EPTHow about him backtracking on that statement a few posts later?
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
How about him backtracking on that statement a few posts later? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On October 12 2014 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote: How about him backtracking on that statement a few posts later? Sounds townish. What do you think about it? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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Barakos
Germany358 Posts
On October 12 2014 16:57 Oatsmaster wrote: What. tell me the benefits of Scum claiming Prime with a 50% chance of AT BEST trading 1-1 with the real Prime. DP is town cause he is trying to find scum/kill stupid people. Also he isnt going around antagonizing people. Last post on this prime-thing by me, since I don't see it leading us anywhere but you asked: If scum claims there are 4 possible scenarios: a) town has no primes (chance is 4/12) - their claim goes through unnoticed, since it is the only primeclaim b) town has 1 prime (4/12) - their claim goes through unnoticed, since 2 town-primes is a possible scenario c) town has 2 primes (3/12) - their claim goes through unnoticed, unless a town powerrole claims, since the only possible setup with 3 town-primes involves no town prs d) town has 3 primes (1/12) Only c) + d) force a scum within the primeclaims, c) does this on the cost of a town blue-claim, d) confirms to mafia, that there are no blues to play around. So mafia is taking a 4/12-chance of being in a 1/3 respectively 1/4 chance to get lynched by claiming prime, while gaining huge setup-information, IF they are forced in such a situation. The other 8/12 put mafia at no risk until the setup becomes more clear, which won't happen at D1. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
Sqrt entered the thread with a joke scumclaim (which is fine imo), but then left for a few hours, and re-entered the thread with some really bad reads after some people were pushing on him. There's a clear difference when town is giving bad reads and when scum is giving bad reads, and it's clear that his reads show a scum mindset. His reasonings are all just "this person did X, therefore he's mafia", without any regard to why X is scummy. I will summarize all his reads: CR is mafia because he made 2 filler posts VE is mafia because he gave a townread on geript and himself Geript is mafia because he's buddying DP GB is mafia because he didn't want to discuss one of his scumreads What else do those 4 reads have in common? Firstly, they are barely relevant to the game with everything else that's happened. Secondly, they all appear near the start of their filters. So what does this mean? This means that sqrt probably just clicked on a few people's filter, read until he could comment on one thing, and then stopped there. Scummy as hell. One other thing that I find interesting. When I defended sqrt's read on GB, he responded to me normally. Let's take a step back and look at this. Sqrt thinks I'm mafia. That means when I ask him something, it should cross his mind that I'm mafia with an agenda other than getting more information. He should have noticed that I asked him about GB, and didn't respond at all on his reads on me. That's one very obvious thing a town sqrt should have noticed. What's more interesting is that he has both GB an I as scumreads, but when I defended GB, he responded to me like he's trying to convince me of his read. For someone who accused geript and DP of buddying, it should have been 1000% obvious that I'm buddying GB, but nope, not at all. Scum scum scummy scummy scum scum. ##Vote: sqrtofneg1 | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
I agree it is a very good observation, but doesn't mean much a few hours into the game when I've been busy all day. This is the first game I've rolled town in a long time, so if I don't go tryhard mode, you should definitely lynch me. In fact, I'll even vote myself if that happens. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 12 2014 17:04 GlowingBear wrote: Sounds townish. What do you think about it? I think you cant call something a good observation when it is then disproven. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 12 2014 17:17 Barakos wrote: Last post on this prime-thing by me, since I don't see it leading us anywhere but you asked: If scum claims there are 4 possible scenarios: a) town has no primes (chance is 4/12) - their claim goes through unnoticed, since it is the only primeclaim b) town has 1 prime (4/12) - their claim goes through unnoticed, since 2 town-primes is a possible scenario c) town has 2 primes (3/12) - their claim goes through unnoticed, unless a town powerrole claims, since the only possible setup with 3 town-primes involves no town prs d) town has 3 primes (1/12) Only c) + d) force a scum within the primeclaims, c) does this on the cost of a town blue-claim, d) confirms to mafia, that there are no blues to play around. So mafia is taking a 4/12-chance of being in a 1/3 respectively 1/4 chance to get lynched by claiming prime, while gaining huge setup-information, IF they are forced in such a situation. The other 8/12 put mafia at no risk until the setup becomes more clear, which won't happen at D1. What the fuck? If scum claims there are 2 possible scenarios. Town counterclaims, (3/4) Town doesnt counterclaim.(1/4) So 25% chance of sliding right by which is really horrible. Once town counterclaims. 2 things happen. 1 counterclaim (2/3) 2 counterclaims (1/3) So in each of these scenarios, scum is put under huge pressure. And what do they gain? A useless blue claim? Not worth it. ANYWAY, whos scum? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 12 2014 15:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Someone said that sqrt was town. Why? I think it was DP. Regarding Prime claim, since there was no counterclaim, hes confirmed town. Cause he looked scummy as shit for no reason. And then basically ignored people getting all up in his grill whilst trying to scum hunt and provide his reads. That seems like a town mindset focused on figuring shit out much more than a scum trying to look good. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 12 2014 15:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Someone said that sqrt was town. Why? I think it was DP. Regarding Prime claim, since there was no counterclaim, hes confirmed town. The setup does not make primes mutually exclusive. There could be as many as 3 and as few as 0. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Thats what I understand. | ||
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Asma
United States5 Posts
I'm sorry, and I won't intrude again. But I just went to work and good lord. I'll like this place. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On October 12 2014 19:02 DarthPunk wrote: The setup does not make primes mutually exclusive. There could be as many as 3 and as few as 0. but there is one. I still think its way too risky for scum to fakeclaim but meh. Although this is the first time I read about the modifications which I assume is to prevent town from breaking the game. Sad. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 12 2014 17:09 GlowingBear wrote: DP, who is mafia? Probably sn0 and That food guy. They look the worst right now anyway. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 12 2014 17:26 Chairman Ray wrote: I'd lynch ritoky on day 2. He's probably learned from VA that posting random pictures is a great way for town to ignore you. Unfortunately that only applies to VA. People lynch the shit out of VA all the time. LOL. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 12 2014 19:03 Asma wrote: /observe moment I'm sorry, and I won't intrude again. But I just went to work and good lord. I'll like this place. Hi! please don't get scared away if we get mean. :D | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 12 2014 19:03 Oatsmaster wrote: but there is one. I still think its way too risky for scum to fakeclaim but meh. Although this is the first time I read about the modifications which I assume is to prevent town from breaking the game. Sad. Yeah what I am saying is that there could be more. I see no reason not to believe hopeless for now. And yeah the modifications are to help scum be able to fake claim something. What do you think of glowing bear? | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
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