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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 12 2014 08:26 GMT
#367
I'd lynch ritoky on day 2. He's probably learned from VA that posting random pictures is a great way for town to ignore you. Unfortunately that only applies to VA.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 12 2014 10:38 GMT
#395
Sorry to interrupt the discussion at hand, but DP, you were heavily against sqrt earlier for claiming mafia, and then after he spoke up you unvoted him. What answer were you looking for, for why he claimed mafia? What did his answer tell you?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 12 2014 11:00 GMT
#398
On October 12 2014 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Other things. Hopeless is almost definitely town unless counter-claimed.
Oats is almost definitely town for cutting out the shit talk someone tried to push after his claim.
Whoever that dude was didn't even call hopeless mafia but only casted doubt on his claim for no reason (it was the correct play to claim). Why did you do that whoever you were?


That was sqrt IIRC
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 12 2014 11:22 GMT
#400
On October 12 2014 20:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
CR does it make sense to you GB is calling out people who are scumreading the same people he is?
Also does it make sense to you he scumreads people for trying to scumhunt?


Yes to the first question. Besides geript, ritoky's reads and different than GB's, and even the reasoning for geript is different as well. If I was scumreading someone and someone else was scumreading them as well, but for crappy reasons, I would totally call him out on it. It's a good indication of scum either pretending to be active or bussing.

Can you give me the specific example for the second question? I'm not sure what it is referring to.

Also when I was revisiting GB's filter, I noticed that he volunteered information that he was at a party like 4 times, even though nobody criticized him for being absent. Seems a little too defensive to me. If there's something scummy about GB to me, it would be that.

I would still rather lynch sqrt today though. What do you think about him?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 13 2014 05:06 GMT
#660
On October 13 2014 09:33 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is the town slip;

So sqrt is clearly not reading the thread because he treats Barakos and rayn as separate entities.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities.
Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good.
Rayn is null



If he had access to a scum qt you can bet your arse that he would know rayn had replaced in regardless of reading the thread or not.

If rayn as scum it would be apparent in the qt cause he would be in the qt.

If rayn is town all the scummers would be shitting their pantsu.

Sqrt slipped ignorance of something scum would not be ignorant about.

He is very likely to be town aligned, would not lynch for a few days.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, I'm back, but I have a really busy thanksgiving weekend. I'll touch on the people who I haven't yet, and go back to the festivities.
Barakos has few posts, but they are all really good.
Rayn is null



I don't think him mistaking bara and rayn is indicative of a town slip. It only indicates that he hasn't touched filters yet (because he would have seen the replacement in the OP), and he was browsing quickly (because he would have seen the mod note). I do agree that it's less likely for sqrt to be scum if rayn is scum.

In my experience, I've never seen talk about replacements in the scum qt. Half the time the scum qt is barren until the first night.

I'll revisit sqrt
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 13 2014 20:44 GMT
#937
The case on Oats is pretty solid

You have my vote
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 13 2014 21:00 GMT
#953
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 13 2014 21:03 GMT
#957
THIS IS ALL DP'S FAULT!

jk, was a decent lynch
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 21:00 GMT
#1116
If DP or rayn dies -> primes are real -> roles don't claim
Scum shot the towniest person. DP or rayn would be obvious medic saves, unless mafia knew there wasn't a medic because they know there are three primes.
If hopeless or DP dies - primes are real -> roles don't claim
Scum shot a prime. Which means if the other prime-claim is scum, then any parity cop or medic claim would instantly kill him.
Anyone else dies -> primes fake -> roles don't claim
Scum was trying to hunt roles. If scum knew there are three primes, then there would be no risk of medic save, and they wouldn't need to hunt roles. Shooting the towniest person would be perfectly safe. But if someone random like me dies, the most likely explanation would be blue hunting. If there is a blue, he would claim at start of day anyways, so there's no loss to mafia having him die early and making hopeless/dp look bad.
Nobody dies -> doesn't mean anything
This is a complicated situation. Nobody dying would make it seem like there is a medic. If I was mafia this game, and I knew the prime claims were real, then I would hold my shot. By holding my shot, it gives the impression that there is a medic. Everyone would agree that medic shouldn't come out because the evidence of medic is already there. Town would believe that there is a fake between the primes. The likely course of action is both primes get lynched. So let's not do that.

Ran out of time, will talk 2mrw if I don't die.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 21:06 GMT
#1118
Cool, hopeless is pretty much confirmed town then
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:05 GMT
#1122
If GB is indeed the parity cop, looks like my read was wrong
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:06 GMT
#1123
and also sqrt is probably mafia. At the time of his big post, hopeless was still an uncounterclaimed role, but sqrt spoke as if hopeless was mafia.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:08 GMT
#1124
Not sure if we should lynch hopeless or not today though. There's still the issue if GB's claim is real or not. If he dies tonight and he flips cop, we lynch hopeless. If not, then he gets a valuable parity cop check.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:11 GMT
#1125
Yeah, I find it hard to believe that mafia would actually shoot the prime.

What does everyone think about just leaving both hopeless and GB alive today?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:23 GMT
#1132
If I were to pick between hopeless and GB for the mafia, it would be GB.

If hopeless was mafia, mafia would know there was a 50% chance of there being a medic. Would they really shoot the towniest person in the game, who was also a prime? DP was the #1 medic save.

Additionally, shooting DP means that any role claim, be it prime or medic, or cop, instantly paints hopeless as scum. Would have been much better to shoot rayn if going after a top town, or hunt for the blue.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:23 GMT
#1133
On October 15 2014 07:22 Damdred wrote:
Glowing did you bread from cop?

Why check hopeless here?


He didn't check hopeless. The existence of a cop means there's only 2 primes. 2 primes have already flipped. Hopeless's prime claim was fake.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:26 GMT
#1135
I still don't really want to lynch either hopeless or GB. We have mislynches to spend, and it doesn't matter which order we spend them. The longer parity cop lives, the better. If GB dies tonight and flips parity cop, we lynch hopeless. If GB does not die, then he's either mafia or they're not shooting him. If he's mafia we can figure it out. If he's not mafia, then if we do eventually lynch him, we will know his checks at least.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:29 GMT
#1136
On October 15 2014 07:25 geript wrote:
Why does DP die? Like that's the real question.


DP was arguably the top town. He had the most influence on day 1, directing everyone to his preferred lynch, and most people were townreading him. Do you think it's possible he was killed because mafia wanted to get rid of the top town?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:32 GMT
#1138
If DP was shot because he was top town, then he was right on somebody. If I was mafia and the most influential town was only pushing on town, I would leave him alive just to get more mislynches. If this is the case, that makes sn0, ritoky, and GB look bad.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 14 2014 22:35 GMT
#1140
I really want to stick with my initial read that if DP was shot, hopeless is town.

I want to lynch GB, tomorrow. If GB does turn out to be the parity cop, we get one check. Mafia gets the choice to shoot him tonight. If mafia wants to silence his check, they kill GB for us, and we can just lynch hopeless. If mafia doesn't shoot GB, we lynch GB, and if he's the parity cop, we still get the check.

I think this is the most beneficial play.
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