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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1065
On October 09 2014 02:40 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Nha. Palmar looks okay atm and I think he's kinda town. I just think it'd be funny if he woke up lynched again.

In all seriousness, I don't particularly care for this OO lynch but I doubt I have any say in the matter. I don't really see any targets of mine that people will lynch any time soon.

I just really don't like plynches for this reason. Even if they somehow hit scum (they never do) I always get a little frustrated because I feel like nothing gets accomplished by doing so.


Ok obi, just for arguments sake i'll take the stance that you were making a joke because you did not like the policy lynch. Could you elaborate on the bolded portion of this post for me.

Just a quick explanation of who you would want to lynch tomorrow and why, was it just hf or someone else.


Read my filter. This was already explained.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 17:47 GMT
#1067
Alternatively alternatively, BH's analysis was actually really bad and he's mostly just rehashing stuff other people have said.

Why do people have him as town?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 17:56 GMT
#1074
On October 09 2014 02:49 Damdred wrote:
BH seems interested, and is actually doing things and pushing his lynch today. Normally when hes scum in almost every scum game i've seen or read, he makes excuses complains and only posts during the time hes not "busy". here he is the opposite he has been in the thread, has argued not complained and not made excuses for his absence plus he did lynch scum oo day one and put rng on him even before he made his entrance into the thread.


The RNG lynch is not a tell. You can't use this to read BH because he does this regardless of alignment.

When analyzing someone, even if they're interested, you need to understand that reading the quality of their arguments and how they're pushing them is part of figuring out if someone is mafia. You hosted the last game I was in where Superbia was scum. Think: he was making big posts and he looked like he was interested. Did that make him town?

BH is nitpicking into my filter and disregarding every single other thing that I've done this game. He's focused on a tiny aspect of my play (namely that people think I tried to derail the lynch, which is up in the air despite me arguing my real intentions over and over) instead of trying to gather any sort of perspective in regards to what I'm doing. It takes an incredibly scummy mindset to only look for mistakes instead of going through a filter and piecing together someone's motives.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 17:57 GMT
#1075
On October 09 2014 02:54 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you focusing on people off the oo wagon if those are the people you thought would be mafia obi...???


I am. I just talked to Kelsier about this.

I have several people I'm discussing right now and I don't need more people jumping down my throat about stupid stuff.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 17:59 GMT
#1076
I feel like grilled cheese.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:01 GMT
#1080
On October 09 2014 03:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 02:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 02:54 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you focusing on people off the oo wagon if those are the people you thought would be mafia obi...???


I am. I just talked to Kelsier about this.

I have several people I'm discussing right now and I don't need more people jumping down my throat about stupid stuff.


you said that you have no information on them which isn't really true because you already wanted to lynch grack for something else and then you jumped straight to a bh conspiracy instead of picking out which players were most likely scum out of your list of people off the wagon


I didn't "immediately jump" to a conspiracy theory. He came in and posted bad analysis and it affected my read.

What the fuck.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:05 GMT
#1082
On October 09 2014 03:02 Holyflare wrote:
2 of your scum reads are then on the OO wagon so really what you said earlier was a crock of shit


Which I already admitted it was because I changed my mind when you started talking about OO's modus operandi.

Really I could stand to lynch several people right now, OO wagon or no.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:10 GMT
#1088
On October 09 2014 03:05 Damdred wrote:
snip


Grack posted bad analysis and I changed my read. He went from "approaching a situation with reasonable doubt" to "this guy is scum because he didn't read my filter" which is bad analysis. There's no "non-reason" that I can see, so if you could elaborate on that point, that would be cool because I'm apparently not in the know.

The rest of my lynch targets I have either talked over with Kelsier as of the past hour or so, or I've outright told you.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:11 GMT
#1089
On October 09 2014 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
lian is an excellent cop check btw


Why do you think this?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:12 GMT
#1092
On October 09 2014 03:11 Damdred wrote:
Then talk about lian then, since you were interested in talking about him obi and he was in your list post and what he did didn't sit well with you but you still fail to mention him again and i can't find him in your filter.


xpost
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:17 GMT
#1095
On October 09 2014 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 03:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
lian is an excellent cop check btw


Why do you think this?


i think it's pretty obvious if you were reading mine or bh's (your scum reads filters), it's because of how he handled the OO scum read and didn't vote him on principle but then gave other scum suspects anyway but then voted him right at the end when it didn't really matter anyway


I'd love to.

Right after I stop getting shoved through a fucking meat grinder over every little god damn thing I've said.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:18 GMT
#1096
On October 09 2014 03:15 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 03:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:06 Holyflare wrote:
lian is an excellent cop check btw


Why do you think this?


i think it's pretty obvious if you were reading mine or bh's (your scum reads filters), it's because of how he handled the OO scum read and didn't vote him on principle but then gave other scum suspects anyway but then voted him right at the end when it didn't really matter anyway


Actually, I already commented on this myself and then you critiqued me on some other meaningless bullshit.

So you might want to read my filter if that's the angle you're going to push.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:22 GMT
#1098
On October 09 2014 03:21 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:05 Damdred wrote:
snip


Grack posted bad analysis and I changed my read. He went from "approaching a situation with reasonable doubt" to "this guy is scum because he didn't read my filter" which is bad analysis. There's no "non-reason" that I can see, so if you could elaborate on that point, that would be cool because I'm apparently not in the know.

The rest of my lynch targets I have either talked over with Kelsier as of the past hour or so, or I've outright told you.

My reason wasn't actually that you didn't read the thread but that you were complaining about nobody posting trying to progress the thread while not having read the thread - which I found fake and scummy

Palmar didn't read the thread but I didn't care because he wasn't complaining about low content in the game.

*Kind of like how mafia might show up after a lynch and complain that it was a bad lynch while having done nothing to try to change the lynch earlier,


id nothing to get the lynch off of what you perceive to be his partner.

Yes. Very scum. 10/10
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:24 GMT
#1101
On October 09 2014 03:23 Damdred wrote:
So how are you reading loan mow obi? I know you didn't like how he used his vote but why not cop check him? Is he scummy or not to you


It hasn't changed. I've posted absolutely nothing to indicate that I've changed it at any point so I would think that my read on him is relatively similar to what it was.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:27 GMT
#1104
On October 09 2014 03:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 03:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:21 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:15 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 03:05 Damdred wrote:
snip


Grack posted bad analysis and I changed my read. He went from "approaching a situation with reasonable doubt" to "this guy is scum because he didn't read my filter" which is bad analysis. There's no "non-reason" that I can see, so if you could elaborate on that point, that would be cool because I'm apparently not in the know.

The rest of my lynch targets I have either talked over with Kelsier as of the past hour or so, or I've outright told you.

My reason wasn't actually that you didn't read the thread but that you were complaining about nobody posting trying to progress the thread while not having read the thread - which I found fake and scummy

Palmar didn't read the thread but I didn't care because he wasn't complaining about low content in the game.

*Kind of like how mafia might show up after a lynch and complain that it was a bad lynch while having done nothing to try to change the lynch earlier,


id nothing to get the lynch off of what you perceive to be his partner.

Yes. Very scum. 10/10

Wat


You're accusing me of complaining about the lynch while doing nothing to change it.

I did nothing to divert the lynch off of scum.

Thus I am scum.

Qed.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:29 GMT
#1107
Oh. Okay.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:36 GMT
#1109
On October 09 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote:
The only reason i keep asking obi is that i'm on my phone and its getting really hard to find anything and trying to filter dive so if you could link me to the post where your read is if i missed it it would be really appreciated so i could quit wasteing both of our times


You already quoted and bolded it.

That was my read. It hasn't changed.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:41 GMT
#1111
On October 09 2014 03:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
The thing I noticed about Lian is that he's withholding his vote on OO because of "principles." (????) Aside from harping on the BH shit which didn't mean anything, I don't like how he's arbitrarily holding out on voting for someone he perceives as scummy.


If you mean this, I have a few problems with it. Like whats your conclusion besides you do not like it based on his filter and everything else. And why would you seem surprised or against hat he deserves to get cop checked?


I don't seem anything with him being cop checked. I think it's a good idea.

Really I don't know what you're doing because all I did was ask a question about Holyflare's reasoning, being that his current method of attack is to randomly drop names.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:45 GMT
#1113
It's because I feel most of the answers to the questions you're asking can be found in my filter. I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when you say that I'm not drawing conclusions because I feel as if my conclusions are fairly obvious by looking at the focus of my posts.

I'm sorry if I'm coming across as brash or rude or whatever, but that's just how I do things.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 18:59 GMT
#1115
AWESOME.

I AM GOING TO GO PLAY STREET FIGHTER NOW. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING LESS SUSPICIOUS OF ME.
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