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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:21 GMT
#2389
On October 11 2014 12:16 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:12 liancourt wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

So if we're not lynching damd who else is there?

I dont even know anymore. s,torr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw.



why you no help to lynch liam

if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty.



what changed regarding liam.

I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam?

unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch.


could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth?

You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy.

Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him.

Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.


i think my vote on damdred is far sufficient on pushing him, What else can I do when the big debate of today is between you and obi. And me pushing obi now will mean a tie but i want this debate over so I can move on to lynching damdred.



Doing the far more important part when it comes to lynching mafia.

step 1, find scum suspect (check)

step 2, convince people to lynch scum suspect. (which you have not done all game regarding any of your scum suspects)


U & I are the same storr

no one is voting me and no one is voting for damdred. thus our voices are useless. I found scum suspect - damdred. Convince ppl to lynch damdred which I did in my earlier post.

3. people ignoring this fact because they're BLIND in the way that they are only focusing on hope and obi.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:24 GMT
#2399
On October 11 2014 12:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:14 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

So if we're not lynching damd who else is there?

I dont even know anymore. s,torr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw.



why you no help to lynch liam

if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty.



what changed regarding liam.

I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam?

unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch.


could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth?

You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy.

Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him.

Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.


ok sure.

but don't see see liam as an actual option to be lynched over damd today? i mean i know we only have 45 mins left... but yeah...

Hopefully when I flip people ignore OWS and look at those two.


What in the hell is the meaning of this? Why should we ignore obi?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:25 GMT
#2400
On October 11 2014 12:24 StorrZerg wrote:
something cool
liam all ready claimed vt... he can't be a pr


nah i claimed being superman and being part of team U & I
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:27 GMT
#2403
On October 11 2014 12:23 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Meeehhhhhhhhhhh


That's it? After you flip the fuck out over me not engaging mafia? That's all you have to say?


I'm saying meh because you both could be town


you realize that now when we have 33 mins left?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:32 GMT
#2410
On October 11 2014 12:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:27 liancourt wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:23 Holyflare wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:18 Holyflare wrote:
Meeehhhhhhhhhhh


That's it? After you flip the fuck out over me not engaging mafia? That's all you have to say?


I'm saying meh because you both could be town


you realize that now when we have 33 mins left?


Did hopeless start magically posting before now? No.


he still hasnt posted his gravestone. I want him to post that gravestone.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:35 GMT
#2419
On October 11 2014 12:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:24 liancourt wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:14 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:
[quote]


why you no help to lynch liam

if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty.



what changed regarding liam.

I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam?

unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch.


could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth?

You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy.

Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him.

Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.


ok sure.

but don't see see liam as an actual option to be lynched over damd today? i mean i know we only have 45 mins left... but yeah...

Hopefully when I flip people ignore OWS and look at those two.


What in the hell is the meaning of this? Why should we ignore obi?

lolwut. I think OWS is town, is that not obvious from my filter? Or are you not reading that?

Damdred/Lian scumteam 100%


post your gravestone. it seemed to me for a second you were taking one for the team and letting obi off the hook. Your either both town or both scum in my eyes.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:38 GMT
#2428
On October 11 2014 12:31 Holyflare wrote:
I liked how he explained everything so well i dunno how to explain it, he made me all tingly. Like he was happy to defend that case against him because he knew he was town kind of way


made you tingly? ok...
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:43 GMT
#2438
On October 11 2014 12:37 Holyflare wrote:
Grack if we lynch damd you have to shoot hopeless or obi most probably because the entirety of tomorrow will be the same as today


that i would agree with i don't want the same discussion happening tomorrow it's too good a scenario for scum. No progress. Wait this is assuming he's vig.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:45 GMT
#2446
On October 11 2014 12:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:35 liancourt wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:24 liancourt wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:14 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:
[quote]


what changed regarding liam.

I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam?

unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch.


could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth?

You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy.

Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him.

Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.


ok sure.

but don't see see liam as an actual option to be lynched over damd today? i mean i know we only have 45 mins left... but yeah...

Hopefully when I flip people ignore OWS and look at those two.


What in the hell is the meaning of this? Why should we ignore obi?

lolwut. I think OWS is town, is that not obvious from my filter? Or are you not reading that?

Damdred/Lian scumteam 100%


post your gravestone. it seemed to me for a second you were taking one for the team and letting obi off the hook. Your either both town or both scum in my eyes.

I did, you and damdred. I gave brief reasons why. I've given literally every other player a townread.


you aren't giving much away like reasons why you think others are town and why you think damd and me are scummy
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:49 GMT
#2454
damdred stop trying to flip things and cause shennanigans. And i agree with HF leaving things unresolved by lynching someone totally different isn't good for town.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:52 GMT
#2459
hope post your gravestone if your town it'll help us
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:54 GMT
#2467
On October 11 2014 12:52 StorrZerg wrote:
Blazinghand
Alakaslam
KelsierSC

all afk right now? first 3 people on obi


your point?
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:57 GMT
#2471
slam became a sad panda when no one took notice of him. We should give him love by accusing him of scum.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 03:59 GMT
#2475
just claim all the roles why dont you
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 04:07 GMT
#2499
well HF is town prolly most definitely. well done bro
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 04:09 GMT
#2503
well now i know why hope didnt post that gravestone
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 04:15 GMT
#2513
On October 11 2014 13:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 13:09 liancourt wrote:
well now i know why hope didnt post that gravestone


Why did you not vote on anyone despite saying we needed to kill them so discussion wouldn't be just about them?


well hope was gonna die anyway. Not like i had a deciding vote.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 04:35 GMT
#2534
On October 11 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
I was quite obviously shot last night and that's the only thing giving me pause so the person/people that would have shot me last night were either asleep because eu time or new people that didn't understand how extremely towny i actually am.

Lian/kel fall into that. Also in regards to kel it's something about how he goes into town reading people that irks me quite a lot, especially throwing out these random things like when i said i had a red check on hopeless and rather than question things about obi or any other reaction that would have been legit straight away jumped to hopeless being framed and has pushed obi no matter what all day despite obi still being town.


i'm liking this post of HF so very much right now
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 04:56 GMT
#2544
On October 11 2014 13:35 StorrZerg wrote:
meh doesn't matter
im kinda sad i wasn't able to hammer h1. vote wasn't as close as i was hoping it to be


U & I are equally suspicious in not joining either train. Damdred is less scummy because it's hard to believe scum will point fingers at themselves, but there's slight chance this could be a very long running tactic.

Also, hopeless was the third vote on OO when obi also had 2 votes on him. Why didn't hopeless try to vote obi and vote his fellow scum. I can can conclude only one thing. Obi is also scum and hopeless voting the inactive OO scum is by far better than voting the active obi.

On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
##Vote: ObviousOne


On October 08 2014 01:37 geript wrote:
Vote Count:
Grackaroni (0): batsnacks
Oatsmaster (0): batsnacks
Obvious One (3): Blazinghand, Alakaslam, Grackaroni, Hopeless1der
Palmer (1): batsnacks
Obiwanshinobi (2): Holyflare, Grackaroni
Holyflare (1): ObiWanShinobi
KelsierSC (1): Oatsmaster
liancourt (1): StorrZerg

Not Voting (5): Damdred, Palmer, liancourt, KelsierSC, ObviousOne

Currently Obvious One is set to be lynched.
Day 1 ends at Wednesday, Oct 08 4:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in )



Moreover, hopeless says this here:

On October 11 2014 12:16 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 12:14 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 12:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:54 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:51 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:46 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:41 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 11 2014 11:36 Holyflare wrote:
[quote]

So if we're not lynching damd who else is there?

I dont even know anymore. s,torr wont drop lian, lian is doing next to nothing, obiwan still looks like shit and will look even worse when I flip town. Kelsier is under my radar but you wont say anything to that effect and I cba to read his filter again right now. Palmar and grack are afk. batsnacks is being an asshole, BH wont bother to read me and you are trolling me. I'm having a great time btw.



why you no help to lynch liam

if it keeps me alive, sure. No one else gives a shit right now, so you'll forgive me for being a little salty.



what changed regarding liam.

I thought you had a scum read on him day 1. Why didn't you want to push him day 2? Why was damd more important than liam? you know liam really wanted to push damd too right. did this impact your read on liam?

unflipped associations. Damdred is scummier to me and is my preferred lynch.


could you please take 2 mins and answer each question a bit more in depth?

You're right as far as scumreading each other colored my reads. By themselves, scummiest players in the game (aside from myself I guess). Damdred feels scummier because of his case on lian with no followup and no conviction and I think his case has a lot of forced points, none of which were new. His defence of my case is not "perfect" like HF says, some points are cleared like the insufferable comment, stuff like his Oats read and his pushes/votes today not lining up are still scummy.

Lian is constantly bitching about how you tunnel him but still calls you town for it. Took the time to read your previous games and maintained that conclusion. Despite getting massively shit on still gave reads the way he wanted to as far as "stamps". Dont get me wrong, he's scummy, his list post D1 still sucks, his response to my RNG vote is pretty scummy and he's sitting on the sidelines today without helping me push Damdred despite his scumread on him.

Like its entirely possible and likely to me that they're both scum, but one at a time. Damdred is scummier to me.


ok sure.

but don't see see liam as an actual option to be lynched over damd today? i mean i know we only have 45 mins left... but yeah...

You've already tried pushing lian. I tried pushing damdred. Neither of us got anything done. Hopefully when I flip people ignore OWS and look at those two. Right now, palmar being lynched is more likely than either of them.


why does he tell us to ignore obi when he flips? When he said that, I came to the conclusion that they're both town or both scum.

And this is a repeat of what I said earlier so I'll just quote it again.

On October 09 2014 14:20 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.

Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all.


What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it?

You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything.


Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy.


I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this.


You say this at the start of the day, it's like you want everyone to brush OO off as a serious lynch in a I don't really care way and then you say moments later this

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 11:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
This is going to be a really small postcount game. Nobody else seems interested in moving the thread forward which really bothers me.

Bleed towniness.


It seemed to me like you wanted to move away from the whole OO business so you wanted to start a new topic.

This is all in hindsight after knowing OO's alignment and thought it odd in my eyes after rereading the early game.




My past suspicions on obi have resurfaced.

My #1 scum is obi. And i like all of HF's post especially on kel. So kel is #2.

And frankly, the U & I team, me and storr are both equally suspicious not voting on either wagon. #3 for us,

#4 for damdred in the off chance that he's the master strategizer and told hopeless to write a case on him.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 11 2014 05:01 GMT
#2550
On October 11 2014 13:45 StorrZerg wrote:
so realistically hf had the option to push liam.
yet picked damd instead... O_o

if he is scum, which he flipped. why didnt he go for the easier liam push, rather than pushing damd which was much much harder

DING DING WINER WINNER CHICKEN DINER


why didn't he counter push obi?
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