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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2014 10:28 GMT
#161
On September 28 2014 09:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 09:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2014 09:36 Chairman Ray wrote:
On September 28 2014 09:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2014 09:32 Chairman Ray wrote:
On September 28 2014 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wasn't, you were. And I didn't claim immediately because I wanted to see what happened.

So unless someone is trolling we have 4 OV claims and 1 Boxer claim, making FF confirmed town this game. If you're the REAL Boxer, you need to stand up and say something now or you'll be instantly lynched later in the day if you try and claim.


Unless I missed something, your claim came 2 posts after mine. But regardless, what do you make of what happened?

I'm definitely OV. Not fake claiming this time.

GB is acting anti-town and now there's 1 more between the OV's. Right now I'm looking at you because you tried to fake-claim Boxer. Why did you try and fake-claim Boxer?


My plan was to claim the opposite role if I rolled town. If I claimed boxer and there was only one other boxer claim, then we have a confirmed town. FF is confirmed town now.

Okay, so what was your plan if you rolled Boxer? Because if you claim OV then there are two other OV's out there and NO one is confirmed because one of the anti-town claimed your role, and presumably the other one claims OV. Like....I'm not buying this as a "premeditated plan" at all.


And his claim was after FF's, so, harder to believe it was premeditated...


My plan did not require me to claim before FF. It only required me to claim before at least one anti-town. Since FF is confirmed town, it doesn't matter if I claim before or after him. Read my previous post for the explanation.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2014 10:33 GMT
#162
On September 28 2014 10:33 Fecalfeast wrote:
OK I understand why I'm an idiot now. I think CR is jester. He's trying to wiggle out of his counterclaim a little too obviously I think. I mean if he said "I planned to claim boxer only if I rolled OV/VT" I would believe him but "I planned to claim the opposite town role" sounds hastily typed out in a panic. I still think CR is non-town but I think he is jester.


FF, you are the only one confirmed town, so I really need you to understand me and trust me here.

I rescinded my claim IMMEDIATELY after the last person claimed. I gave almost no room for people to form a discussion. In fact, at the time GB and VE thought you were the anti-town. I am NOT trying to wiggle myself out of a counterclaim.

Go read my explanation, if anything is unclear, ask.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2014 10:37 GMT
#163
On September 28 2014 10:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On top of that, he keeps leaving the thread which GB keeps saying is classic jester behaviour.


I leave the thread when I am actually busy. I'm not gonna pretend to leave just as a tactic. That's using out-of-game information, and I find it a dishonest way to play the game. I'm not gonna do that.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2014 10:38 GMT
#164
On September 28 2014 10:37 Damdred wrote:
Cr is the jester I believe at this point so it comes down to GB and be right now.

If I had to pick one I'd say GB right now


2/3 between you, gb, and ve are anti-town. That means one of you needs to be taking my reads seriously. I don't care about the other two. If you have a reason to think I'm the Jester, please give it.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 28 2014 10:41 GMT
#165
OK I believe you CR but I am going to sleep now.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2014 10:41 GMT
#166
On September 28 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Exactly. I honestly was chalking it up to english as a second language and being drunk but he said he is just going to get drunk now so I think he is just not reading the thread properly. I think GB is scummier than everyone but CR.

Well you and me both - but frankly I don't think there's much scummy in what CR is doing. Suboptimal for town sure, antitown flavored maybe, but SCUMMY? Meeehhhh...not with GB in the game. In my opinion anyway.


If you think what I did was suboptimal for town, then tell me one harm that it did.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2014 10:43 GMT
#167
On September 28 2014 11:03 GlowingBear wrote:
VE you're assuming CR's plan is legit and you're again working with the hypothesis where he claimed before FF. why are you so sure his plan is legit?

I thought I had the game close to be figured out, but CR's unclaim just messed everything up. I'm scum for getting things confused? Lol VE. You can do better than that, regardless alignments


What did my unclaim mess up? I rescinded my claim IMMEDIATELY after the last person claimed. I didn't wait until people wasted time discussing the game assuming I'm claiming Boxer. My play may have been the only reason why FF is confirmed town, who you thought was anti-town.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
September 28 2014 10:52 GMT
#168
On September 28 2014 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wasn't, you were. And I didn't claim immediately because I wanted to see what happened.

So unless someone is trolling we have 4 OV claims and 1 Boxer claim, making FF confirmed town this game. If you're the REAL Boxer, you need to stand up and say something now or you'll be instantly lynched later in the day if you try and claim.


VE, can you explain this statement?
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2014 13:09 GMT
#169
On September 28 2014 19:43 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 11:03 GlowingBear wrote:
VE you're assuming CR's plan is legit and you're again working with the hypothesis where he claimed before FF. why are you so sure his plan is legit?

I thought I had the game close to be figured out, but CR's unclaim just messed everything up. I'm scum for getting things confused? Lol VE. You can do better than that, regardless alignments


What did my unclaim mess up? I rescinded my claim IMMEDIATELY after the last person claimed. I didn't wait until people wasted time discussing the game assuming I'm claiming Boxer. My play may have been the only reason why FF is confirmed town, who you thought was anti-town.


Exactly. I had FF as the most possible anti-town. If you come by the thread and "confirm" him as town, it is natural that I get confused. I don't get the big deal you're all doing with it.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2014 13:17 GMT
#170
On September 28 2014 16:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 11:03 GlowingBear wrote:
VE you're assuming CR's plan is legit and you're again working with the hypothesis where he claimed before FF. why are you so sure his plan is legit?

I thought I had the game close to be figured out, but CR's unclaim just messed everything up. I'm scum for getting things confused? Lol VE. You can do better than that, regardless alignments

I'm not assuming his "plan" is legit, in fact I'm one of the first who doesn't buy his explanation. I gave explicit reasoning as to why I think he's not mafia doing what he's doing, so that leaves me with town or Jester and I think town is more likely. I'm not assuming his plan is legit, and I STILL don't give a shit who claimed first.

I never said you're scum for getting things confused. I'm saying it didn't take much for you to "figure out" the game in the first place. So why when CLARITY is brought to the thread in the form of CR UNCLAIMING Boxer and making FF CONFIRMED TOWN, why are you confused then? It doesn't make any sense from the standpoint of a townie processing new information and making new conclusions. It makes sense from a perspective of a mafia who's just saying shit to try and appear active. So I think you're mafia. I never said anything about you being mafia "because you got things confused".

Like if you're town you really need to take a step back, realize that I'm town, and try and work with me - because this whole business of you just lol'ing everything I say and calling all of my contributions fluff and you setting up strawmen IS going to get you killed.


Claiming before and after makes a huge difference in this plan of him. Why didn't he immediately claimed boxer when he first came to the thread then?

OK, VE, assuming you're town.
You say you doubt but you believe CR's claim. Therefore, it makes him and FF also town.
So scum is me and Damdy.
Do you think damdred is playing his scum game? I don't.
Do you really believe I'm playing scum here? I'm doing my best to solve the game, you liking my methods or not.

So your conclusion is wrong.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
September 28 2014 13:26 GMT
#171
LOL now that I told you that, I just thought that my current position is this:

CR

Damdred, FF, GB

Therefore, it leaves as mafia:

VE

I'm gonna re read the thread again to confirm this, but in the way I see this, game is pretty much solved.
I just need to listen more from damdred to certify he is town.
Come to the thread damdy.
I'm adorable.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:02 GMT
#172
On September 28 2014 19:52 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
I wasn't, you were. And I didn't claim immediately because I wanted to see what happened.

So unless someone is trolling we have 4 OV claims and 1 Boxer claim, making FF confirmed town this game. If you're the REAL Boxer, you need to stand up and say something now or you'll be instantly lynched later in the day if you try and claim.


VE, can you explain this statement?

I wanted to see who claimed what. From my perspective, I'm going to come from the group that is most claimed (OV/VT) so it doesn't matter when I claim. Besides me, at least one and probably 2 others were going to claim OV, I didn't feel the need to claim immediately.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:04 GMT
#173
Like you have to understand that order of claims is NOT important here. Why? Because from the beginning of the game, the two anti-town ARE GOING to fake-claim. Like, it's not just a possibility, that's a FUNCTION of the setup. So we KNOW at least TWO people are going to fake-claim.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:06 GMT
#174
And GB you're still saying that "the game is solved" and that "VE is mafia?"

##Vote: GlowingBear

That's one. I need the other two townies onboard.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:09 GMT
#175
I can't believe this setup will finish without anyone claiming mafia. I'm SO disappointed.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:13 GMT
#176
Like if anything at all, I'd say people who were QUICK to claim are more suspicious. Do you not get why I say that?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:14 GMT
#177
Ray I'm talkin to you bud, I need you in here to talk to me so we can vote for GB and win.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:14 GMT
#178
Fecal I'm talkin to you bud, let's do this. GB is the mafia and Damdred is the Jester. For the win.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
September 28 2014 15:17 GMT
#179
On September 28 2014 19:41 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 10:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
On September 28 2014 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Exactly. I honestly was chalking it up to english as a second language and being drunk but he said he is just going to get drunk now so I think he is just not reading the thread properly. I think GB is scummier than everyone but CR.

Well you and me both - but frankly I don't think there's much scummy in what CR is doing. Suboptimal for town sure, antitown flavored maybe, but SCUMMY? Meeehhhh...not with GB in the game. In my opinion anyway.


If you think what I did was suboptimal for town, then tell me one harm that it did.

It put doubt in others' minds about YOUR alignment, for one. If you're town then that's suboptimal.

I don't care. I literally was defending you from Fecal anyway.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 28 2014 15:30 GMT
#180
As much as it pains me I'm not the jester just oil and vinegar
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