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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 02:00 GMT
#1367
Im feeling really try-hardy right so I'm going to articulate why I think Oats is the final mafia
On September 24 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
So anyway mafia can really really fucking easily claim 3p here and totally get away with it.
What the fuck guys.

grack really should know better.


Right away I think this is a sign of extra information. Every other person in the game just assumed that CR was legitimately a 3rd party because claiming 3rd party as mafia isn't a winning strategy in this setup. If CR gets CC'd he gets lynched and if the real 3rd party dies he gets lynched. Best case scenario the real 3rd party is poisoner/arson and he wants to work with mafia so he starts killing townie people which would inevitably put a target on CR's back.
On September 24 2014 18:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 17:46 DarthPunk wrote:
That is literally the worst case I have ever seen oats make.

Possibly.
Doesnt mean its wrong.

I noticed that you totally tiptoed around your hapa read, why?

Also,
why is hapa's case bad but then you agree with one of his points?

This again is a post that only I would want to pick out. In White Flag I called out Oats for calling himself and his reads bad and pushed him a bunch on that and he was mafia. I have a lot of trouble seeing town Oats respond to something like DP said in such a diplomatic manner. When Oats is town he's really loud and in your face; when oats is scum he acts passively and is really shifty.
On September 25 2014 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Prome calling me town is really weird.
So is hapa.
I have done pretty much nothing.

Geript calling me scum is bad.
His reasons are bad.
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 09:04 geript wrote:
On September 25 2014 08:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Um... I just explained it?

Also, how did I pass on Oats/Damdred? I find Damdred null. I find Oats town for reasons that I mentioned. I don't think it gets much clearer.

And the reasons you've townread Oats are fucking ridiculous. You can't say he's particularly out there. I don't have a townread on him and I have a rather good track record of reading him correctly. He hasn't been particularly in your face and, while he is to some extent doing his own thing (which is semi-towny for him), he's not particularly cared about any of his pushes (which is far more of his scum play). So yah, giving Oats a free pass is very odd.

I mean, I have like one fucking push dude. I have not posted anything following that push.
This read is just really lazy.

My scum play is more about agreeing with the best lynch or calling my scumbuddy 100% town. Im not doing that at all this game.

Yeah ok prome might just be scum but we lynch geript first.

vayne's vote on me is also bad. He votes like we have an ongoing vendetta but he seemed mroe interested in C earlier
##vote Geript

This is pretty much exactly what he did this game. Oats' first case was on Geript and he literally just rehashed everything Hapa said at the start of the game. For some reason he stuck on to that early read for an extremely long time, and it just doesn't make sense considering the fact that Hapa's case was from when Geript had made 6 posts in the thread and Geript's play had changed significantly since then. Static scum reads that don't evolve with the thread are a big scum tell in my opinion. I also agree with what Geript said inside the quote, Oat's isn't aggressively pushing his reads in the way I would expect from him as town. He just posts some reads and disappears.
On September 26 2014 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
What do you mean "Like what"?

Im saying you might be buddying me because I didnt feel like I explained my scumread on DP well enough.

Anyway as I said, not interested in lynching you today.

Who Im interested in lynching.
PROMETHELAX.
His first content post is so bad.
He waffles around geript, posts about some not very relevent posts, then gives a bunch of reads with no reasoning and never attempts to make any effort, other than bitching to VE to give him reads, to get info to expand his scumreads. all his scumreads are "they havent done anything".
super weak.
Then he goes onto Vayne, none of the points he brings up is good.
His main point is that town Vayne would read the OP. Totally not a point at all. Why would scumVayne purposely push a case based on bad info? Literally it makes no sense to not check how the role works as scum because you dont want to get caught like that. Bad bad bad.
Continuing, he doesnt post about the biggest issue in the thread, the Hapa/VE stuff. Its huge. He doesnt care.
Showing that his mindset is off and isnt aware of the normal thread atmosphere cause hes scum.


OK.
##vote Promethelax

Hes gonna come back and post a wall of text but dont get suckered. Stay the course and LYNCH HIM.
Majority lynch.
no lynch is the absolute worst thing that can happen.

Oats was one of the only people to really try to get an alternate case to Hapa's out there. (DP tried to make some last minute shenanigans.) This isn't really the kind of case I would expect to see from town Oats but maybe his play has changed a lot since I last saw it. Oats didn't mention the VE/Hapa stuff at all besides to say that VE seemed reasonable. If Oats was town reading VE and thought that the Hapa/VE stuff was huge it's really strange that he didn't make any attempt to defend VE at all and barely mentioned it himself.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 02:05 GMT
#1368
Kush is probably the 3rd party because he really doesn't give a fuck

VA is the other person I could see being mafia
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 02:15 GMT
#1369
What DP said actually make VA less likely. He won't get any real benefit out of that claim and it puts him at risk of being CC'd
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 02:58 GMT
#1371
Dandred had a point though. All of day 1 you said town was being stupid for not lynching CR and then day2 after VEs red flip you started arguing for lynching into pairs
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 03:14 GMT
#1379
Think we can vote to shorten this day?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 21:38 GMT
#1489
Oh cool 20 minutes until flip. The suspense is killing me.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 21:46 GMT
#1493
You really wanted to wait another 24 hours for CR's flip?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 21:59 GMT
#1498
Yamato can't play scum at all past day1 so I hope it is Yamato
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 23:40 GMT
#1514
I think Vaynes trying to figure out who wouldn't concede
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 23:42 GMT
#1517
On September 28 2014 08:41 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 08:40 Grackaroni wrote:
I think Vaynes trying to figure out who wouldn't concede


Who do you think is mafia. What do you think of yourself and MM1?

I think I'm awesome and the last mafia most likely Oats/DP maaaaybe Kush with a small chance of Yamato.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 23:46 GMT
#1520
Realistically I could have contributed more but it seemed like things were going fine and I didn't feel like trying really hard to write out a meta read on Oats for a different lynch day1 when my case would have probably just been ignored anyway.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 23:48 GMT
#1521
meh I don't think CR was trying to be misleading. You were one of the people not supportive of the VE lynch and you are one of the people I could see getting mad at CR and making him send the kp to prom instead of Geript.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 23:53 GMT
#1523
Yeah I really don't care about that. More of I think CR wanted to get the fact that he wanted to kill Geript off his chest.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 27 2014 23:59 GMT
#1525
you already said you thought CR slipped information so how is that the correct play now?

I think CR was truthful about the Geript statement and I didn't notice that the person that he told his teammates were angry at him was you.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 28 2014 00:07 GMT
#1527
lol ok I think that's fair. I agree I shouldn't take that to the bank. So, now I am going to go ahead and pick and choose and say that I believe this quote from CR was genuine
On September 27 2014 08:12 Chairman Ray wrote:
We were like so close to killing you too geript. I really wanted to kill you, but my scum partner was too stubborn about killing prom. If it were up to me, we would be in a decent spot.

Anyways, gg, was fun having a fakeclaim game


And say that this quote may OR may not be genuine
On September 27 2014 08:47 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2014 08:43 DarthPunk wrote:
LOLOLOLOLOLOL.'

##vote Chairman Ray.

P.S: Why the fuck would you claim third party?


This is my 8th game in a row rolling scum. I haven't played town in almost 2 years, and I hate playing scum. I gotta do something to keep things interesting.

My mafia teammates were not very happy with it either.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 28 2014 00:16 GMT
#1529
I lied about everything in Titanic because I just like to troll/fuck with people.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 28 2014 02:20 GMT
#1540
I would respond but I legitimately don't understand any of that
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 28 2014 02:25 GMT
#1541
Oh you're misreading my posts. I was saying that I liked Hapa's response to me questioning why wanting to look for the 2 mafia pair was scummy. I wasn't agreeing that my idea to narrow CR/VE out of the lynch pool was scummy.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 28 2014 02:40 GMT
#1544
On September 28 2014 11:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont get geript's case.

Hey grack am I still scum?

Yeah I still think it could be you
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
September 28 2014 20:57 GMT
#1573
I really haven't seen any decent reasoning for me being mafia. Everyone is complaining about me being useless but I think I've been objectively more useful than most players this game. I didn't write a case day1, but I did contribute to VE getting lynched. I suggested to Prom that VE was the reasonable lynch to consolidate on to before Prom started telling people to vote VE and before Hapa came back to get more votes on VE. If it looked like someone I didn't want to be lynched was going to be lynched and I had been needed to help move the lynch I would have done it. Sure I posted less than DP, and all DP did day1 was try to make a last minute switch off of mafia and scumread hapa. I posted less than Geript and Geript was apprehensive about consolidating on to VE because he wanted to look for the 2 mafia pair.

Basically I'm content with what I've done this game and the amount of effort I've put in. If people want to call me scummy without good reasoning or if the DP/Geript/Yamato/Prom group wants to circle jerk each other and call me useless so be it.
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