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On October 13 2014 23:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2014 23:48 Alakaslam wrote:
I HAZ better qweschin.
Palmar, y does you think HF is poisoning pholkz Because Hopeless got mad that HF lynched him and said HF was the poisoner, which fits perfectly with there being a missing hit from night 1. HF is hardly even arguing it, I think.
Because this point is actually incredibly asinine. Mafia's success likely falls upon coordinating with the poisoner at this point since town is shitting on scum left and right.
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We don't even actually have a reason to believe Hope's thoughts because his job is fucking with town in the first place.
The fact that you're agreeing with something so tenuous is really scummy.
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On October 14 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 00:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
We don't even actually have a reason to believe Hope's thoughts because his job is fucking with town in the first place.
The fact that you're agreeing with something so tenuous is really scummy. What's the point in him lying though. It's a free "mislynch" for mafia.
Because if Holyflare is town then he's fulfilling his wincon.
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On October 14 2014 00:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Looking at the votes slam and store would be good lynches because they didn't vote on obi.
waht
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On October 14 2014 00:42 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 00:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Looking at the votes slam and store would be good lynches because they didn't vote on obi. Storr is basically untouchable town. He got mad at me dude As for me I can manipulate you all like Svengali. People were calling me confirmed at the start of this game, then I TOLD you all to scumread me so now you are. Time for that has long gone, y'all missed the point. It was so I could defend and be even more townie. I am a bit of a perfectionist, which is why in the absence of skill I feel a tendency to troll around and be nuts. But I am beginning to suspect that I am not entirely devoid of skill. I can see things, so there is no reason to act nuts anymore. Not at the moment anyway. HolyFlare is doing a good job of having reasons for things, but not quite good enough. Too much has happened.
Holyflare is scum because he had a bunch of good reasons for doing town things.
Storr is town because he was mad.
Uhm.
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On October 14 2014 00:47 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 00:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 14 2014 00:42 Alakaslam wrote:On October 14 2014 00:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Looking at the votes slam and store would be good lynches because they didn't vote on obi. Storr is basically untouchable town. He got mad at me dude As for me I can manipulate you all like Svengali. People were calling me confirmed at the start of this game, then I TOLD you all to scumread me so now you are. Time for that has long gone, y'all missed the point. It was so I could defend and be even more townie. I am a bit of a perfectionist, which is why in the absence of skill I feel a tendency to troll around and be nuts. But I am beginning to suspect that I am not entirely devoid of skill. I can see things, so there is no reason to act nuts anymore. Not at the moment anyway. HolyFlare is doing a good job of having reasons for things, but not quite good enough. Too much has happened. Holyflare is scum because he had a bunch of good reasons for doing town things. Storr is town because he was mad. Uhm. Scum and third party are actually not the same. Not even if the third party is anti-town.
That's nice.
We're still not lynching HF though.
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On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner? In fact because in all likelihood he is. Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen.
We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target.
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On October 14 2014 00:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Why is hf poisoner, because he didn't die n1? Sorry i cabt really backtrack the thread atn.
Palmar and HF are both under suspicion for being alive and being the most likely nightkill targets.
People are voting with Palmar even though he hasn't fucking done anything and HF has been pro town all game.
It blows my fucking mind.
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On October 14 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner? In fact because in all likelihood he is. Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen. We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target. Why not?
Because I think he's town and I've given all of the reasons as to why this is. We are not lynching him because "3p looks town so HF might be scum for looking town."
Holyflare is not the poisoner and he most certainly isn't mafia. I am not lynching him and anyone voting him is claiming scum.
I am going to work. I will be back a few hours before deadline.
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On October 14 2014 00:54 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 00:52 Palmar wrote:On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner? Yes, if he flips poisoner, that instantly gives us a free mislynch (we'll be at 4v1 tomorrow). And tbh, him overreacting (to the point he wanted to lynch me) for me suggesting a medic should just claim, suggests that he probably knows there is no medic, so I'm pretty sure he will flip 3p. Like if I was town and in his situation I'd tell the medic to just fucking claim so we can clear shit up and "clear" 2 people. Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner? In fact because in all likelihood he is. Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen. We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target. Ariel facepalm gif is in my filter, feel free to borrow
The same argument applies to Palmar. His argument doesn't clarify why HF is scum, just stating the possibility of hitting more scum if we hit scum in HF. It might be an overreaction, or it might just be the way HF plays and you simply have no idea what the difference is.
But that doesn't really matter regardless because I think he's town.
It is a moot point. Find a new lynch target.
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On October 14 2014 01:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 14 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:On October 14 2014 00:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 14 2014 00:51 Alakaslam wrote:On October 14 2014 00:50 KelsierSC wrote:
So why is hf a better lynch ? Because he might be poisoner? In fact because in all likelihood he is. Only one thing that can convince me otherwise; a medic claim that unfortunately I also believe shouldn't happen. We are not lynching Holyflare. Get this through your fucking head and find a new lynch target. Why not? Because I think he's town and I've given all of the reasons as to why this is. We are not lynching him because "3p looks town so HF might be scum for looking town." Not why I'm lynching him. That simply explains how it adds up that someone can look town and yet not be town. I want to lynch him because there's no evidence we have a medic, because he completely overreacted to me suggesting a medic should claim and save his ass (like even if it's not the smartest move, we're basically going to treat him as town if he was indeed protected), and because mafia basically claimed to have shot him night 1. Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Holyflare is not the poisoner and he most certainly isn't mafia. I am not lynching him and anyone voting him is claiming scum.
I am going to work. I will be back a few hours before deadline. Anyone voting him is claiming having a brain. Like there's two people voting him right now and we can't both be scum? So your theory is already awful.
That's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that him making sense as a shot doesn't = scum. It's something that we have to take at face value.
And we have no reason at all to believe what Hopeless says. Hopeless was mafia; his job is to fuck with town and we have no reason to believe him one way or the other. The only thing we can do is analyze what Holyflare has done this game to make him town or scum, and I think he's town.
Saying that he's scum because a medic might claim is really bad reasoning because it ignores basically his entire filter and isn't actually a solid reason.
Heading off to work for reals now. Don't vote HF because he's town.
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Effort is not alignment indicative.
Didn't you learn this from last game?
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I see a wagon on Damdred.
What happened?
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I don't understand the Damdred case.
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It looks bad. I don't understand it at all.
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I see the words and everything.
I don't see how he's scum though?
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Also, if the medic just wants to flat out claim at this point that would be great.
If we even have one.
I'm assuming we don't even have one at this point because medic would've claimed and turned this discussion around several pages ago.
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