• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:12
CET 08:12
KST 16:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)6Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns6[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
WardiTV Winter Cup $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026 OSC Season 13 World Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1811 users

Fantasy Football (FFL) Mini - Page 6

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 16 Next All
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:39 GMT
#1419
On October 09 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.


Didn't he vote OO though?


RIght when it was clear OO was going to be lynched.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:40 GMT
#1420
On October 09 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.


Didn't he vote OO though?


But I didn't like how he said he would rather lynch storr/damd over them.

And his reason for not voting OO at that time was bad imo.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:47 GMT
#1423
On October 09 2014 22:46 Damdred wrote:
Why are you so sure that i'm town Kel? Also if you are so sure that I am town why put me down into your lynch-able people?

Love you to bats


your lynch-able because you are in the OO vote and that is where I think the 3rd mafia is.

I'm sure you are town because your play is exactly how I remember it from last game.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:48 GMT
#1426
To be clear you fit the criteria of who I want to look at/lynch but I think you are town
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:52 GMT
#1429
On October 09 2014 22:47 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 22:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.


Didn't he vote OO though?


But I didn't like how he said he would rather lynch storr/damd over them.

And his reason for not voting OO at that time was bad imo.


Damdred was scummy d1 though... And store was tunneling him pretty hard. He also scum read palmar, which is also easy to understand IMO.

I think him wanting to lynch them makes sense from town perspective. The OO wagon did look like a weird policy lynch for a long time because OO never posted.

If you can tell me why you don't like him scum reading damd/store/palmar I will probably take you off my lynch list.


well we probably disagree on the timing but to me it was along time after the RNG and OO was a clear scum, like it was very obvious and to say that he wants to lynch damd/storr/palmar over OO because of his own principal. I really didn't like that.

I didn't like him scum reading storr because storr was clearly town to me, he had been active. yeh he was single minded on lian but I don't like the attitude that "he is scum because he called me scum"

For Damd, Again I have personal reasons for reading Damd as town, I guess from lian's perspective he could be scummy, but I don't see why he was a better lynch than OO at all.

And palmar hadn't said anything at that point, it is easy to say "he is inactive, he is scum" lynch him instead of OO


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:00 GMT
#1431
On October 09 2014 22:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Hah!

Kelsier caught on!

Tell me how I could be scum I will destroy


what did I catch on to?

As I said, I think the third mafia hid his vote on OO and you fit the criteria of that.

I need to re read you again to be honest, I remember giving you a town pass on d1 but I don't think you have said anything stand out.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:07 GMT
#1433
On October 09 2014 23:03 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 22:52 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:47 batsnacks wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:40 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.


Didn't he vote OO though?


But I didn't like how he said he would rather lynch storr/damd over them.

And his reason for not voting OO at that time was bad imo.


Damdred was scummy d1 though... And store was tunneling him pretty hard. He also scum read palmar, which is also easy to understand IMO.

I think him wanting to lynch them makes sense from town perspective. The OO wagon did look like a weird policy lynch for a long time because OO never posted.

If you can tell me why you don't like him scum reading damd/store/palmar I will probably take you off my lynch list.


well we probably disagree on the timing but to me it was along time after the RNG and OO was a clear scum, like it was very obvious and to say that he wants to lynch damd/storr/palmar over OO because of his own principal. I really didn't like that.

I didn't like him scum reading storr because storr was clearly town to me, he had been active. yeh he was single minded on lian but I don't like the attitude that "he is scum because he called me scum"

For Damd, Again I have personal reasons for reading Damd as town, I guess from lian's perspective he could be scummy, but I don't see why he was a better lynch than OO at all.

And palmar hadn't said anything at that point, it is easy to say "he is inactive, he is scum" lynch him instead of OO




I disagree OO was "obviously" scum. He was obviously scummy but I wouldn't have been wowed and amazed if he flipped town. I went to sleep believing an obi lynch was possible that's why I left my vote there.

Store was focused on Liam almost exclusively and his huge case was pretty early in the day for a case that big. It's also a little convenient that store was sure Liam wasn't a smurf before he posted the case, or any reads at all on Liam. It's very easy for me to understand liam scum reading him.

Palmar wasn't actually that lurky and the first thing he said was "cba to read." Of course this is scummy if you've never played with palmar before.


Palmar was lurky when lian said he wanted to lynch him he had only said one thing at that point.

He specifically said storr hadn't done anything worth mentioning and that was was just not true.
I really liked storr's case and I think he was very town the way he went about it.

I think we disagree on OO but to me he was obvious
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:08 GMT
#1435
slam your filter is such a cluster fuck
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:09 GMT
#1436
On October 09 2014 23:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So we are still lynching Hopeless.


Not if you try and lead it.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:10 GMT
#1439
On October 09 2014 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are people defending someone that isn't even playing?

Look at his filter and tell me that's a strong opinionated townie. It's basically one guy doing the absolute bare minimum to get by without giving his opinion on anything. Off the top of my head, I remember he has a "kind of" scumread on Lian who has actually been doing stuff.

Lynch Hopeless. Lynch him faster.


I will hard defend anyone that you think is scum
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:11 GMT
#1440
On October 09 2014 23:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 23:09 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So we are still lynching Hopeless.


Not if you try and lead it.


If you're not going to follow me when I'm leading on mafia then you can just stop posting entirely.


why do you think you have any right to lead anything.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:11 GMT
#1442
On October 09 2014 23:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 23:10 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Why are people defending someone that isn't even playing?

Look at his filter and tell me that's a strong opinionated townie. It's basically one guy doing the absolute bare minimum to get by without giving his opinion on anything. Off the top of my head, I remember he has a "kind of" scumread on Lian who has actually been doing stuff.

Lynch Hopeless. Lynch him faster.


I will hard defend anyone that you think is scum


Then continue to be bad at this game.


ugh , very classy
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:36 GMT
#1455
On October 09 2014 23:25 StorrZerg wrote:
thanks for the great input badsnacks any other takers...


Seemed confused.

he didn't believe grak or hf. and thought mafia killed oats.

I understand not believing hf from his POV, but the other parts he just seems confused.

I'm not sure it is alignment indicative tbh.

maybe it makes him a confused townie if anything.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 14:52 GMT
#1459
On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.



Unimportant.


fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday.

If you want to change the subject thats fine

[] talk about liancourt
[] talk about hopeless
[] other [insert topic]


I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch.

And I don't think I'm going to change my mind.


So now that your top mafia, hf, has said he isn't actually the cop and so doesn't have a check on hope. you still want to push on it and won't consider anything else.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 16:25 GMT
#1479
Obi you didn't answer my question
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 16:27 GMT
#1485
On October 10 2014 01:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 01:25 KelsierSC wrote:
Obi you didn't answer my question


I'm ignoring whatever it is because I'm sure it's not really important.

it is very important and i want you to answer it now
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 16:37 GMT
#1494
On October 09 2014 23:52 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.



Unimportant.


fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday.

If you want to change the subject thats fine

[] talk about liancourt
[] talk about hopeless
[] other [insert topic]


I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch.

And I don't think I'm going to change my mind.


So now that your top mafia, hf, has said he isn't actually the cop and so doesn't have a check on hope. you still want to push on it and won't consider anything else.


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 16:39 GMT
#1497
Obi still hasn't answered this.

seems like he now has to find reasons to call.hope mafia none of them are convincing. Hope asked hf to explain a read and didn't play referee between obi and hf so he is mafia? Other reasons aren't true. When did hope scum read hf?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 16:46 GMT
#1504
On October 10 2014 01:45 Damdred wrote:
Lunch for me please post thoughts about my case, i'll answer or brain storm when I get back but i think hes scum.

Obi is town though so you guys be nice to him


hmm your case about lian has been made by store already it seems to me.

why is obi town?
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 16:47 GMT
#1506
On October 10 2014 01:46 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 01:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 10 2014 01:38 batsnacks wrote:
On October 10 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 10 2014 01:36 batsnacks wrote:
Where did my post go?

Oh well maybe I'm wrong hopeless but I don't this what you just wrote about holy flare is consistent with what actually happened d1.

as in most of my posts to him were of the wtf are you doing variety?


And you just said that it's better to just auto-town read him than try to analyze. So that's not consistent. Or I'm missing something maybe.

Its mildly inconsistent I guess. Makes sense in my head.


If you already answered this sorry but

Was there something specific that HF said d1 that made you say wtf? I'm trying to think of what would make you say wtf if you're auto-town reading someone. All I remember HF doing d1 was sort of pressuring oats early then staying on OO for the rest of the day.

hf and obi had a fight
Zerg for Life
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft558
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 6641
Rain 3335
Larva 476
Zeus 150
JulyZerg 81
ZergMaN 71
Hyun 57
ggaemo 34
soO 32
Nal_rA 31
[ Show more ]
Noble 17
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm198
febbydoto15
League of Legends
JimRising 805
C9.Mang0532
Counter-Strike
fl0m5825
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox594
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick34632
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 113
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH233
• practicex 54
• Sammyuel 14
• Adnapsc2 11
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 70
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4996
• Lourlo1016
• Stunt393
Other Games
• Scarra1912
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
2h 49m
Wardi Open
4h 49m
Big Gabe XPERIONCRAFT
5h 49m
AI Arena Tournament
12h 49m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 2h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 5h
IPSL
1d 12h
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
All Star Teams
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W3
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Big Gabe Cup #3
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.