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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 02:56 GMT
#385
On October 07 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
##vote obiwanshinobi


reasons: read filter


Get at me you jobber.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 02:57 GMT
#386
lol he actually voted me.

Okay. I looked at your filter and I still don't see reasoning for it. Explain.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:00 GMT
#389
"My filter" doesn't cut it.

##vote holyflare

Explain.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:03 GMT
#391
I can't give answers when nobody is asking me questions.

And I don't see what about my questions is so open ended.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:09 GMT
#394
On October 07 2014 12:06 Holyflare wrote:
open ended questions, telling people what is scummy and what is not scummy, no answers, no pushing, no anything really at all and then complains nobody is pushing the thread forward


*Can't give answers for questions people haven't asked me.
*Of course I'm going to tell people what I think is/isn't scummy because that's the objective of the game.
*I'm pushing Damdred/lion at the moment so I don't know where "no pushing" came from.
*I'm asking questions which get left open, and then I push for the thread to be more active. Which is apparently grounds for a scumread somehow.

Really this vote doesn't make any sense. If you have something to ask me/pressure me on, then get at me. Otherwise go do something else instead of lurk and then attack me as soon as I push for more activity.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:21 GMT
#397
Damdred/lion, mostly.

Opinions on them?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:35 GMT
#401
On October 07 2014 12:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
what do you think about me obiwan?


You know what that post reads like?

+ Show Spoiler +
Do you like me?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No
[ ] Maybe


^ This.

I guess you look town though.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:38 GMT
#402
On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.


What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.


Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.


I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.


Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.


So what's so important about his reaction?

You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important.


That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc.


That's not the point I'm making. Saying that someone's reaction matters because they're getting lynched, and then admitting that they're not getting lynched = their reaction doesn't matter because they know they're not getting lynched.

You can't use a reaction test accurately if the guy being tested knows it's a test; hence, the test is a wash and you've gained nothing.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:47 GMT
#409
On October 07 2014 12:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
okay...how do you feel about grack* and/or kelsier?

Damdred you're thoughts on them as well?

*I know i've made no mention of him yet.


I don't feel particularly confident reading either of those players right now. I'm looking, and they look kind of town I guess...Maybe.

I have no solid wisdom to impart here, lool.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 03:59 GMT
#413
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it


So where's the follow up on your vote? Where's your interest in figuring me out/lynching mafia?

You put your vote on me and started talking about random shit, even after two other people called you on your shitvote which you have done nothing to fix. Care to explain?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:15 GMT
#416
On October 07 2014 13:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 12:43 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think he was insistent at all he asked me why i didn't vote oats despite saying i did and that was it


So where's the follow up on your vote? Where's your interest in figuring me out/lynching mafia?

You put your vote on me and started talking about random shit, even after two other people called you on your shitvote which you have done nothing to fix. Care to explain?


i don't need to follow up when what i can already see is right there in your filter


If that's really your answer, then I'm afraid I'm going to have to get you lynched.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:19 GMT
#418
I know. I wouldn't even classify it as a shit fight because I don't think that's what it is.

Holyflare is just being really dumb right now and it's hard to see him coming to those kinds of conclusions as town.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:26 GMT
#420
We already went over why your vote was stupid. Saying everything a second time won't make it any smarter.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:28 GMT
#422
If you have the desire to be even more annoying, then go ahead. I'll just debunk it and tell you why it's dumb and bad, even though two players already called you on it and you've completely ignored them/us.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:37 GMT
#426
Okay, so what about my BH argument doesn't make sense? I pointed out why pushing BH because he was pushing an RNG lynch is a useless waste of time since it's factually incorrect to attribute it as a scum characteristic; if BH has an example of him doing this as town, it can't be used to sell a scumtell on him since it's not an inherently scum trait. That's what makes it stupid, and why I want to steer people away from that line of thinking to focus on more important information, IE almost anything else.

So what's inherently scummy about pushing conversation away from something provably pointless? Oh right, nothing. Because you've fixated on one aspect of my filter and have completely failed to try to see any potential town motivation as to what I'm doing.

Hopeless and I have both called you on your shitvote and you've ignored both of us. Go back and read it unless you feel like ignoring more facts in favor of pushing nonsense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:39 GMT
#427
On October 07 2014 13:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Obi are you scum reading Lian/Damdred? Why did you choose them specifically to talk about with Hopeless?



I just explained why in my wall. They're both focusing on irrelevancies (BH's rng lynch and the possible implications).

I really can't see where Lian is coming from at all, but I think damdred's response was okay.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 04:43 GMT
#430
So asking people about why their reasoning is bad and seeing how far they're willing to push it is nothingness? Focusing on people who state that other players are "interesting" without bothering to follow it up is scummy?

Yeah, okay. You're being ridiculous.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 05:04 GMT
#434
On October 07 2014 13:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'd love for you to be town and prove me wrong by actually pushing something that happened in the game previously that you said you read but for now you haven't done that.


Nice deflect, bro.

You know what's funny? I went back in the game and found you fixating on more stupid shit. So I still don't see the point of wading through garbage just to have you force me through more useless garbage.

You are so scum this game I don't even. I DON'T EVEN.

Pedit: Just refreshed. You're emphasizing someone siding with you but you've still completely ignored the fact that two people have commented on your vote being stupid. Hilarious.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 05:06 GMT
#435
On October 07 2014 13:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 13:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So asking people about why their reasoning is bad and seeing how far they're willing to push it is nothingness? Focusing on people who state that other players are "interesting" without bothering to follow it up is scummy?

Yeah, okay. You're being ridiculous.

What kind of follow up did you expect? There's literally nothing that Damdred could have said to follow up on OO not defending himself. I think it's absolutely absurd that you think that Damdred's statement about OO is the most worthwhile thing to pursue in the thread.

Your posts about BH are really just back seat coaching, which scum do a lot. they reveals nothing about your thoughts on the people reading BH based on his RNG push and nothing on your own thoughts about BH.


This argument goes two ways.

I can't give thoughts on BH because he literally always does this. Nobody involved in the BH read-gathering debacle can divulge anything of interest because there is nothing of interest there: hence why I think it's weird that people are pushing the idea of him being so scummy for doing something so bog-standard in the first place.

If you have an actual opinion on BH's alignment, definitely let me in the know, because I'm pretty in the dark on this one.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 07 2014 05:09 GMT
#437
Also, I think Grack is town.

It's a hard thing for me to explain but I like the way he's interacting with me and the way he words his posts.
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