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On October 07 2014 14:07 Holyflare wrote:
Why do I care if people think my vote is stupid if it's literally what I can see in your filter with my own eyes? The fact they call it stupid just means that they are wrong or also mafia.
Well I'm not mafia. And I don't think that Hopeless is mafia.
Ergo that means both of us are wrong about my own filter and that you have magic glasses that can only see what you want to see. Qed.
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On October 07 2014 14:10 Grackaroni wrote:
lol like half my filter is talking about BH being town. I feel pretty confident that you can get a solid read on him based on his enthusiasm to contribute and I've seen a good number of BH games.
I like Obiwan for a vote.
##Unvote: OO
##Vote: Obiwan
You might. I don't.
And I didn't even read your filter. I don't know what you're trying to do here.
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On October 07 2014 14:13 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you've really read anything
I blatantly haven't done this. I've payed attention to like the first 3 pages or so and the last few I've been posting on.
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On October 07 2014 14:14 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 04:41 Blazinghand wrote:On October 07 2014 04:36 Grackaroni wrote:
BH you said you don't have an opinion on Oats post's. Do you have an opinion on HF's posts attacking Oat's posts? I do. I think HF's reasoning based on the VT claim shenannies are consistent with HF's reasoning as town. This reasoning is solid enough. The follow-up about "why are you in caps lock" isn't meaningful, but I think HF believes himself to be correct. Normally I'd find his attachment to that piece scummy but I really like the follow-up he posts right here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=14#268The attempt to leverage the current situation on OO by asking OO about Oats is a solid way to develop a read on both of them. This "continuance" piece is harder for scum to think of but fits well with a tunneled HF on Oats. Due to these reasons, I do not believe HF is a good lynch today. This post in particular. BH could easily avoid answering the question in a BH-y way. Even though he is doing his standard random lynch he's actually providing some nice insight.
Okay.
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On October 07 2014 14:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Yeah that was my point. You're complaining that nobody is making content and you haven't even made an effort to read the thread - combined with what HF has pointed out about your lack of stances on people.
I complained that the thread is stagnating and that I'm trying to move it forward.
Which is the part of his post that you didn't read, because he said that I'm just trying to move it into nothingness based on the no evidence that he's pulled from the thread.
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lol I am so never shooting for a town leader position again.
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On October 07 2014 14:19 Alakaslam wrote:
Well yeah; you moved it forward to lynching you from comfortably lynching OO
Thumbs up much success 10/10.
Holyflare still scum.
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On October 07 2014 14:21 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 14:18 Alakaslam wrote:
So I think ObiWanShinobi stuff is null.
He could just, you know, not know who is scum yet
And yet want to do something
But not cool with tossin Chupazi around. But yeah scum do what he is doing too.
I think OO may just simply be the lynch but not to stop finding a better target; why shouldn't I be up for lynch hey? but he read through the entire thread and literally has no opinions
Except I literally didn't do this.
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On October 07 2014 14:27 Holyflare wrote:straight into how bh does this as every alignment bs, no conclusions from reading, no reads, nothing whatsoever but telling people that what bh is doing is null you have no actual opinions on ANYTHING that happened pre-bh rng
You're right. I don't. Because I didn't reread anything that happened before that.
I said I would, and then I didn't, because I didn't feel like it.
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On October 07 2014 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 11:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
This is going to be a really small postcount game. Nobody else seems interested in moving the thread forward which really bothers me.
Bleed towniness. Yeah this is a really strange post. How can you really say this sincerely from the perspective of somebody who hasn't even read through the thread. For all you knew somebody could have been spewing towniness and you just never read it.
Because we hit 20 pages by the end of the first half of the day, and from the looks of the early game and BH's random lynching, I was under the impression that nothing of great importance happened.
You're acting like one of two good townreads are super important, and they're not. We have 14 players. That's not enough. We need more.
If you're really going to get your panties in a bunch about this, I'll go and reread the entire game and say stuff.
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On October 07 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
so you're telling me you come into the thread and can't be fucked to read any of the game whatsoever and then you start ranting at people and telling them how BH thing is null so that effectively leaves you with nothing and you didn't think it would be apt to comment on anything previous to the giant alignment null enigma that is BH!?!?!?
Only then to complain that nothing is happening and people are lazy only to be the one that hasn't read anything at all so even if we said something you wouldn't know what the fuck we are talking about?????
I was focusing on the people trying to get reads off of something you couldn't get reads off of, IE BH's rng lynch nonsense.
Seriously I've told you like 50 times get it through your head pls.
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I'm joining slam in brotherhood of Chupazi.
Fuck the rest of you.
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On October 07 2014 14:41 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 14:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 14:32 Holyflare wrote:
so you're telling me you come into the thread and can't be fucked to read any of the game whatsoever and then you start ranting at people and telling them how BH thing is null so that effectively leaves you with nothing and you didn't think it would be apt to comment on anything previous to the giant alignment null enigma that is BH!?!?!?
Only then to complain that nothing is happening and people are lazy only to be the one that hasn't read anything at all so even if we said something you wouldn't know what the fuck we are talking about????? I was focusing on the people trying to get reads off of something you couldn't get reads off of, IE BH's rng lynch nonsense. Seriously I've told you like 50 times get it through your head pls. you've just repeatedly shut down anyone that is scum reading bh and then picked up on damd who isn't even talking about bh, he's talking about OO and actually makes sense in some regards so how can you possibly be getting reads when instead you are just telling them they are wrong and repeating yourself?
i don't need to follow up when what i can already see is right there in your filter
Am wondering where this went. Also am wishing it was true because I'm kind of annoyed.
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On October 07 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:
I do need to follow up if you're trying to twist things into a false reality so that people don't believe it. I know how lazy people are at reading filters.
Except this is provably untrue because Hopeless and I were on the same page.
Unless, of course, you think we're both mafia which you haven't really addressed at all.
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On October 07 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:
I do need to follow up if you're trying to twist things into a false reality so that people don't believe it. I know how lazy people are at reading filters.
This just in: I am a Time Lord.
More at 11.
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On October 07 2014 14:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 14:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:
I do need to follow up if you're trying to twist things into a false reality so that people don't believe it. I know how lazy people are at reading filters. Except this is provably untrue because Hopeless and I were on the same page. Unless, of course, you think we're both mafia which you haven't really addressed at all. slam posts exactly what I said before I even elaborated on it so knows exactly what I mean, grack has also agreed with the sentiment, hopeless' post about me being silly didn't even make any sense and you are the person being scum read
This goes both ways.
Like we're arguing in circles about the exact same stuff the other person is arguing about. It's really dumb.
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On October 07 2014 14:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 14:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 14:49 Holyflare wrote:On October 07 2014 14:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 14:45 Holyflare wrote:
I do need to follow up if you're trying to twist things into a false reality so that people don't believe it. I know how lazy people are at reading filters. Except this is provably untrue because Hopeless and I were on the same page. Unless, of course, you think we're both mafia which you haven't really addressed at all. slam posts exactly what I said before I even elaborated on it so knows exactly what I mean, grack has also agreed with the sentiment, hopeless' post about me being silly didn't even make any sense and you are the person being scum read This goes both ways. Like we're arguing in circles about the exact same stuff the other person is arguing about. It's really dumb. this quite literally does not go both ways because hopeless' post LITERALLY made no sense, he quoted everything that makes you scummy and then said wtf even if it did make sense i don't even care because why does what he say make anything better? I had a suspicion based on your filter and so i purposefully left my reason for scum reading you a "read your filter" to make sure people were on the same page. Lo and behold they were.
Except it did. It might not to you, because you're tunneling the fuck out of me and ignoring every single thing I'm saying in favor of thinking I'm mafia.
So I'd suggest you either take a step back and reacquaint yourself with the Hopeless/me interaction in favor of getting some perspective, or prepare to be completely ignored. I'm not going to waste my time talking to you if you're just going to blindly tunnel me for the rest of the day. It's a lost cause.
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You've managed to waste so much of my time that I need to go to sleep so I can work tomorrow.
And I never even managed to finish my reread. So there's also that. Good job.
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I was under the impression that obi had actually read the thread and was about to...do...things, once he'd gotten people to drop the RNG discussion. Evidently I was wrong. Obi do you have any reads based on...reading?
Ye.
Kelsier is definitely in my town circle after his last few posts. I liked how he approached the Holyflare/me fight (wait for him to catch up, he can't formulate reads while you're attacking him, etc) because it feels like he's trying to figure out what my angle is specifically, rather than immediately jumping to conclusions about what I'm doing based on how I interacted with the BH nonsense.
Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.)
Holyflare's filter is basically him just blowing up useless stuff, IE me "not doing anything," getting mad at me for trying to get people off of BH's nonsense, blowing up Oats' claim stuff. I really don't see a whole lot of "useful" from his filter, and it looks like he's fixating on nothing but silly shit.
The thing I noticed about Lian is that he's withholding his vote on OO because of "principles." (????) Aside from harping on the BH shit which didn't mean anything, I don't like how he's arbitrarily holding out on voting for someone he perceives as scummy.
Also, I rescind my townread on Grack. Not reading the thread =/= alignment indicative, but he pushes me based on the fact that I didn't know whether or not he called BH town. It's an incredibly superficial push and I don't like it.
Like...I know two of my scumreads are based on omgus, but I feel like both of them are stupid enough to warrant it. I don't feel confident reading any other players right now.
Looking back, I don't feel confident making many reads based on the few pages that I missed. I feel like I hit the most important topic that I wanted to cover (the people who were pushing the random voters) and I developed my reads off of it. I still want to see more from Batsnacks and BH and I'd prefer to interact with them before formulating reads on either of them.
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If OO doesn't play he's probably just going to get lynched.
Really don't know what he's doing right now, but eh.
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