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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 00:07 GMT
#1794
OH if scum and COma doublestack we have a shot at an extra day mebbe....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 00:47 GMT
#1804
On October 16 2014 09:10 Cixah wrote:
This game is actually aids.

Soniv and Wave pulled some mega shady shit at the end there. Especially with the confirm from lack of "protect" call on wave.

I'll be reading but I'm going to take a break and just relax. We'll know in 24 hours what's going on.

I'm not sure I understand what this means.

Anyway I thought of something.
We're actually in a surprisingly decent position right now.

Essentially scum have only one proper play they can make, otherwise we get info. The other thing is, now we know for sure since ketchup herp derped that he was telling the truth about RB---this means the setup is likely Goon-RB-GF. It's pretty standard and makes sense considering we have a parity cop. Now obviously Dandel could have red herringed us a bit, but I'm willing to bet scum don't have extra KP so I think we may only lose 2 tonight.

Also I'm pretty sure I know who Coma poisoned and I'm not gonna say anything for hopes of doublestack.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 05:35 GMT
#1809
Oh yeah, just remembered something random:
Asmo is back on the table since hammering 3P doesn't mean shit.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 11:19 GMT
#1812
Oh yeah...didn't even consider that LT or ketchup got poisoned.
This night could be real good for us.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 15:22 GMT
#1819
Wtf are you talking about?

Some things:
I think it might almost be little better that you're probably not getting a check off, because there's likely a GF floating around.

Also considering how scum have to play tonight I might as well just say, I think coma probably poisoned me N1. He had every reason to be afraid of my play and was giving me town reads if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong but either way not like it matters. On the off chance we do have a poisoner, I can't say for certain that you should antidote me; it could be someone else or it could be better to just let me die if people are super suspicious of me still.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:04 GMT
#1832
Req, flat out ignoring that post.
Sorry buddeh.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:19 GMT
#1837
Alaric should be higher up on the suspicious list right now for everyone. His play has been classically good town play, but for all the people who keep throwing suspicion on me because I'm capable of lying/manipulating as scum, look at Alaric's play. He very clearly knows how to play mafia and knows exactly what he is talking about, and so should so know what town likes to hear. I also remember saying I originally liked his vote dump on coma but now that coma flipped 3P, it doesn't mean anything anymore similar to Asmo' hammer. (essentially either of them could have thought they were voting town)

And as for req I'll defer to someone who had a primary scum read on him---the tunnel vision has gotten insanely out of hand, even for a newbie. Soniv these questions are for you but others can answer I suppose.

Do you think it's possible for req to simply be sticking to his guns because
A) it's easy to do and keeps him consistent
B) because he knows a lynch on me will never gain traction and so he can't be held accountable?


Like I still doubt I'd lynch the guy tomorrow over someone like owb for example but people have to admit it's getting a little bit insane, even for terrible town.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#1839
Req soniv claimed blue with more than enough time to deal with it. I have nothing to say to you anymore dude. You're either scum or you're horrible town, and either way you're distracting and useless. Get back to me and the rest of town when you get a clue. You can't just call everything I do deflecting because I refuse to engage your ridiculous notions anymore.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:28 GMT
#1842
Well too bad because I'm not going to try to convince a guy who has tunnel vision ed me since the start of the game. I tried to do it with logic days ago and that didn't work, it's certainly not going to work now and a waste of time and will just serve to piss me off. Req doesn't believe in the way mafia is supposed to be played, he scoffs when people try to help and give him advice and he does what he wants. You're welcome to cater to him because I've done it long enough.

I'm going to be ignoring req until he gives me reason not to, and garnering votes against me tomorrow won't do it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:43 GMT
#1845
OK soniv I'm willing to compromise a little;if you think reps case is so good, bring the points to be you think are worth me addressing and I'll to it. You can champion his case if you think I'm scummy too. The point is I don't want to turn this into the req v wave show and I know arguing with him is completely futile. I deal with people like this all the time in mafia.

Remember a guy called raynpelikoneet? If you don't, look up a couple of his games. He can be a good player but sometimes he flips the fuck out for no reason or tunnel vision insanely hard all game against a person of his choosing. I've been that person a couple times before and nothing I ever say or do convinces him other wise despite his grilling. It's incredibly time consuming, frustrating, demoralizing, and most of all useless. I will not be dealing with that this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:48 GMT
#1850
I know, right?
Difference being
A) I haven't done it all game
B) I'm constantly willing to reevaluate and constantly do
C) I'm nowhere near on the same stubbornness level as req. You know that.
D) I don't have a claim to fall back on

Your call dude, I've made my position clear. If I played like shit yesterday it doesn't mean you have to do the same.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 17:42 GMT
#1862
How many blue roles make sense in this setup? If it's 3 then thinking about it I think we actually must have a poisoner assuming all the other blues were telling the truth. No other roles make sense and I assume no via since they could/should have shot yesterday. It also makes sense to have at least 2 poisoners in the game considering the antidote mechanic, and I've already explained why I don't think scum have one.

I am fine with poisoner saving themselves whoever thought that up
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 17:49 GMT
#1864
Nah medic and JK is probably OP.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 17:53 GMT
#1867
Which reminds me.
Claim your targets at deadline or something of the sort?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 17:55 GMT
#1868
Alz you should look up how roles are determined on mafiascum or something.
Essentially only a few kinds of setups are possible/balanced so while the roles people yet are completely randomized, the possible roles are only partially randomized between a few setups. 3 poisoners or multiple JK for example would be considered bastard hosting.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 19:05 GMT
#1873
Where did Asmo post?
Also Alaric could you condense that monstrosity a little bit?
I can honestly say I have e no idea of the final messages I'm supposed to get from that.
Some tl;dr on each point, if you please.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 19:23 GMT
#1880
On October 17 2014 04:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
don't take it personally Alaric, Wave didn't read my posts either

Fuck you son (4) I read them and I read Alaric's.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 19:30 GMT
#1881
Lol I love how your tldr is still pretty long.
My point I made about you and coma isn't that us killing 3P was bad (it was pretty good) its that you didn't know you were killing scum by dropping your vote like that. If coma flipped red it would clear you completely but since he didn't it doesn't. That's whatever though.

I'm only a little salty about req. If you look throughout the game I've constantly responded to his posts and he continually ignores and dismisses the advice and the points I make to show him how he's wrong. I don't feel it is productive to continue doing so, nor do I harbor any misconceptions that he will somehow be convinced by what I have to say. As I said if someone more reasonable wants to discuss his points with me I'd be glad to but arguing with req will be absolutely fruitless.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 20:56 GMT
#1897
Last post before deadline for me.
Don't really know what I want to say here...I guess owb/Asmo and either alaric jeff or req?
There's an issue with mordek but it's not that he's necessarily scum. I guess I'll elaborate if I survive the night and if I can.

I'm REALLY starting to doubt my own defenses and read of req, especially in light of some things I've seen. There's a lot of WIFOM surrounding his capabilities right now in my brain (and apparently Alaric's?) so I dunno. No free pass for anyone tomorrow. People who know the game know what's supposed to happen with roles tonight, if things don't go as they're 'supposed' to then there's a problem and we'll have to slow down and think.

Catch y'all on the flip side.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 17 2014 00:49 GMT
#1925
Alright so owb WAS having a case of the 'I-know-way-toomuch's'
On October 16 2014 06:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 11:59 onlywonderboy wrote:
Alright. First things first, I think the push for Wave being scum is mostly unwarranted. He has a lot of experience so it's easy to get caught up in the idea of "OMG if he's mafia we're screwed because he has the most experience and we have to be extra suspicious of him." That said, his play hasn't been inherently scummy. There have been several occasions where's he's tried to take control of the conversation and guide the town away from certain topics (the modkill discussion comes to mind). I believe that's honestly him trying to move the town in the direction of finding scum instead of limiting town options. He was the most active member Day 1 and I think he did the town more good than harm Day 1, no reason to even consider him for a Day 2 lynch atm.

That said, even though ketchup is the one pushing back on Wave's play the most, I also think he's town. I can see how Wave's play could seem abrasive and confusing to newer players so I think ketchup is just seeing it as scum play even though sometimes it takes a strong hand to lead the town in the right direction.

As far as scum goes I currently believe Asmo is scum. He's been fairly vocal but I don't think he's really contributed much of note. His actions around the lynch just seems a little off too. He switched off Ghandi just because of his long impassioned post that didn't really have that much substance. I think he felt comfortable pushing MB because it was clear a lot of people agreed it was a fine lynch and he could easily fall back on the defense of "he was a lurker anyway" when MoonBear flipped town. He did push MB early, but that was done to call him out for being a lurker which, again, can easily be defended. Pushing lurkers is important but it can also be a tactic for scum to actively look like they are doing town work. Also I don't like his post after the lynch. Just seems like he's trying to play up the fact he's a noob and his actions should be pardoned because he went about the first night wrong. Just rubbed me the wrong way.



this post, owb.
How are your insights so good so as for you to get everything 'right' in this post (that is to say, from my POV). You defend me when nobody else does.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 12:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On October 13 2014 12:37 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Anything else?

Nothing really else of note. Seemed like a pretty standard Day 1 from the mafia games I played. A lot of name calling and people trying their name, people calling out lurkers, ect. Had I been caught up with the game by lynch time I would have gone ahead with Wave and switched my vote.

Why add this? It's completely non-indicative of anything and it just looks as though you want on my good side.

There's SO much of this kind of posting in your filter and I was willing to ignore it for a while because I just thought you were being good town-bro 'cause we came up with a lot of the same shit but that recent voting thing man may have been the straw.

Well it took me a while but at least I'm getting there.
I have to do some massive re-evaluation of all my reads. I had a pretty good reason to think mordek was town but I think I'm going to drop that reason. I think the same may very well go for Req.

Unfortunately I can only really trust 6ah right now so it's back to square one. Alzadar I sincerely hope you were roleblocked. Scum have only one option for NK tomorrow night and that's you now, and if you don't die then we have a problem on our hands (or scum is dumb/ballsy). No other deaths last night means we either don't have another role, somebody doublestacked owb or somebody didn't speak up with their role usage.

At this point if we have another blue I think it's safe to claim because scum HAS to kill Alz tonight no matter what (correct me if I'm wrong on this btw)

Um...more vomit to follow when I gather my thoughts.
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