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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 05:16 GMT
#1107
Inorite
The timing is actually really good for him.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 05:17 GMT
#1110
Also I'm gonna be pissed if scumteam is something I wouldn't consider like lurk city owb/coma/jeff
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 05:23 GMT
#1112
See come on ketchup. ^^ That's not a scum post.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 05:36 GMT
#1115
On October 14 2014 14:29 Requizen wrote:
fyi ketchup, you made the scum list. Congrats.

Coma still retains the vote until I'm sure who else I want to vote for. I could unvote, but I do wish to see how he will respond to the votes on him at the moment. I don't have any current intention to leave it up if I like his response. That said, it better be good, Coma.

I highly doubt it will be tbh.

By the way, if anyone else got roleblocked last night, you better claim it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 10:35 GMT
#1124
Because it doesn't matter to me which of stow people I think are scum get lynched first---if I can't get the support for one I'll go for the other.

As for your scenario I am 90% sure you are wrong. I asked but I am fairly certain your thing can't be roleblocked---it's not a power technically. Yes it's possible scum buried their rb and ketchup is lying for towncred but again you're thinking up convoluted scenarios in the face of way mor easily explained scenarios. Scum almost always have a roleblock. Like every game. Town had absolutely no reason to protect ketchup. Again this is one of those things where unfortunately you're just wrong.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 11:01 GMT
#1126
Lol wow apparently it can bbe roleblocked. Well even so, it, doesn't make any sense then for scum to not use it on you and fake a claim---instead same as me I figure scum simply didn't know they could have blocked it and they gambled on ketchup being a blue.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 11:27 GMT
#1127
6ah I see you posting.
Talk to me.
I got an hour of sleep cause my guy wet the bed at 5:30 so keep me awake while I attempt to study or something
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 11:37 GMT
#1129
On October 14 2014 20:31 Cixah wrote:
I'm posting and working at the same time.

I'm not sure yet. I really want Soniv to say almost anything at all, Alaric too. Way too many people being silent and not actually being in here. It is stupid oclock in the morning so i'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt.

My idea on the RB not being used on me is more than likely scum not knowning that they could. Leads me to think that 1) there aren't any vets on Scum or 2) I'm being baited hard.

Soniv feels red, especially of late, but I need a post from him to confirm it.

How would soniv posting help you to confirm him as red? If he is obviously he'd be trying to post something that doesn't look scummy when he comes back so unless there's something very specific or a tell you're looking for, I don't know what you hope to gain exactly.

As for the RB, I'm a vet and I never would have thought to use the RB on you. I really think that you're overthinking it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 11:38 GMT
#1130
And yeah Alaric has dropped pretty far down the townlist for me. Really hasn't said or done anything particularly useful in a while. Luckily for him there are plenty of people who look way worse.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 11:52 GMT
#1132
Pretty sure mine is. Even so, consistency isn't something you need to be looking for.
In your case if you're having trouble figuring out who is really red then I guess determine what you find scummy about everyone and who the worst offenders are (ie who to vote today---may I humbly suggest soniv lol).
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 11:54 GMT
#1133
Also I don't think anyone's problem with soniv is specifically that he went after MB/LT and they were town. That's fairly minor in my opinion. I have my own reasons for voting him (not limited to the lack of strong opinions) and they're outlined in my filter.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 19:09 GMT
#1214
Still in the midst of catching up but Req you're playing like shit again.
Shape up. You have me as your number one scumread again all of a sudden? Like wtf is that? Refusing to look into other people in more detail, ragevoting ketchup?

I dunno for those who think Req is scum consider that people thought MB was scum for faking newbie shit too...I think this may be a game where the newbies actually are just that. If req has been faking some of this stuff he's been doing a fucking masterful job imo, and you're discounting a lot of the effort he HAS put in when it was relevant.

Or of course it could just be the people voting for him are scum or something.

FInishing my read.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 19:15 GMT
#1215
Soniv the best thing you can do right now if you're town is do what you haven't done in like fucking ages.
Provide some reads.
HELP OUT THE TOWN in some way.
If you die and flip green this way we'll have a whole bunch to work with
Your vote/case on Req doesn't help you much in my eyes. There are a lot of people in this game still, and I have no idea what you think about most of them.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 19:21 GMT
#1217
Oh and hey everyone!
On October 14 2014 13:33 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I'll hold my tongue on this for a few minutes, I think.



On October 14 2014 14:03 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I see Wave and Soniv as sort of opposites right now. They represent two schools of suspicion for me, and that means I don't think both of them are scum or town. I could also see Asmo or Req as scum, but I couldn't see Asmo as scum with Soniv. Wave and Req as both scum would mean that their exchanges were the results of deep coordination, which I don't buy from a first-time Requizen.

Right now my suspicion is leaning less off of Wave.

Also, upon thinking more, I'm pretty confident Req is innocent. I can't see him being Mafia with either Soniv nor Wave right now, and I think one of those two is scum.


On October 14 2014 14:05 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
AKA I want to vote Soniv right now, but something is holding me back.


On October 15 2014 00:14 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
He's not stepping up at all. He hasn't provided much of anything other than a vote he knows will keep certain people off his back. "I think the suspicious guy is suspicious."

I don't think this makes him scum, but he needs to work more for that.

Look at all these hard stances Jeff has taken today! He sure seems confident enough to make a call and tell us who his scumreads are!

People know where I stand at this point. Everyone seems to be willing to give Asmo more time based on his earlier posting, that's fine with me for now. One of Soniv/Jeff is going down today and I will be keeping this pressure up. It's early yet but just know that you people will have to make a decision between the two of them today in all likelihood.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 19:24 GMT
#1219
On October 15 2014 04:19 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 04:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Still in the midst of catching up but Req you're playing like shit again.
Shape up. You have me as your number one scumread again all of a sudden? Like wtf is that? Refusing to look into other people in more detail, ragevoting ketchup?

I dunno for those who think Req is scum consider that people thought MB was scum for faking newbie shit too...I think this may be a game where the newbies actually are just that. If req has been faking some of this stuff he's been doing a fucking masterful job imo, and you're discounting a lot of the effort he HAS put in when it was relevant.

Or of course it could just be the people voting for him are scum or something.

FInishing my read.

I'm playing the game the best way I think it should be played. If my play is deteriorating it's just because I'm tired of everyone constantly telling me I'm shit and that everything that comes out of my mouth is wrong. If that's the case, then I'll just stop posting and jump on whatever bandwagon is strongest, because clearly I'm always wrong and it annoys people to read my posts.

You were always my #1 scumread (tied with LordT). I said it D1, I said it N1, and I confirmed it multiple times today. It hasn't changed. Once it does I'll say something. I never said anything to the contrary, so why would you ever say "wtf" to that?

I'm not refusing to look into people. I gave my reviews of other people during N1, I think I got everyone but I might have forgotten a couple. If so, tell me and I will look into them.

I ragevoted ketchup but who gives a fuck, it literally hurts no one.

Yeah and you also said yourself you're shitty at reads.
You haven't gone back and updated your thoughts on me at all since like yesterday, and you STILL think the reason I'm scum is that I am manipulating everybody all game? Like how in the fuck would I be able to get away with that forever?
Req now is not the time to shut down, especially in the face of shitty pressure. It's your first game, you're bound to be wrong about a lot of stuff. Look at 6ah for example

Just play the game, you were doing fine yesterday, keep that up.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 19:25 GMT
#1220
On October 15 2014 04:24 mordek wrote:
I would be willing to move my vote from soniv to ghandi. Those are both my top picks.

You sir, are very lucky I think you're town because as far as I remember both you and owb have been doing nothing but parroting me all game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 19:56 GMT
#1225
Eh. I think the only 'dangerous one if left alive' is probably me at this point.

/master of manipulation
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 22:41 GMT
#1243
I will absolutely not be voting req today.
I you guys are being fooled by Soniv that's perfectly fine, but I've already said where my vote is going.
Frankly I don't see what's so convincing here that Soniv posted. I think one of the problems (myself included) is that people sit around and wait for somebody to post when they think they're scummy, then they come back and post and say 'well I liked that post, so and so can't be scum'

Do you know how easy it is to appease people with a post like that?
I'm not going in for it today. Yes req is playing liked shit now and his vote was shit too, but it doesn't make him scum.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 22:50 GMT
#1245
It makes sense from a shit town perspective, and zero from a scum perspective.
He keeps taking completely unpopular points of view which are likely to get him lynched, he refuses to take advice or listen to those better than him.

Tell me how drawing so much negative attention to oneself and acting the way he has toward others is scum play.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 14 2014 23:06 GMT
#1253
On October 15 2014 07:55 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 07:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
It makes sense from a shit town perspective, and zero from a scum perspective.
He keeps taking completely unpopular points of view which are likely to get him lynched, he refuses to take advice or listen to those better than him.

Tell me how drawing so much negative attention to oneself and acting the way he has toward others is scum play.


That's a good point too. I just think there is a limit to how "newb" you can play the game. I also want to clarify that he didn't draw attention to himself. I drew attention to him earlier, and Soniv has pointed out similar things afterwards.

So what are you voting Wave? Are you sticking to the soniv vote? Even though before, without my interference, you were 100% all in on Ghandi?

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll vote either of them. If people want to switch to Jeff that's fine with me.

Req stop fucking martyring.

I'm still not seeing what's so good about sonivs play that has made you change your mind ketchup. Deflection onto req is a really good tactic because he's proven to be extremely predictable in how he acts.

Soniv who else is scum? We're at the point in the game where you've gotta have more than just one read.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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