 were MB didn't give me as scummy a vibe as everyone else seemed to have and there wasn't even a close second. At that point it just looks like I hop on a wagon so I stuck with LT. I think I made the right call there to stick it out but I'm sure I'll find out.

A lot of your posting just doesn't look great at all. Gives me bad feels.

There's my thoughts behind all the posts I made. Just point out what about what I said had scum motivation instead of just quoting a bunch of my filter.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 18:31 GMT
#1401
I like how Soniv dodged the claim or your getting lynched questions too. Admittedly he could be in meetings but let's not forget.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 18:36 GMT
#1403
Alaric, owb switched to me.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 18:57 GMT
#1407
That was probably a dramatic way of putting it but Wave said you're going to need to claim or make a big play
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 20:59 GMT
#1467
I'm not sure if Alz is just saying what I want to hear but I've been agreeing with a lot he's posted throughout the game but he also seems to explain things for people a lot. I'm not sure if that's a scum move or not but I thought I'd bring it up.

Coma has been really absent since soniv and ghandi have become the main focus.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 21:10 GMT
#1477
Since my vote I'm feeling Ghandi's behavior is still guiltiest.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 15 2014 21:13 GMT
#1481
##Vote GhandiEAGLE
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
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