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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 28 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote: And his claim was after FF's, so, harder to believe it was premeditated... My plan did not require me to claim before FF. It only required me to claim before at least one anti-town. Since FF is confirmed town, it doesn't matter if I claim before or after him. Read my previous post for the explanation. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 28 2014 10:33 Fecalfeast wrote: OK I understand why I'm an idiot now. I think CR is jester. He's trying to wiggle out of his counterclaim a little too obviously I think. I mean if he said "I planned to claim boxer only if I rolled OV/VT" I would believe him but "I planned to claim the opposite town role" sounds hastily typed out in a panic. I still think CR is non-town but I think he is jester. FF, you are the only one confirmed town, so I really need you to understand me and trust me here. I rescinded my claim IMMEDIATELY after the last person claimed. I gave almost no room for people to form a discussion. In fact, at the time GB and VE thought you were the anti-town. I am NOT trying to wiggle myself out of a counterclaim. Go read my explanation, if anything is unclear, ask. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 28 2014 10:34 Fecalfeast wrote: On top of that, he keeps leaving the thread which GB keeps saying is classic jester behaviour. I leave the thread when I am actually busy. I'm not gonna pretend to leave just as a tactic. That's using out-of-game information, and I find it a dishonest way to play the game. I'm not gonna do that. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 28 2014 10:37 Damdred wrote: Cr is the jester I believe at this point so it comes down to GB and be right now. If I had to pick one I'd say GB right now 2/3 between you, gb, and ve are anti-town. That means one of you needs to be taking my reads seriously. I don't care about the other two. If you have a reason to think I'm the Jester, please give it. | ||
Fecalfeast
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 28 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Well you and me both - but frankly I don't think there's much scummy in what CR is doing. Suboptimal for town sure, antitown flavored maybe, but SCUMMY? Meeehhhh...not with GB in the game. In my opinion anyway. If you think what I did was suboptimal for town, then tell me one harm that it did. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 28 2014 11:03 GlowingBear wrote: VE you're assuming CR's plan is legit and you're again working with the hypothesis where he claimed before FF. why are you so sure his plan is legit? I thought I had the game close to be figured out, but CR's unclaim just messed everything up. I'm scum for getting things confused? Lol VE. You can do better than that, regardless alignments What did my unclaim mess up? I rescinded my claim IMMEDIATELY after the last person claimed. I didn't wait until people wasted time discussing the game assuming I'm claiming Boxer. My play may have been the only reason why FF is confirmed town, who you thought was anti-town. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 28 2014 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote: I wasn't, you were. And I didn't claim immediately because I wanted to see what happened. So unless someone is trolling we have 4 OV claims and 1 Boxer claim, making FF confirmed town this game. If you're the REAL Boxer, you need to stand up and say something now or you'll be instantly lynched later in the day if you try and claim. VE, can you explain this statement? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On September 28 2014 19:43 Chairman Ray wrote: What did my unclaim mess up? I rescinded my claim IMMEDIATELY after the last person claimed. I didn't wait until people wasted time discussing the game assuming I'm claiming Boxer. My play may have been the only reason why FF is confirmed town, who you thought was anti-town. Exactly. I had FF as the most possible anti-town. If you come by the thread and "confirm" him as town, it is natural that I get confused. I don't get the big deal you're all doing with it. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On September 28 2014 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not assuming his "plan" is legit, in fact I'm one of the first who doesn't buy his explanation. I gave explicit reasoning as to why I think he's not mafia doing what he's doing, so that leaves me with town or Jester and I think town is more likely. I'm not assuming his plan is legit, and I STILL don't give a shit who claimed first. I never said you're scum for getting things confused. I'm saying it didn't take much for you to "figure out" the game in the first place. So why when CLARITY is brought to the thread in the form of CR UNCLAIMING Boxer and making FF CONFIRMED TOWN, why are you confused then? It doesn't make any sense from the standpoint of a townie processing new information and making new conclusions. It makes sense from a perspective of a mafia who's just saying shit to try and appear active. So I think you're mafia. I never said anything about you being mafia "because you got things confused". Like if you're town you really need to take a step back, realize that I'm town, and try and work with me - because this whole business of you just lol'ing everything I say and calling all of my contributions fluff and you setting up strawmen IS going to get you killed. Claiming before and after makes a huge difference in this plan of him. Why didn't he immediately claimed boxer when he first came to the thread then? OK, VE, assuming you're town. You say you doubt but you believe CR's claim. Therefore, it makes him and FF also town. So scum is me and Damdy. Do you think damdred is playing his scum game? I don't. Do you really believe I'm playing scum here? I'm doing my best to solve the game, you liking my methods or not. So your conclusion is wrong. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
CR Damdred, FF, GB Therefore, it leaves as mafia: VE I'm gonna re read the thread again to confirm this, but in the way I see this, game is pretty much solved. I just need to listen more from damdred to certify he is town. Come to the thread damdy. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 28 2014 19:52 Chairman Ray wrote: VE, can you explain this statement? I wanted to see who claimed what. From my perspective, I'm going to come from the group that is most claimed (OV/VT) so it doesn't matter when I claim. Besides me, at least one and probably 2 others were going to claim OV, I didn't feel the need to claim immediately. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Vote: GlowingBear That's one. I need the other two townies onboard. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On September 28 2014 19:41 Chairman Ray wrote: If you think what I did was suboptimal for town, then tell me one harm that it did. It put doubt in others' minds about YOUR alignment, for one. If you're town then that's suboptimal. I don't care. I literally was defending you from Fecal anyway. | ||
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Damdred
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