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Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 19:58 GMT

#377

Well now we know who's dying at night lel

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 20:03 GMT

#386

No one believes vanilla town claims. It's also the most common scum claim too, and no one will ever abandon a VT lynch.

The Innocent Child claim was early, but w/e. Find scum elsewhere. Either he'll die at night or he'll be confirmed town. Either way.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 20:20 GMT

#392

Yes.

Stop trying to guess setup D1, also. Useless and helps scum more since they know more about the setup.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 20:30 GMT

#399

Can people stop making silly VT claims D1? Super annoying.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 20:36 GMT

#405

Again, claiming VT is like the ultimate scum claim and does nothing for town. If you're actual VT, stfu and multiply, because you shield blues. If you're blue, you'll end up claiming VT D1 anyways unless super-pressed, and it undermines your blue claim LATER, and if you're mafia, you're going to claim VT unless you're fairly certain you've cleared out all the blues (or there aren't any due to mafia roles, like all mafia goons).

So claiming VT is like bleh. Don't do it. Just say town and move on, for the love of jebus.

Incidentally why I seriously hated wave for his first post.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 20:42 GMT

#414

They aren't, but I hate them. srs

Also 6ah, it was a super early claim. We haven't even broken 24hrs yet, and like 90% of TL mafia is played in the last 3 hours of the day.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 20:44 GMT

#418

This is a newbie game, so pressure votes are real.

I'm just too lazy to do it right now lelel

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 22:39 GMT

#459

just policy lynch lurkers

always necessary in newbie games

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 11 2014 23:00 GMT

#465

neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO?

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 00:44 GMT

#474

On October 12 2014 08:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's a long weekend in Canada. I'd give coma the benefit of the doubt.
OWB is a known lurker and even when pressured doesn't really perform (from what I remember from the Lol mafia game). Lynching him is essentially a dice roll.
Who else that is a lurker would you want to lynch?

That is true, but if I were to ask, "who would likely contribute as a town player to find and lynch scum", would OWB be one of them? I'd say no. I do hate policy lynches, but if there's no one else...

As for Coma, I'm waiting to see if he'll just get modkilled D1.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 00:58 GMT

#482

On October 12 2014 09:34 ComaDose wrote:
like wouldn't making baseless accusations be more scummy? i dont know becuase im new

Early D1 is all about making accusations to spark conversation (in newbie games at least: silent thread=scum wins). Even if it's about how bad the accusations are.

Once we hit D2 and have some flips to read, play becomes much more analytical.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 00:59 GMT

#484

On October 12 2014 09:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
we're not at the "whelp, there's no one better to lynch" point yet, there's still an entire 24 hour period

Swaglord, what do you think of MB

I ignored everything he wrote after he revealed he didn't actually read the thread (saying I played 3 games instead of 5 as I explicitly clarified).

Also giant wall-o-text that is ultimately more useless than Urgot.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 01:04 GMT

#485

On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

Show nested quote +

I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches:

Show nested quote +

So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options.
And you 'hate' policy lynches.
Hmm.

I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 01:47 GMT

#487

On October 12 2014 10:34 Cixah wrote:
I want to post from my phone but it's difficult. I'll see if I can't put my post together when I get home at stupid o'clock.

80% of my posts on this forum are from my phone.

WIMP.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 02:18 GMT

#489

On October 12 2014 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2014 10:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:

On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:

I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches:

On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:

On October 12 2014 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is maybe the lowest activity game I've ever played in thus far...not entirely surpriused but still.
So am I to understand then that
a) Tolkien as confirmed town you're not going to bother to play the game? Surely as confirmed town it is your duty to steer the town in the right direction so you can help us win, correct?
b) Jeff you just don't give any shits at all?

Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could.

I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO...

+ Show Spoiler +

Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +

which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel

On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:

On October 12 2014 04:20 Requizen wrote:
I asked because I skipped a handful of posts per page and skimmed the rest. As I said, my play time is limited D1 and N1 and my reading time is low, so I genuinely don't know.

As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me.

pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia.

d1 policy lynch inc

Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live.

On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers

always necessary in newbie games

On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO?

So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options.
And you 'hate' policy lynches.
Hmm.

I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games.

Do you have an actual scumread then, or are you just gonna continue saying "I hate policy lynches, but we probably should do one" over and over?

Survey says:

Yes.

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 03:29 GMT

#491

On October 12 2014 12:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 12 2014 11:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:

On October 12 2014 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:

On October 12 2014 10:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:

On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:

I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches:

On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:

Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could.

I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO...

+ Show Spoiler +

Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +

which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel

On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:

pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia.

d1 policy lynch inc

Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live.

On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers

always necessary in newbie games

On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO?

So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options.
And you 'hate' policy lynches.
Hmm.

I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games.

Do you have an actual scumread then, or are you just gonna continue saying "I hate policy lynches, but we probably should do one" over and over?

Survey says:

Yes.

Would you care to elaborate?

What do we say to the god of death?

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 09:56 GMT

#493

Right. It's no longer yesterday, and town clearly needs to be saved from drowning. So. Good thing I don't put in effort until the second half of D1. Town Hero Mode ACTIVATE

Confirmed Town
Swaglord Tolkien: The towniest of towns. Anyone who wants to lynch him is the scummiest of scums.
6ah: Random early Innocent Child claim. Confirmed town until D2: if no innocent child post, clearly scum or anti-town. So until that unlikely scenario, JOIN ME 6er in confirmed town glory.

Not Quite Confirmed Town, maybe a nice shade of minty green: NOT ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK D1
Sonib: Equally frustrated by the "lel I'm VT" and "lel I'm nub" trend in this thread.
Wav: "let's lynch the guy with the longest filter! HAHA! Best play NA!"

Additionally, I see no point in lynching any "vets" D1 when they have actual filters to read. UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE COUGH COUGH HACK HACK GAG GAG. These are no lyncherino until later on.

Besides, they'll probably be shot by mafia if they're town anyways, as I highly doubt a non-Sonib/Wav/me mafia would try to pull an epic WIFOM attempt and try to leave them alive for LYLO + Show Spoiler +

(note, I tried to do this in my scum game [keeping the vet alive for LYLO for an easy mislynch], but I'm confirmed town here [also it got ruined by a next-to-last day cop claim ruining my lynching/shooting pattern])

. So anyways, they'll die anyways if they're not scum. No reason to lynch. :D

mordek: I like him. Him response to the 6ah random early Innocent Child claim is townie to me. I want him to be more decisive with his reads on other people, but I'm townpiling him for now. Also mordek, unvote 6ah right now.
Alaric: Also sold on Alaric for now. Very pro-town set of posts, but also lacking decision for now. Perhaps nubishness.
ketchup: Same as above: going the right direction.

Null/scummy
Alzadar: His filter is very forgettable for me. Outside of the attempted "how many games has everyone played" post (which is also grossly inaccurate). Doesn't mention me at all besides in response to my direct corrections to his errors, despite my first-half D1 being literally trundle. Seriously, anyone who wasn't considering me a viable D1 wagon is probably scum (or bad town who could also be axed if we don't find scum today)

Old Jeff: trolling about as hard as I was, and that's an achievement given how hard I was trolling. Nulling him for now, actually despite everyone scumreading him. I think his behavior makes sense for D1 and is fine. But not townsided as yet.

Asmo: Aggressiveness is not a scum tell lel. In fact, given this is TL mafia, it's usually the opposite (I've been listening to vets moan about how TL scum players just lurk and get killed because it boosts their win percentage by getting auto-town reads). In any event, scum DON'T want to be confrontational unless they're caught and need to defend themselves. Scum play tends to be more passive and "lurky", since the goal for scum is to survive.

Also, overall find your post pretty meh, so still null. Most "towny" of this list, but w/e, not happy with that post.

Either mafia newbs or scum, I Can't Tell
MoonBear: Either his continuous attempts to discuss blue roles is a sign of newbishness, or a bald-faced (newbish) scum play. Can't tell which. Given this is a newbie game probably the former but eh. Also, MoonBear makes a gigantic post that can be summed up in like 5 short sentences.

"Is Wave WIFOMing? I don't know. Host-Player WIFOM. Let me badger for roles and stuff again. Also I think Alzadar, sweglerd, and Req are weird."

See MoonBear? Wasn't that simpler and easier to write?

Req: He's flailing around the noob card so hard, I'm surprised his arms haven't fallen off. And spending his time saying "wagh I don't like that you guys are trying to play mafia wagh". I give free passes for that in newbie games, but you're overusing it so hard right now, it sounds like you're just scum trying to use it to excuse everything. Also:

Tolkien is just trying to kill Wave out of principle, which I can understand.

I said I'd kill JEFF out of principle. I said I'd kill Wave because vengeance for making me bald and because he was being uncharacteristically Un-Canadian when he tried to club ~~baby seals~~ jeff.

Also:

As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me.

This is basically a live mafia level play that I would do. Hint: Storr ends up policy-lynching me D1 everytime I go "whatever, I'm town and screw you all, you'll see when I flip". Why? Because it's a terrible defense and you clearly don't care about the game (which is true everytime I do it in live: gotta watch dem smash and LoL games).

As I carry myself much differently in forum and live mafia, I'd say lynch him for the attitude alone.

Bunch-o Lurking Voyeurs
OWB: Apparently lurking is his meta. Would lynch if only because it means he'll likely be useless in following days and will be harder to read with less posts.
ComaDose: In a coma. Or drunk. Or both. Then again he just posted so... Also, about as bad as Req in pulling the "hi im new" card. Also,

I didnt really think anyone acted particularly scummy. i do think people like alaric and asmo are putting in good townie effort. unless they are in on it together?!?!

wat. My brain is all WOOSH. I cannot contain this illogic.

Two people putting in effort to find scum doesn't mean they're working together. wat

Anyways, NO MORE NOOB CLAIM PLOX.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/301748-a-general-guide-to-mafia

read this instead of complaining (REQ...)

I'd be pretty happy with a MoonBear wagon right about now. Otherwise a policy lynch of Req or a lurker would suffice.

##Vote MoonBear

Lord Tolkien

United States12083 Posts

October 12 2014 17:09 GMT

#521

1) you think i wouldn't vote OWB? Lawl. The only ones I'm going to protect is confirmed town. Aka 6ah at this point. You guys were moaning about not policy lynching lurkers despite admitting he'll prob be useless later and thus should be gotten rid of now. If i thought we could get one off the ground, SURE. W/e, we lynch him d2 or something.

2) you're on my null/scummy list for a reason asmo. Also everyone's been playing the noob card. Req was just overusing it massively. Also live-mafia me level post. Most ahuehue.

3) a d1 wagon on me? Awww yeah. This brings back the newbie nostalgia. Either i look scummy d1 or I'm scum. Yeeeeehaw.

4) jeff you're not town. Just not "scum scum" because your behavior sucks if you're mafia. In newbie mafia in particular, mafia will probably hide by posting like Alaric or Mordek or Moonbear. Newbie mafia aren't inclined to troll as their first instinct.

5) Alzadar pls. I always spam videos and memes.

Blame tehPoofter and that Star Trek mafia game.

Your post is also the most entertaining. Much superficial.

6) pls, you shouldn't be listening to anyone but yourself and confirmed town. And even then. Vets can be the wrongest people ever in mafia, and being confirmed town doesn't mean you have good reads lawl.