Devil's Riddle Mafia

On September 23 2014 08:41 HaruRH wrote:


stahp oppressing my freedom with your freedom!

On September 24 2014 08:19 geript wrote:
I'm half tempted to flip CR to see if VE is confirmed town or not.

On September 24 2014 08:19 geript wrote:
I'm half tempted to flip CR to see if VE is confirmed town or not.

On September 24 2014 11:44 geript wrote:

Meh so I read OP wrong sue me.

On September 24 2014 15:48 geript wrote:
Either way Hapa, what did you want to know. Right now I'm kinda in the mood to check Grack, you, DP and Yam off of the lynch list and look at other people. That actually narrows down the field pretty heavily. I won't lie and say I'm not half tempted to lynch the fuck out of Abuse to see if he flips red though.

On September 24 2014 16:02 geript wrote:

To some extent it's the reminder from Yam, that Hapa does like his early game tunnels. To some extent it's just thinking that I'll be able to read Hapa more objectively when he's not tunneling me. To some extent it's Hapa's direction after tunneling me. I think he's kinda townreading you and yam; which makes him look at VE more. But that's a bit concerning now that I think about it because of the CR claim. This isn't making me think of him more positively which is yet another reason why I want to lynch the AFK Abuse. But I don't tend to have a good history of reading people correctly when they're tunneled on me unless it's already pretty mid-late game.

On September 25 2014 02:04 kushm4sta wrote:
ve seems 3p.

On September 24 2014 16:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay impressions before I go to bed:

There's likely one mafia in DP/Hapa based on how they both seem to be trying to buddy with him DURING their little argument. I have liked DP's posts since he came back and the way Hapa was trying to steer people away from leaving me off the lynch list earlier makes me think it's Hapa.

##Vote: Hapahauli

His whole "10 townie points for who can tell me why" was just nonsense to appear contributory because there wasn't one specific thing he was looking for as made evident by his "case" against geript a little later on. It's a clever little trick I sometimes use when I'm mafia - it makes the thread think you're reading closely and that you've noticed something and gosh, wouldn't it be cool if I noticed the same thing too? Not feelin it.

yamato is probably town - standard 1-liner posts, general observations...I don't like that he's suspicious of me, but not everyone is as perfect as me.

Damdred and I seem to be on the same wavelength at least in terms of what we're looking for to find mafia - gonna throw him in the townpile for now and see how I like that.

MM1 gets 1 Townie Brownie for making a decent case on Kush before he entered the thread. If we lynch a lurker instead of a scumspect, I'm willing to go with Kush based on MM1's observation. Will not lynch MM1 today.

CR hasn't said anything more in our QT. He's claimed 3rd Party in the thread. There you go.

On September 25 2014 02:52 VisceraEyes wrote:

GAH! *oldmanfist*

On September 25 2014 03:45 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I don't really like Hap, and i have no clue on DP. This is the first time i've ever played a game and probably the first time ive heard of him on TL

On September 25 2014 08:52 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
strongly reading as town

grack
Geript
Yamamoto
CR( Even though he is 99% 3rd party) i wouldn't lynch him

mafia worlds

VE (Alone) oats/damdred, oats play soo far has reminded me of when we played together in cell, Also not a fan of damdred who makes the case with oats in the morning and doesn't seem to re-evaluate whats happened throughout the day.

I don't know how much the other people are using the QT, but geript and i have only posted like 2-3 times each, and it seems that the general trend of town players is to discuss stuff in thread, and not so readily with their partners who could be mafia.

I could also see a world that you are scum, This is coming from a world that VE flips mafia where you bus your partner. for town cred, however i dont see this a very likely world though.

On September 25 2014 09:06 geript wrote:

I've explained it. Read my fucking filter. Perhaps you should use your brain cells for once. How many games in a row now have you *thought* that I was mafia and I was town? This is a big boy game so take off the pull ups and put on your big boy pants and your thinking cap.

On September 25 2014 09:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I've only played the cell game with oats, and in cell he barely contributed at all. He was not memorable and hasn't played differently than that game.

I think a few things have happened this game, and damdred has been keeping up on it. Oats also hasn't really said anything but calling geript and DP mafia. I don't think failing to change reads is a scumtell, i think newer information needs to be taken into account, and if it supports your reads or disagrees with your reads then it matters.

On September 25 2014 11:23 geript wrote:
@Hapa/Yam/VE/Prom
What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue.

On September 25 2014 13:10 geript wrote:

Yah well, you're going to have to convince me of a pair because I don't trust you fully and I think your read can be wrong and the implications of having a bad read there are exceptionally detrimental.

On September 25 2014 16:08 geript wrote:

I think the likeliest mafia/mafia pair is damdred/oats. I even just pointed out some shit about him at the top of the page. Right now with as ridiculously as CR is acting though, he might just actually be mafia and VE also be mafia. Part of the problem is I have no clue how to read Damdred as each and every time I've tried to read him I've thought he was scum and he was town. And each and every time he has no clue how to actually read me. So he might legitimately just be awful at reading me and a less experienced player. I just can't see how anything in his filter makes him town and I think there's good reason to think at least 1 person in each other group is town. Yes, deep down I still think CR is 3P but with how he's playing that's a crap shoot; and honestly I'm seriously betting not the martyr one.

On September 25 2014 19:27 DarthPunk wrote:
I want to know what damdred thinks about everything that isn't me.

##VOTE: Damdred

Let's dance bish.

On September 25 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

SORRY.

I dunno man, I thought my scumread on you was kinda out there but damdred agrees heartily with it. Which makes me fear for buddying. And that Im wrong.

You guys arent scum together.

Im not killing him today though, lotta other dudes who need killing.
Geript. CR. Prome possibly. vayne.

On September 26 2014 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
What do you mean "Like what"?

Im saying you might be buddying me because I didnt feel like I explained my scumread on DP well enough.

Anyway as I said, not interested in lynching you today.

Who Im interested in lynching.
PROMETHELAX.
His first content post is so bad.
He waffles around geript, posts about some not very relevent posts, then gives a bunch of reads with no reasoning and never attempts to make any effort, other than bitching to VE to give him reads, to get info to expand his scumreads. all his scumreads are "they havent done anything".
super weak.
Then he goes onto Vayne, none of the points he brings up is good.
His main point is that town Vayne would read the OP. Totally not a point at all. Why would scumVayne purposely push a case based on bad info? Literally it makes no sense to not check how the role works as scum because you dont want to get caught like that. Bad bad bad.
Continuing, he doesnt post about the biggest issue in the thread, the Hapa/VE stuff. Its huge. He doesnt care.
Showing that his mindset is off and isnt aware of the normal thread atmosphere cause hes scum.

OK.
##vote Promethelax

Hes gonna come back and post a wall of text but dont get suckered. Stay the course and LYNCH HIM.
Majority lynch.
no lynch is the absolute worst thing that can happen.

On September 26 2014 01:06 Grackaroni wrote:

Read Oats filter fast and tell me what you think

On September 26 2014 02:58 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
The reason i wanted to lynch oats over Damdred was in the case of it not being a MafiaxMafia pair, i would rather have damdred alive over oats.

One thing i did like was that Damdred didn't rush to town read his partner. Like most of the people in this thread have been doing.

On September 26 2014 03:23 Promethelax wrote:
same question to MM1 and Damdred.

Who is your best scum read and why? gogogo.

On September 27 2014 08:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
no point in lynching CR unless anyone CCs his 3rd party claim, loll wtf are people doing.

VE was mafia's most important player being in the 1 and 1 QT and he got lynched day 1. pretty much worst case scenario for mafia. We just have to start lynching all the other pairs now until we find the double mafia pairing...

day 1 made this game pretty anticlimatic.

On September 27 2014 12:09 DarthPunk wrote:


Man you are really not reading the thread are you.

On September 27 2014 18:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Does everyone remember how Damdred spent most of day one waiting for me to appear so he could talk with me?

This post here is the LAST time he actually develops the read on me. And how does he do it? By rehashing something he posted in his qt.

Seems like he is really invested in his scum read or trying to convince others to lynch him.



What is the next thing he posts about his major read from day one? The person he spoke at length about wanting to question:



At the time? So he doesn't scum read me anymore? Who the fuck knows. He has dropped his read on me with zero reasoning the read he used as an excuse to be unproductive prior to that.




Several issues within each. What issues? What is he talking about? No one knows because he doesn;t explain or extrapolate.

Non committal and saying nothing.



Cool now his top scum read is the biggest nobody lurker in the game. What happened to DP being scum? Who the fuck knows. But I find it very disingenuous that such a huge part of his day one scum hunting can just disappear into nothingness.



Out of nowhere He joins the VE wagon. ZERO explanation. Just hops on. LIke why? He didn;t even TRY to lynch his 'biggest scum read' MM or his previous obsession DP.

Looks Like a bus. Smells like a bus.

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I come in and try some last minute shenanigans.




OH LOOK HE SHEEPS HIS SCUM READ THAT HE DROPPED BUT NOW HAS AGAIN TO STOP THE VOTE ON VE WHO HE HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT.

Like look at the EXACT progression from Damdred and his VE read and bathe in the scumminess.











Oh shit VE was lynched, better salvage my town cred mang



But wait. Why is he questioning the Cr defender claim. At the time everyone in the thread should have been pretty sure that he WAS the defender. Because the alternative was so fucking INCOMPREHENSIBLE.

Off.



Oh look lost my other buddy. Give me town creds.

And today, all Damdred has done is push Vayne and IGNORED THE TWO PEOPLE HE WANTED TO LYNCH INSTEAD OF VE.

Damdred is scum

/thread

/game

On September 29 2014 10:55 DarthPunk wrote:


Why would I do that?