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On October 10 2014 05:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It doesn't matter. I already know you're not listening to what I'm saying. It's 100% confirmation bias so no matter what I give you you're just going to continue to tunnel.
I am listening to you, very carefully. that is why you are in this predicament.
just explan it to me, if I like the explanation then I can reevaluate.
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On October 10 2014 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not in any predicament. You are the only person in the entire game that thinks I'm mafia.
can you stop dodging and explain it to me.
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Because I have read all of n1 again and looked at what hf did, and from your perspective I can't see anything that makes you flip your read of him so hard.
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On October 10 2014 05:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I might explain this to you at a later time during this day.
But that time is most certainly not now. I am going to take a break and I'll reconsider walking you through my thought process later.
Alright. cool
I didn't want to get so heated about things but the only thing that stops me voting hope is the fact that you are the one pushing him and everything you do just seems scummy.
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On October 10 2014 05:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:43 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 05:42 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not in any predicament. You are the only person in the entire game that thinks I'm mafia. can you stop dodging and explain it to me. obi is cop with green on hf. hf who is also cop has red on hopeless simple lets just lynch hopeless or liam cause why not You video mafia guys always have the weirdest sense of roleclaims. This is not true. Show nested quote +Alright. cool
I didn't want to get so heated about things but the only thing that stops me voting hope is the fact that you are the one pushing him and everything you do just seems scummy. And this is why you need to get yourself out of the tunnel.
I'm trying but your scumminess keeps drawing me back in
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On October 10 2014 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Do you think a mafia obi would be this annoying instead of just trying to appease you and push a mislynch on hopeless?
sorry I don't understand what you mean
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On October 10 2014 06:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 06:08 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 06:06 Holyflare wrote:
Do you think a mafia obi would be this annoying instead of just trying to appease you and push a mislynch on hopeless? sorry I don't understand what you mean If obi was mafia and like you are assuming, is pushing a mislynch on hopeless, why would he argue and be this annoying instead of just explaining the first time and thus getting you off him onto his mislynch?
He did try to explain but I pointed out I needed an example that made obi flip his read on you.
possible explanation is he can't find an example because there isn't one.
I'm kind of conflicted because I am filter diving hope at the moment and a lot of stuff I don't like.
We share some of the same reads but his early play is weak and he hasn't contributed in a meaningful way.
I don't agree with the reasons obi is pushing him for though.
Obi has done a lot of scummy things that I can't ignore.
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Alright going to sleep again.
I think I need to reevaluate obi tomorrow when I can look with a clearer head.
Still think he is scum for now.
Lian second scum most likely.
not really happy with dam's contribution today , need to hear what slam thinks about obi/hope.
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Alright read through the thread going to give some thoughts again
@hf - so the reason I didn't like what dam had done was that his post on lian seemed to be a copy of storr's reasons to lynch lian. Like yeh lian has been scummy so why do you need to do a giant post about it now? Also at the time he said obi was playing magical and was really town and I just didn't agree with that read. So that was what I didnt like about it.
For dam
On October 10 2014 08:07 Damdred wrote:
If i was so into tunneling i would be going for bats right now honesty has the one who voted me free all. However i think you re decently scullery now you are soft pushing hoping for support.
I've pressured people asked questions nd did a case. So not as unless slyly make out. Why he you singing?
And in not ignoring you blazing up respond in depth when i hit a comp or better signl
I mean why would you tunnel on bs at all I don't understand that?
I Still believe dam is town though. Last game I played he got pinged out for a quiet d1 and d2 and he used the same defence he is using here. Maybe he has an inflated sense of his contribution to the game though.
For slam
His big post was the first serious thing he posted , I can't comment on the thing hapa said about uncommon knowledge and lying, I want to know what lie hf pointed out. But I like the vote and slam is probably town.
Will update on lian. obi and hope soon
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Also I can't see why storr has any votes at all can someone explain it to me
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For obi, I like a lot of the points BH has brought up about him. His unwillingness to defend himself seems very scummy to me when I read what happened, he still hasn't explained his flip on hf to me. I think BH is town so pretty happy with my scum read on obi still.
for lian, what I don't like is that his defence is mostly based on "you are tunneling" yep if you play scummy people are going to ask questions , pressure you and try to get you lynched. Deal with it.
He also calls out storr for not doing anything which is not the impression I have of storr at all.
Also he town reads hope, why? has he been super active doing stuff?
hope has thrown out some reads but I can't see a reason why. Obi is town, why? dam scum, why?
I just see a lack of effort and no basis for reads.
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On October 10 2014 21:30 Damdred wrote:
In HF I trust, and I realize I can't get lia lynched today unto the other person I think is scum then.
Kel, I never said I was tunneling him. Infact i'm pretty sure besides that one post and calling him out for not doing anything i've not tunneled on him really. Also I have done things this game, my case is close to storrs but I still feel it scum reads him for slightly different reasons, the list post reason is the same but meh. And I wanted to make a case and try to get my top scum read lynched.
I know you never said you were tunneling him, but you said if you were going to to tunnel it wuld be on bs, why?
Like I said hf asked me what I didn't like and I didn't like the list post which felt like storr's. As for pushing on lian, I think that is towny so.
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On October 10 2014 21:39 Damdred wrote:
Lian said that I was tunneling him for being called out, if i was really lost in omgus I would be on BS because he was voting me and he also called me out in the thread. I really don't care about being called out, all hes done is soft pushed me without any real push behind it no reason to get tunneled over that.
k thanks for clarifying that.
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On October 10 2014 21:39 Damdred wrote:
Lian said that I was tunneling him for being called out, if i was really lost in omgus I would be on BS because he was voting me and he also called me out in the thread. I really don't care about being called out, all hes done is soft pushed me without any real push behind it no reason to get tunneled over that.
Yeh I don't think you are that tunneled on him tbh he has been scummy and again I think his accusation of you is poor.
Reading your post again you do bring up some new scummy things he has done post storr's case including the casting doubt on the vigi claim and how he discredits people/ accuses storr/palmar.
pretty sure you are town.
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has anyone stepped in to defend lian at any point?
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On October 11 2014 00:01 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 23:54 KelsierSC wrote:
has anyone stepped in to defend lian at any point? HF/bats maybe more. thing is people are willing to call him scum, even agree with points made against him, how ever no one seems to be putting their vote with their mouth. (hopeless day 1 for example)
so do you think no one putting their vote with their mouth makes lian scummy or town?
It feels towny to me.
no one really defending him, other players happy to nudge you on towards lynching him
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On October 10 2014 23:36 batsnacks wrote:
It sounds really reasonable.
But
I don't think the reason store is tunneling Liam is because Liam is new here. Also last game the new person was much, much different than Liam. That guy got really bitter and shut down under pressure. Liam is not shutting down.
So, that sort of nullifies Liam's logic. Even though it sounds really good.
It's too late in the game to be playing the "I'm new" card, and what Liam just wrote is more or less a really wordy iteration of the "I'm new" card.
I don't think lian is playing a "i'm new card"
his reason for reading storr as town is because he looked at a previous game and saw it was storr's usual play style.
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On October 11 2014 00:42 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah but I don't think store's reason for scum reading Liam is because he's new. And that's what Liam said.
yeh I suppose he did in as many words.
I want to know what storr thinks about the unvote and flip.
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On October 11 2014 00:51 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 00:50 Holyflare wrote:
All you've done is stick to damd/liam being scummy and then thrown out these free town reads conveniently and you still call them scummy before even reading everyone else. how does it matter whether I've read everyone else?
if damd/lian are the 2 scum then why is dam making some huge post on lian being mafia and lian constnatly picking dam as one of his top scum reads.
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Hope the only reason i town read you is that obi is the one pushing to lynch you
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