|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
I was just saying that was something hf had done.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 03:58 Damdred wrote:
I'm back for a bit if anyone has questions and to kel about why obi is town.
I have a good bit of experience with Obi, he can correct me but I think we've played 5-8 games together. I know you do not like looking at other games to give yourself a bench mark about how to read your scum. However if you would look at Storm Mafia 2 (obi was scum), 2p2 (Obi was scum) his day one lurkiness was there, however he did nothing in those games to really bring attention to himself he brought attention to himself here. When he did get pressured as scum he retreated or made little comments without doing much else. here he sat around the whole time he was attacked and bantered back and forth and actually showed that he cared and honestly argued and fought his way out of his lynch today.
And He looks really towny today in the way hes pressuring people and talking to him. Overall I think hes town. Theres a small chance that Obi could be scum in some universe that i'm not part of but I think until he does something stupid or claims scum hes town.
The way I read it all he has done is try and throw things at hope and wait till something sticks. I have asked him several times to defend himself over this and just sidestepped and ignored the issue.
So now that your top mafia, hf, has said he isn't actually the cop and so doesn't have a check on hope. you still want to push on it and won't consider anything else.
He still hasn't addressed these points.
why didn't he bother to question hf being cop?
if hf was his top mafia surely he should be suspicous of it, no he just says "yeh you are right lets lynch hope" right, makes total sense to sheep your top scum read.
Then after hf reveals he isn't cop , obi has to come up with a reason for hope being mafia. If you read what he says most of it is.
"oh my god you so scummy", "lynch you now" "why no vote scum"
In terms of real reasons for hope being scum they are, apparently
a) he asked hf to explain a read
b) hope didn't stop obi and hf having a fight.
I don't see any reason for this making someone scum.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
He also criticises hope for having not a strong reason for a town read
Not really. Saying that Holyflare is town because it's easier than trying to read him is basically the epitome of making up reasons to townread someone.
So you're still scum and you still need to get lynched.
Then his reason for now town reading HF (who was his top scum)
magic
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
Is slam here?
Slam what do you think about hope/obi
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:51 batsnacks wrote:
Yeah obi is town
I don't know what you're doing keyser soze
pointing out a myriad of legit reasons why someone is scum
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 04:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Tbh I could actually explain my townread on HF, but I've been overcome by the forces of lazy and my filter is already huge so stop bothering me.
wow
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oh come on.
I've only been lynched three times as town, and two of those were newbie games.
can you get to the part where you defend yourself please.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually, I'm going to just drop this argument because I know it's going to lead to bad things.
holy what in the fuck
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:10 batsnacks wrote:
Obi you're giving Chelsea high blood pressure you should explain your HF read before he starts having complications
who?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets.
at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him.
I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people.
then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read.
your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand."
I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
let alone not even question him today
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him. I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people. then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read. your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand." I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much. Why is it that you believe I explicitly believe his claim? I have a strong case on Hopeless and I'm going after him full force. I don't know why you think all this tertiary stuff is important.
because you fucking voted on hopeless immediately afterwards what the fuck.
if your top mafia read decides to lynch someone you think sheeping the read is a good idea?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him. I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people. then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read. your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand." I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much. Why is it that you believe I explicitly believe his claim? I have a strong case on Hopeless and I'm going after him full force. I don't know why you think all this tertiary stuff is important.
still waiting on the strong case btw.
you also didn't go full force straight away.
you asked this
On October 09 2014 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually.
Can I get some opinions on Hopeless? It's like he's one of those players that a bunch of people are suspicious of but nobody wants to pull the trigger. Thoughts. Go.
like hey, i need someone other people to go on this.
then after 3 people voted, one of whom was your top fucking mafia
then you go after him
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him. I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people. then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read. your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand." I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much. Why is it that you believe I explicitly believe his claim? I have a strong case on Hopeless and I'm going after him full force. I don't know why you think all this tertiary stuff is important. because you fucking voted on hopeless immediately afterwards what the fuck. if your top mafia read decides to lynch someone you think sheeping the read is a good idea? He isn't my top mafia read. This read changed some time ago. This is why I am voting Hopeless, my new top mafia read. Do you want me to hold your hand?
what? hold my hand?
at the time you pushed on hope , hf was still one of your top mafia reads, there is nothing in the night that could make you switch from top scum to town. your reasoning doesnt make sense.
yet you dont even question the fact your top mafia is voting the same person as you.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
It's like all of the words I typed regarding Hopeless up and vanished into the ether just so you could attack me.
no they are still there and shall live on as an embarrassment to your family.
your case on him is.
he asked hf to explain a read
he didn't break up the fight.
SO SCUMMY SO SCUMMY
LYNCH
not that strong
certainly not as strong as my case on you.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:29 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him. I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people. then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read. your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand." I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much. Why is it that you believe I explicitly believe his claim? I have a strong case on Hopeless and I'm going after him full force. I don't know why you think all this tertiary stuff is important. still waiting on the strong case btw. you also didn't go full force straight away. you asked this On October 09 2014 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually.
Can I get some opinions on Hopeless? It's like he's one of those players that a bunch of people are suspicious of but nobody wants to pull the trigger. Thoughts. Go. like hey, i need someone other people to go on this. then after 3 people voted, one of whom was your top fucking mafia then you go after him He isn't my top mafia.
at the time he had to have been high up there
you know...because you voted on him
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:30 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him. I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people. then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read. your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand." I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much. Why is it that you believe I explicitly believe his claim? I have a strong case on Hopeless and I'm going after him full force. I don't know why you think all this tertiary stuff is important. because you fucking voted on hopeless immediately afterwards what the fuck. if your top mafia read decides to lynch someone you think sheeping the read is a good idea? He isn't my top mafia read. This read changed some time ago. This is why I am voting Hopeless, my new top mafia read. Do you want me to hold your hand? what? hold my hand? at the time you pushed on hope , hf was still one of your top mafia reads, there is nothing in the night that could make you switch from top scum to town. your reasoning doesnt make sense. yet you dont even question the fact your top mafia is voting the same person as you. No he wasn't. Here, let me walk you through this again: HF pressured me and changed his read based on my reaction and responses and showed a good level of understanding towards the points I was trying to make. This is why I thought he was town, and why I still think he is town. It's like I explicitly have to walk you through every little crevasse in my brain just so you can go away.
but you voted on him so that is absolute garbage
again your read is just generic gibberish, I don't see anything in the night that makes you switch hf from top scum to town.
You weren't even a tiny bit suspicous or show any concern about it.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:32 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:29 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him. I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people. then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read. your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand." I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much. Why is it that you believe I explicitly believe his claim? I have a strong case on Hopeless and I'm going after him full force. I don't know why you think all this tertiary stuff is important. still waiting on the strong case btw. you also didn't go full force straight away. you asked this On October 09 2014 13:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Actually.
Can I get some opinions on Hopeless? It's like he's one of those players that a bunch of people are suspicious of but nobody wants to pull the trigger. Thoughts. Go. like hey, i need someone other people to go on this. then after 3 people voted, one of whom was your top fucking mafia then you go after him He isn't my top mafia. at the time he had to have been high up there you know...because you voted on him Yeah, and if I could've unvoted him during the night sequence, I would have. Seriously. You are the only person that thinks I'm mafia at this point and you're reaching new heights of annoying.
sorry I know mafia don't like being pressured.
give me good examples of hf putting in loads of effort, pressuring people and showing understanding that make you lose all suspicion of him?
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 05:34 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:30 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:24 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:18 KelsierSC wrote:On October 10 2014 05:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 10 2014 05:06 Holyflare wrote:
You should probably explain your town read on me at least Easy; your reads are consistent with the thread and you're putting more effort into pressuring people/gathering information instead of dropping poorly thought out meta reads a la almost every scum game you've played ever. The way you're interacting with the thread reflects a desire to understand rather than a desire to look for easy lynch targets. at the end of d1 he was your top lynch, you voted him. I read through hf n1, I didn't really see a huge amount of effort/pressuring people. then d2 starts and you are happy to believe his claim and sheep his read. your town read is just generic gibberish, "i like his effort, he looks like wants to understand." I see absolutely nothing in the night that could have made you switch so much. Why is it that you believe I explicitly believe his claim? I have a strong case on Hopeless and I'm going after him full force. I don't know why you think all this tertiary stuff is important. because you fucking voted on hopeless immediately afterwards what the fuck. if your top mafia read decides to lynch someone you think sheeping the read is a good idea? He isn't my top mafia read. This read changed some time ago. This is why I am voting Hopeless, my new top mafia read. Do you want me to hold your hand? what? hold my hand? at the time you pushed on hope , hf was still one of your top mafia reads, there is nothing in the night that could make you switch from top scum to town. your reasoning doesnt make sense. yet you dont even question the fact your top mafia is voting the same person as you. No he wasn't. Here, let me walk you through this again: HF pressured me and changed his read based on my reaction and responses and showed a good level of understanding towards the points I was trying to make. This is why I thought he was town, and why I still think he is town. It's like I explicitly have to walk you through every little crevasse in my brain just so you can go away. but you voted on him so that is absolute garbage again your read is just generic gibberish, I don't see anything in the night that makes you switch hf from top scum to town. You weren't even a tiny bit suspicous or show any concern about it. Rofl, this is so dumb. You can just continue to tunnel me until Hopeless flips scum. Then you can stop bothering me. I have nothing more to say to you since nothing I say will ever convince you otherwise.
no give me examples and I will honestly reevaluate
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On October 10 2014 05:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't care if you reevaluate. You're pissing me off and I don't give a shit about your vote or opinion anymore. I can get my lynch without you.
so you can't explain why hf turned from your top mafia, to beyond suspicion town.
ok
what is that stupid shit you say when you post something stupid?
oh yeh
QED
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
