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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 21:50 GMT
#1623
Palmar I will likely shoot you tonight if you don't do anything today
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 21:55 GMT
#1627
I'm going to interpret that as "I will not do anything this game and I am also afraid of being shot"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 21:56 GMT
#1628
I'm telling you right now you can't scare me away from shooting you Palmar. Do something that makes me not want to shoot you and I won't shoot you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 22:04 GMT
#1633
On October 10 2014 06:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 06:56 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm telling you right now you can't scare me away from shooting you Palmar. Do something that makes me not want to shoot you and I won't shoot you.

I don't care if you shoot me, I just want to make sure rest of town understands that you need to be lynched if you do because it's objectively the wrong play to shoot me. I always defend myself when I'm under threat of a lynch as town which is a good use of time.

You didn't take any time to even consider whether I could be town and shooting you. I honestly know that you actually AREN'T egotistical enough to think that anyone considering shooting you is scum when you're doing absolutely nothing. All you're trying to do right now is make me afraid to shoot you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 22:12 GMT
#1636
You've made no effort to solve the game? You just drop in look at random posts/things that have happened and make reads based off of them but you've never tried to actually talk to anybody at all to figure out their alignment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 23:08 GMT
#1660
On October 10 2014 08:07 Damdred wrote:
If i was so into tunneling i would be going for bats right now honesty has the one who voted me free all. However i think you re decently scullery now you are soft pushing hoping for support.

I've pressured people asked questions nd did a case. So not as unless slyly make out. Why he you singing?

And in not ignoring you blazing up respond in depth when i hit a comp or better signl

hahaha the auto correct is so bad it looks like a slam post
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 23:27 GMT
#1675
I can definitely understand ows rethinking his scum read on HF. At the start of the day HF was mostly just yelling at him/Oats and other things have happened since then
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 09 2014 23:42 GMT
#1691
BH I've never really at all believed that was a serious attempt to derail the lynch from OWS. Would mafia really try to save their partner after he did nothing all day but show up at the final hour and call people hitlers? I definitely wouldn't.

I basically just let you yell about OWS backpedaling because I thought OWS was scummy for other reasons and didn't care if you wanted to vote him for backpedaling
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 19:43 GMT
#1896
Follow the maybebutmostdefinitelynot red check to victory!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 19:45 GMT
#1897
I already knew that this was what BH would do for the rest of the day from the moment he said that backtrack before OO lynch
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 19:46 GMT
#1900
I don't think anyone even wrote a case on Hopeless. We just tunneled him until he gave up
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 20:09 GMT
#1920
I'll read your case and comment in a bit Hopeless
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 20:52 GMT
#1958
Ok Hopeless I read your case and there are some points that I agree with.

I don't like that Damdred never made an effort to try to get Lian lynched today. When I write out a case on somebody I'm doing it because I want to try to convince people to lynch him today rather than just to show that I am suspicious of somebody. It's not like HF wrote out an amazing case and the lynch was decided for the day. I could see Damdred as scum choose to not push Lian today because he doesn't want to get on HF's bad side.

The points I dislike:
The bussing posts. It's mostly just speculation. I could reasonably see a townie being suspicious of somebody for voting themselves after being RNGed and for his reaction. (I wasn't suspicious of OO for those posts but I could see someone else suspecting him)

the post where he tries to get OO to contribute doesn't have to be made in thread; He could just tell him to do something in the scum QT if he is mafia. There's no real reason why Damdred's vote on OO is him bussing OO compared to anyone else's vote on OO. In fact your vote is the one i think is most likely to be a bus vote because you actually liked OO's tone at the start of the game and you were fighting policy lynches earlier in the day.

The BH points are quite bad in my opinion. it's pretty clear Damdred wasn't trying to make a suspicion of BH in that post and I don't mind the insufferable post either.

Overall I'm not convinced that Damdred is a better lynch than you. I think a better case could be made for you being scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 21:01 GMT
#1962
On October 11 2014 05:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 05:52 Grackaroni wrote:
Ok Hopeless I read your case and there are some points that I agree with.

I don't like that Damdred never made an effort to try to get Lian lynched today. When I write out a case on somebody I'm doing it because I want to try to convince people to lynch him today rather than just to show that I am suspicious of somebody. It's not like HF wrote out an amazing case and the lynch was decided for the day. I could see Damdred as scum choose to not push Lian today because he doesn't want to get on HF's bad side.

The points I dislike:
The bussing posts. It's mostly just speculation. I could reasonably see a townie being suspicious of somebody for voting themselves after being RNGed and for his reaction. (I wasn't suspicious of OO for those posts but I could see someone else suspecting him)

the post where he tries to get OO to contribute doesn't have to be made in thread; He could just tell him to do something in the scum QT if he is mafia. There's no real reason why Damdred's vote on OO is him bussing OO compared to anyone else's vote on OO. In fact your vote is the one i think is most likely to be a bus vote because you actually liked OO's tone at the start of the game and you were fighting policy lynches earlier in the day.

The BH points are quite bad in my opinion. it's pretty clear Damdred wasn't trying to make a suspicion of BH in that post and I don't mind the insufferable post either.

Overall I'm not convinced that Damdred is a better lynch than you. I think a better case could be made for you being scum.

Where did I actually try to STOP OO's lynch? I busted HF's balls a bit because he explicitly said not to let him pursue policy lynches. And I did like OO's tone at the start...then he did nothing at all.

you didn't try to stop the lynch. You were bitching for a bit that we were just doing a policy lynch and then you jumped on the wagon later in the day.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 21:03 GMT
#1964
Which is why I think your vote is a bus vote.

-Likes OO's tone
-Dislikes that we're policy lynching a lurker

. . .

Votes OO because he's lurking
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 21:16 GMT
#1975
I've mostly been sheeping HF that was my main reason for scum reading you.

I think there's actually a point in your favor that you aren't scum reading Obi seeing as he looks like the only person being truly considered as a counter wagon at the moment.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 21:21 GMT
#1978
On October 11 2014 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 00:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.



Unimportant.


fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday.

If you want to change the subject thats fine

[] talk about liancourt
[] talk about hopeless
[] other [insert topic]


I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch.

And I don't think I'm going to change my mind.


then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation.

liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1.
hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire"

yet dives on

On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game.

yeah i'll probably end up here anyways

##Vote: ObviousOne


at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk.

i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this.


On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while.

because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference.

In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go?


Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"



Alternatively we can lynch him for playing like mafia.

As in the majority of his filter is filler and he's basically avoided giving his opinion on almost anything at all, IE he's avoiding stepping on any toes.

I get that you're trying to analyze his actions, but if he doesn't take any actions at all there's not going to be a whole lot to analyze.


Show nested quote +
On October 10 2014 01:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 10 2014 00:55 Hopeless1der wrote:
that's not contradictory thats called being lazy. Would you have felt better if I afk'd my vote on Lian?

right now yes, still reading lian scum. haven't reread anything yet, at work. I'll try to give updated thoughts this evening.

My never-lynch list is HF BH grack palmar bats. aside from that I dont have much right now.


Cool, a bunch of unexplained obvious townreads and a scumread that he never bothered to follow up on or pressure at any point.


Theres so much more than this too. If you said my reasons are good then by extension obi's are too. I don't thiiink I'd even written anything about hopeless at that point either.

You're scum reading obi further for not explaining his town read on me when he did and it actually makes sense (town reading him when he was under pressure etc) instead of jumping further on me whereas when hopeless exhibits all of these traits with far scummier motives you ignore him because of obi who IS actually explaining

I don't think these are very good reasons for scum reading Hopeless. These posts are a much more apt description of Palmar's play really.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 21:23 GMT
#1979
Which all kind of ties back to Slam's post about how we really don't know how to scum hunt and we just attack people for "not being useful", which he's probably right about.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 21:28 GMT
#1983
Speaking of slam… at the start of the game he makes reasonable posts and looks like he's trying to solve the game so everybody town reads him. Later he does nothing but post gifs and starts telling people to call him scummy? Then he makes a bunch of posts about how he's flying under the radar? After that he tells everybody that we don't know how to scum hunt?

Perhaps he may be trying to tell us something...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 10 2014 21:30 GMT
#1986
I have absolutely no idea how to read him either but it actually looks like he may be mafia and wants us to catch him or something.
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