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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 15:48 GMT
#2317
Hi VE btw. I hope you have the time to do a lot today if you are town because your slot looks awfully scummy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 15:54 GMT
#2320
On October 02 2014 00:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Hi VE btw. I hope you have the time to do a lot today if you are town because your slot looks awfully scummy.

Frankly I replaced in knowing I'd probably be lynched. I'll do exactly as much as I need to to try and find mafia - I'm not expending extra effort to make sure you guys don't mislynch me. I can't even do that when I've been in a game THE WHOLE TIME, and there's no way for me to explain posts my predecessor made, so all my energy is going into finding mafia and zero into defending myself.

Attention scum: VE is the easiest mislynch ever this game, and you can probably hide on his wagon. Just FYI.

No problem. Don't even bother with Harus stuff and just post your own thoughts. It would also be appreciated if you refrained from martyring (if you are town).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 15:54 GMT
#2321
On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today.

Why?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:00 GMT
#2325
On October 02 2014 00:58 StorrZerg wrote:
Big support of lynch Haru dies in night. Holy was coming around on myself.

And now I'm confirmed cause of d2 eod.

D2 eod does not confirm anyone.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:01 GMT
#2326
On October 02 2014 00:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so Batsnacks is our only confirmed town and Joey was trolling about Red check is that correct?

Correct. Joey had a greencheck on hopeless N0 (he was lynched day1) and a greencheck on batsnacks N1.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:08 GMT
#2330
On October 02 2014 01:06 batsnacks wrote:
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On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today.

Why?


Because it's lylo, we haven't lynched scum, and VE just replaced someone who was afk all game

Yeah, so we lynch the scummiest dude today. If that should be VE we lynch him. He has a whole day to play.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:10 GMT
#2331
We aren't not lynching the slot that avoided all main wagons and did nothing all game just because someone replaced in in LYLO. We cannot afford to ignore VE because you are feeling polite.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:11 GMT
#2333
On October 02 2014 01:10 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:06 batsnacks wrote:
On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today.

Why?


Because it's lylo, we haven't lynched scum, and VE just replaced someone who was afk all game


Doesn't mean we can't judge him off his reads today

Palmar was a 100% town forced kill. The only possible mafia would be obi.

If i remove him as a suspect for today. Then I can look at the other 4. 50% with darts. Maybe 75%.


I'm not eliminating ve as an option today because he was replaced.

@bats you are alive because they felt an unconfirmed hf was more dangerous than you.

I really don't get why you would remove Obi as a suspect. It does not make any sense.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:40 GMT
#2347
On October 02 2014 01:22 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:10 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:06 batsnacks wrote:
On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today.

Why?


Because it's lylo, we haven't lynched scum, and VE just replaced someone who was afk all game


Doesn't mean we can't judge him off his reads today

Palmar was a 100% town forced kill. The only possible mafia would be obi.

If i remove him as a suspect for today. Then I can look at the other 4. 50% with darts. Maybe 75%.


I'm not eliminating ve as an option today because he was replaced.

@bats you are alive because they felt an unconfirmed hf was more dangerous than you.

I really don't get why you would remove Obi as a suspect. It does not make any sense.


Because 3/4 of the push on palmar was dumb town.

Obi could be dumb town as well. He could be mafia.

I'd rather look at the other 4 remove the most Town person and focus my day like that.

I know that lynch was pushed by stupid town of myself and bats. Hf hammered. Mafia are way more likely to avoid that situation of town town lynching.
And again numbers I know for a fact there a minimum of 2 mafia within ve, ff, superbia, jat.

Possibly 3. So yeah I'm a fuck off obi for the most part. At least today

The bolded is the important part. There is no reason for you to assume that Obi is town and to remove him from your suspect list. Literally zero reason.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:48 GMT
#2357
On October 02 2014 01:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I can't quote what Jat is saying.

What I think of the Palmar lynch is that I thought he was mafia. That's it. Town voted on him so unless you think that that lynch was purely scum motivated then I'd say the people coasting on the Sd wagon for two whole days are more suspicious.

So what if town voted for him? Town also voted for skydragon but that doesn't mean there can't be scum on the wagon. There is a huge mafia incentive to lynch Palmar over Sky that day and if Storr and you are giving each other a pass for being on his wagon alone then all alarm bells are ringing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:56 GMT
#2360
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 16:59 GMT
#2363
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:01 GMT
#2366
On October 02 2014 01:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.


So what exactly are you saying here?

I am saying that if you are town then you should be suspicious of how he doesn't even consider the possibility that you could be scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:09 GMT
#2374
On October 02 2014 02:06 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.



No his alignment doesn't matter.

I know there are 2 mafia within ve jat ff superbia.

If obi is town, then 3. If not still 2.


Yeah, so what? That's not a reason to exclude him at all.
Hey you know, I am fairly sure there are 3 mafia between you, VE, Obi, FF and Superbia. So VE has a V in his name. So I know there are at least 2 scum between Obi, FF, Super and you. If VE is town 3 if not still 2.

Do you see the problem here?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#2380
On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.

Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.

So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.

Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.

None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:18 GMT
#2381
On October 02 2014 02:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.

It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.

Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer.

Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW.

YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time.


I was already suspicious of Sky. I had chosen a side long beforehand but Palmar came and did something really fucking scummy. So I voted him.

This is what happens when you don't read the game.

Pretty rich to attack a new replacement of not having read the game.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:19 GMT
#2382
*for not having
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:20 GMT
#2384
On October 02 2014 02:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.

Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.

So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.

Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.

He's saying that from everyone's perspective:

3 mafia.

IF you think 1 is mafia between Obi/Storr (based on D2 wagons) then there HAVE to be 2 in the other voters.

IF you think they are both mafia then there is only one in the other voters.

He's saying that from his perspective, he KNOWS there's at max 1 on Palmar (because he knows he is town)

Therefor he knows that there are AT LEAST 2 in the other voters, POSSIBLY 3. From his perspective.

Yeah, that is basic logic. It does not explain a townpass for Obi though.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:23 GMT
#2387
On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.

Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.

So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.

Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.

None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today.



You are impossible.


What is your updated read on me and obi.

Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
October 01 2014 17:25 GMT
#2391
On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.

Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.

So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.

Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.

None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today.



You are impossible.


What is your updated read on me and obi.

Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar.

In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question.

Good observation. Have a cookie.
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