I am from somewhere else. So in a way I am new but not new. Take what you will. So guess the smurf game is over.

How should a new player post?

Hi i am new here lets be friends?

No they would put a lot of thought into whether they should claim.

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 21:25 GMT

#288

Lol there's 10 pages Palmar...

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 21:58 GMT

#299

On October 07 2014 06:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Mistake, mistake and mistake- upon our way to victory!!!

that's how you win the Chupazi way

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 22:03 GMT

#303

Recognizing BH's town play is an art form. Actually after seeing 3 years of BH games I think it's pretty simple. Just look at his enthusiasm to play and see if he's making excuses to avoid contributing. When he's town he's always one of the main contributors and posts a lot. When he is scum - real life gets in the way of his ability to play.

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 22:11 GMT

#311

It's honestly a recurring theme in BH's scum play. When I played scum with him he smurfed and pretended he only had the ability to post during a small period of time and then wrote nothing but long overview posts with no analysis. He literally sat in the scum qt chatting with me for hours but wouldn't post at all in game during that period.

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 22:14 GMT

#315

I noticed that too it seemed like Damdred's read was just a mirror of thread sentiment. Which isn't necessarily indicative of scum as thread sentiment sways my opinion all the time but it's something.

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 22:19 GMT

#319

Damdred what do you think of KSC's attack on BH?

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 23:02 GMT

#326

lol HF's argument: Don't question me because I'm town. Now sheep me.

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 23:06 GMT

#328

So when can we question you? The game where you roll scum and you say "go ahead and question me I'm scum so I'll be here until end game."

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 23:10 GMT

#331

On October 07 2014 08:06 Grackaroni wrote:
So when can we question you? The game where you roll scum and you say "go ahead and question me I'm scum so I'll be here until end game."

This game was the heavyweight championship game btw. tsk tsk

3-4 is the reasonable assumption for mafia with 14 people so the 22% isn't very strange to me.

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 23:19 GMT

#334

You're implying that at the start of the post BH was careful not to slip that he had knowledge of the setup. (by pointing out that the number of scum is unknown) and then *slipped* that he was 100% sure there were 3 mafia within like 10 seconds of typing which is really unrealistic.

What I see is BH working off the assumption that random lynch provides at least 22% chance of hitting mafia compared to day 1 analysis which varies (and BH thinks is worse for catching mafia)

Grackaroni

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October 06 2014 23:47 GMT

#351

People say that but I really don't feel that's true because there is never a random lynch with no opposition. By voting RNG you are making a statement that nobody's scum read this game is worth more to you than the odds of RNG hitting scum and that you don't feel particularly townie on the guy being random lynched.

Both of those statements I would agree with right now thus I am voting OO

Grackaroni

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October 07 2014 04:05 GMT

#414

On October 07 2014 12:43 Damdred wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 07 2014 12:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:

On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:

On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:

On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.

What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.

Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.

I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.

Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.

So what's so important about his reaction?

You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important.

That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc.

That's not the point I'm making. Saying that someone's reaction matters because they're getting lynched, and then admitting that they're not getting lynched = their reaction doesn't matter because they know they're not getting lynched.

You can't use a reaction test accurately if the guy being tested knows it's a test; hence, the test is a wash and you've gained nothing.

Well it is mostly my opinion that an rng lynch won't hold up today. It could be very well that BH gets it done if that's what he pushes.

Tomorrow is going to be a very interesting day. I could honestly still envision almost anyone getting lynched.

Grackaroni

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October 07 2014 04:18 GMT

#417

This HF/Obi argument has got to be the most boring shit fight of all time.

Grackaroni

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October 07 2014 04:34 GMT

#424

Obi are you scum reading Lian/Damdred? Why did you choose them specifically to talk about with Hopeless?

Grackaroni

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October 07 2014 04:37 GMT

#425

Hf is actually right. There isn't actually anything even remotely alignment indicative about a single person in Obi's filter

Grackaroni

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October 07 2014 04:58 GMT

#432

On October 07 2014 13:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
So asking people about why their reasoning is bad and seeing how far they're willing to push it is nothingness? Focusing on people who state that other players are "interesting" without bothering to follow it up is scummy?

Yeah, okay. You're being ridiculous.

What kind of follow up did you expect? There's literally nothing that Damdred could have said to follow up on OO not defending himself. I think it's absolutely absurd that you think that Damdred's statement about OO is the most worthwhile thing to pursue in the thread.

Your posts about BH are really just back seat coaching, which scum do a lot. they reveals nothing about your thoughts on the people reading BH based on his RNG push and nothing on your own thoughts about BH.

Grackaroni

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October 07 2014 05:03 GMT

#433

Like really what is there to say about OO. Maybe he's scum and he's trying to show that he doesn't care that some people are pushing to random lynch him. Perhaps he's town and he actually doesn't care that some people are pushing to random lynch him. I would agree that it's disturbing that OO doesn't care that people are pushing him but its hard to read into that with respect to alignment.