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On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I never meant to make it sound like loaf is town, though I did use the word town. What I should have said, in hindsight, is 'I no longer read loafery scum based on his explanation of his misunderstanding.'
What?
On October 07 2014 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2. Exactly why this guy is town. He wanted a free win.
That's more than just using the word town. That's straight up claiming he IS town. How are you so sure of his intentions?
##FoS Fecalfeast
On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rad, anything else to add to the discussion of lurkers? I see you're thinking the same as I am regarding the low activity players but you've spent most of your posts discussing what other people are saying. Anything from your point of view to add? You mentioned superbia disliking the wagon, what does that tell when compared to the way he is playing? Anything?
It tells me that he recognizes the wagon on loaf is sketchy as hell. I agree with his assessment.
On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you? You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum? Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote.
Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply?
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On October 08 2014 10:41 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:24 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".
But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.
Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting. still a whole day left and i want to hear his side of the story because you still look more scummy than zen atm. So did you read the entire post or not? Were you like "oh I'm not reading it because he's scum". Or did you read it and conclude I was scum? How does this work? If you think my case is good then stop reading me as scum. If you think my case is bad please tell me why it's bad. your reasons seem arbitrary i don't see why it matters whether he lies/slipsup upon reading abuses' posts or the thread. You don't have any other reason than that. It's like you're desperately trying to find any fault in zen to take the heat off of yourself.
Why is he lying? Why is he rushing to make a push? Do you feel that the general mindset behind his post came from a townie perspective. Again, please stop being vague about this. I've explained the scum-rationale behind it. If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask, but if you don't agree with it you need to be specific. Do you feel like I'm lying about it coming from a scummy perspective? Are all the points I brought up not relevant and scummy?
Also want to point out that there is relatively little heat on me, and I don't get pressured into anything as either alignment.
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On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I never meant to make it sound like loaf is town, though I did use the word town. What I should have said, in hindsight, is 'I no longer read loafery scum based on his explanation of his misunderstanding.'
What? Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2. Exactly why this guy is town. He wanted a free win. That's more than just using the word town. That's straight up claiming he IS town. How are you so sure of his intentions? ##FoS Fecalfeast Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rad, anything else to add to the discussion of lurkers? I see you're thinking the same as I am regarding the low activity players but you've spent most of your posts discussing what other people are saying. Anything from your point of view to add? You mentioned superbia disliking the wagon, what does that tell when compared to the way he is playing? Anything?
It tells me that he recognizes the wagon on loaf is sketchy as hell. I agree with his assessment. Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you? You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum? Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply?
i think this is just bad town play by ff not recalling what he wrote exactly...i mean no one has their own filters up while making a post do they.
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On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you? You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum? Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply?
I am currently quite certain of my case. Also pressure helps. Have you read my case? What do you think? Any reason why you're not voting on zen that you can directly relate to my case?
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On October 08 2014 10:52 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:41 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:24 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".
But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.
Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting. still a whole day left and i want to hear his side of the story because you still look more scummy than zen atm. So did you read the entire post or not? Were you like "oh I'm not reading it because he's scum". Or did you read it and conclude I was scum? How does this work? If you think my case is good then stop reading me as scum. If you think my case is bad please tell me why it's bad. your reasons seem arbitrary i don't see why it matters whether he lies/slipsup upon reading abuses' posts or the thread. You don't have any other reason than that. It's like you're desperately trying to find any fault in zen to take the heat off of yourself. Why is he lying? Why is he rushing to make a push? Do you feel that the general mindset behind his post came from a townie perspective. Again, please stop being vague about this. I've explained the scum-rationale behind it. If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask, but if you don't agree with it you need to be specific. Do you feel like I'm lying about it coming from a scummy perspective? Are all the points I brought up not relevant and scummy? Also want to point out that there is relatively little heat on me, and I don't get pressured into anything as either alignment.
i beg to differ there has been several ppl calling you out for just staying in the background letting others do the work.
for the answers you're looking for we have to wait for zen to reply.
Don't you think mafia would just say that they agree with abuse or just stay quiet rather than just make a massive post.
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On October 08 2014 10:59 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:52 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:41 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:24 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".
But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.
Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting. still a whole day left and i want to hear his side of the story because you still look more scummy than zen atm. So did you read the entire post or not? Were you like "oh I'm not reading it because he's scum". Or did you read it and conclude I was scum? How does this work? If you think my case is good then stop reading me as scum. If you think my case is bad please tell me why it's bad. your reasons seem arbitrary i don't see why it matters whether he lies/slipsup upon reading abuses' posts or the thread. You don't have any other reason than that. It's like you're desperately trying to find any fault in zen to take the heat off of yourself. Why is he lying? Why is he rushing to make a push? Do you feel that the general mindset behind his post came from a townie perspective. Again, please stop being vague about this. I've explained the scum-rationale behind it. If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask, but if you don't agree with it you need to be specific. Do you feel like I'm lying about it coming from a scummy perspective? Are all the points I brought up not relevant and scummy? Also want to point out that there is relatively little heat on me, and I don't get pressured into anything as either alignment. i beg to differ there has been several ppl calling you out for just staying in the background letting others do the work. for the answers you're looking for we have to wait for zen to reply. Don't you think mafia would just say that they agree with abuse or just stay quiet rather than just make a massive post.
Mafia generally doesn't hide like that. If you're not proactive you will get called out.
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On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I never meant to make it sound like loaf is town, though I did use the word town. What I should have said, in hindsight, is 'I no longer read loafery scum based on his explanation of his misunderstanding.'
What? Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2. Exactly why this guy is town. He wanted a free win. That's more than just using the word town. That's straight up claiming he IS town. How are you so sure of his intentions? ##FoS Fecalfeast Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rad, anything else to add to the discussion of lurkers? I see you're thinking the same as I am regarding the low activity players but you've spent most of your posts discussing what other people are saying. Anything from your point of view to add? You mentioned superbia disliking the wagon, what does that tell when compared to the way he is playing? Anything?
It tells me that he recognizes the wagon on loaf is sketchy as hell. I agree with his assessment. Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:
Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you? You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum? Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply?
Nice find but again, I mistyped. I meant towny not definitive town. Should I do a full explanation of my thoughts and reasoning about loaf to clear this up? To summarize, I read him null and attempted to signify that by calling him town(y) after I saw him as scummy.
When there is a person who straight-up lied to town and got called out for it, why are you ignoring him and targeting one of the only people who tried to stop the witch-hunt on loaf? I'm confused by your motivations for calling me out.
You then go on to question super for trying to get people to lynch a liar. Believe me, I am reluctant to pressure with votes but even I can't deny that zen looks trashy right now.
Maybe you should post your thoughts on a few people. I'm not one for list posts but even a brief write-up on zen, loaf and myself would be great I hardly know where you stand right now.
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Vote count:
loafery (2): abuse, Elvis!
The_Zen_Man (3): Superbia, Fecalfeast, Breshke
Not voting (4): dusts, The_Zen_Man, Rad, loafery
Currently, The_Zen_Man is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Wednesday, Oct 08 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory!
If there are errors, please let us know.
+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +VOTE: abuse voted loafery ( post) VOTE: Elvis! voted loafery ( post) VOTE: Superbia voted The_Zen_Man ( post) VOTE: Fecalfeast voted The_Zen_Man ( postVOTE: Breshke voted The_Zen_Man ( post
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On October 08 2014 11:01 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:59 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:52 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:41 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:24 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".
But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.
Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting. still a whole day left and i want to hear his side of the story because you still look more scummy than zen atm. So did you read the entire post or not? Were you like "oh I'm not reading it because he's scum". Or did you read it and conclude I was scum? How does this work? If you think my case is good then stop reading me as scum. If you think my case is bad please tell me why it's bad. your reasons seem arbitrary i don't see why it matters whether he lies/slipsup upon reading abuses' posts or the thread. You don't have any other reason than that. It's like you're desperately trying to find any fault in zen to take the heat off of yourself. Why is he lying? Why is he rushing to make a push? Do you feel that the general mindset behind his post came from a townie perspective. Again, please stop being vague about this. I've explained the scum-rationale behind it. If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask, but if you don't agree with it you need to be specific. Do you feel like I'm lying about it coming from a scummy perspective? Are all the points I brought up not relevant and scummy? Also want to point out that there is relatively little heat on me, and I don't get pressured into anything as either alignment. i beg to differ there has been several ppl calling you out for just staying in the background letting others do the work. for the answers you're looking for we have to wait for zen to reply. Don't you think mafia would just say that they agree with abuse or just stay quiet rather than just make a massive post. Mafia generally doesn't hide like that. If you're not proactive you will get called out.
yes you weren't proactive before anyone called you out. Then you make this claim on zen and immediately vote him as scum while not even waiting for his response. A bit too quick to rush into thing imo.
Mafia hides. Gets called out. Makes claim with an arbitrary post on reasons I can't agree with. So scummy.
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On October 08 2014 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I never meant to make it sound like loaf is town, though I did use the word town. What I should have said, in hindsight, is 'I no longer read loafery scum based on his explanation of his misunderstanding.'
What? On October 07 2014 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2. Exactly why this guy is town. He wanted a free win. That's more than just using the word town. That's straight up claiming he IS town. How are you so sure of his intentions? ##FoS Fecalfeast On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rad, anything else to add to the discussion of lurkers? I see you're thinking the same as I am regarding the low activity players but you've spent most of your posts discussing what other people are saying. Anything from your point of view to add? You mentioned superbia disliking the wagon, what does that tell when compared to the way he is playing? Anything?
It tells me that he recognizes the wagon on loaf is sketchy as hell. I agree with his assessment. On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
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Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?
You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?
Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply? Nice find but again, I mistyped. I meant towny not definitive town. Should I do a full explanation of my thoughts and reasoning about loaf to clear this up? To summarize, I read him null and attempted to signify that by calling him town(y) after I saw him as scummy. When there is a person who straight-up lied to town and got called out for it, why are you ignoring him and targeting one of the only people who tried to stop the witch-hunt on loaf? I'm confused by your motivations for calling me out. You then go on to question super for trying to get people to lynch a liar. Believe me, I am reluctant to pressure with votes but even I can't deny that zen looks trashy right now. Maybe you should post your thoughts on a few people. I'm not one for list posts but even a brief write-up on zen, loaf and myself would be great I hardly know where you stand right now.
EBWOP: "... lied to THE town..." before anyone thinks I'm calling someone confirmed town...
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On October 08 2014 11:06 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 11:01 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:59 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:52 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:41 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:24 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".
But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.
Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting. still a whole day left and i want to hear his side of the story because you still look more scummy than zen atm. So did you read the entire post or not? Were you like "oh I'm not reading it because he's scum". Or did you read it and conclude I was scum? How does this work? If you think my case is good then stop reading me as scum. If you think my case is bad please tell me why it's bad. your reasons seem arbitrary i don't see why it matters whether he lies/slipsup upon reading abuses' posts or the thread. You don't have any other reason than that. It's like you're desperately trying to find any fault in zen to take the heat off of yourself. Why is he lying? Why is he rushing to make a push? Do you feel that the general mindset behind his post came from a townie perspective. Again, please stop being vague about this. I've explained the scum-rationale behind it. If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask, but if you don't agree with it you need to be specific. Do you feel like I'm lying about it coming from a scummy perspective? Are all the points I brought up not relevant and scummy? Also want to point out that there is relatively little heat on me, and I don't get pressured into anything as either alignment. i beg to differ there has been several ppl calling you out for just staying in the background letting others do the work. for the answers you're looking for we have to wait for zen to reply. Don't you think mafia would just say that they agree with abuse or just stay quiet rather than just make a massive post. Mafia generally doesn't hide like that. If you're not proactive you will get called out. yes you weren't proactive before anyone called you out. Then you make this claim on zen and immediately vote him as scum while not even waiting for his response. A bit too quick to rush into thing imo. Mafia hides. Gets called out. Makes claim with an arbitrary post on reasons I can't agree with. So scummy.
I like your thought process and I like that you aren't afraid to express your thoughts but one person has a plain-as-day contradiction to answer for, and the other person pointed out the contradiction. Regardless of your feelings toward super, what do you think of his case against zen? If you think his case is flawed, explain that. If not, why do you think super is a bigger target than zen?
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On October 08 2014 11:06 loafery wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 11:01 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:59 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:52 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:41 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:27 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:24 loafery wrote:On October 08 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Have you read the post? Because it's not "he's following a band wagon".
But yeah, I was reading people sort of being iffy on me, so I decided to really quickly thoroughly analyze everything that has happened in the game and then really quickly make a thorough post on it. Good timing though, because you almost called me scum! Oh wait, that was sarcasm.
Please stop being a donkey and vote for zen or give a good reason why you're not voting. still a whole day left and i want to hear his side of the story because you still look more scummy than zen atm. So did you read the entire post or not? Were you like "oh I'm not reading it because he's scum". Or did you read it and conclude I was scum? How does this work? If you think my case is good then stop reading me as scum. If you think my case is bad please tell me why it's bad. your reasons seem arbitrary i don't see why it matters whether he lies/slipsup upon reading abuses' posts or the thread. You don't have any other reason than that. It's like you're desperately trying to find any fault in zen to take the heat off of yourself. Why is he lying? Why is he rushing to make a push? Do you feel that the general mindset behind his post came from a townie perspective. Again, please stop being vague about this. I've explained the scum-rationale behind it. If you have any additional questions please feel free to ask, but if you don't agree with it you need to be specific. Do you feel like I'm lying about it coming from a scummy perspective? Are all the points I brought up not relevant and scummy? Also want to point out that there is relatively little heat on me, and I don't get pressured into anything as either alignment. i beg to differ there has been several ppl calling you out for just staying in the background letting others do the work. for the answers you're looking for we have to wait for zen to reply. Don't you think mafia would just say that they agree with abuse or just stay quiet rather than just make a massive post. Mafia generally doesn't hide like that. If you're not proactive you will get called out. yes you weren't proactive before anyone called you out. Then you make this claim on zen and immediately vote him as scum while not even waiting for his response. A bit too quick to rush into thing imo. Mafia hides. Gets called out. Makes claim with an arbitrary post on reasons I can't agree with. So scummy.
I was fine with how the day was going, which I had exclaimed at multiple points in time. I wanted to get as much information as possible (partially by virtue of votes on you). When I felt like town was stagnating I decided to analyze said information. I'm never directly interested in the first wagon, it generally never hits. You really need to re-evaluate me if you're town. Start off by taking my case seriously.
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I'm here for 30 or so more minutes, then I wont be on until 06:00 GMT (+00:00)
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On October 08 2014 11:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm here for 30 or so more minutes, then I wont be on until 06:00 GMT (+00:00)
That changes to a different timezone than the one in my profile but I'll be here at 10pm PST (-08:00)
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super you're picking at technicalities in zen's post which don't mean anything. saying he didn't read through the thread doesn't mean he didn't read anything at all. I don't like how you're knick picking at wording when i also faced the same scrutiny of town and "confirmed town"
I seriously want zen to post to clear this up. I don't want ppl to be lynched based on wording and the accusations of trying to win town points.
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On October 08 2014 10:58 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
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Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?
You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?
Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply? I am currently quite certain of my case. Also pressure helps. Have you read my case? What do you think? Any reason why you're not voting on zen that you can directly relate to my case?
Careless scum caught in a lie or rushed newbie townie?
Well...
Could a newbie town think he needs to contribute but isn't sure how? Yes.
Could a newbie town think that giving his rushed initial impressions is better than not? Yes.
So the question here is - was he caught in a lie?
My answer is... how could we actually be sure? Your case on him could very well be applied to a newbie town who doesn't have a lot of time to contribute (which he claimed was the case).
I've presented my concern for him wanting others to do the work for him, which IMO is quite scummy. I understand your case but don't feel it follows that he was necessarily lying. I'm patiently awaiting some more input from him now that there's a whole lot more content for him to read.
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Town has no need to rush here.
I agree Superbia. So why are you pushing people so hard to vote for him? "Just vote, you can always retract your vote." - what even is this? The pressure play would be you presenting a case and voting for him. What exactly could you accomplish by getting people to artificially vote for him? (psssst he can read this thread too and will know who's voting for him just cause you said so and who's voting for him cause they believe he's mafia)
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On October 08 2014 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 10:49 Rad wrote:On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
I never meant to make it sound like loaf is town, though I did use the word town. What I should have said, in hindsight, is 'I no longer read loafery scum based on his explanation of his misunderstanding.'
What? On October 07 2014 10:21 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 07 2014 10:18 loafery wrote:
Yup everyone had a role and all we had to do was reveal our roles and i think it ended on day 2. Exactly why this guy is town. He wanted a free win. That's more than just using the word town. That's straight up claiming he IS town. How are you so sure of his intentions? ##FoS Fecalfeast On October 08 2014 09:53 Fecalfeast wrote:
Rad, anything else to add to the discussion of lurkers? I see you're thinking the same as I am regarding the low activity players but you've spent most of your posts discussing what other people are saying. Anything from your point of view to add? You mentioned superbia disliking the wagon, what does that tell when compared to the way he is playing? Anything?
It tells me that he recognizes the wagon on loaf is sketchy as hell. I agree with his assessment. On October 08 2014 10:16 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 10:09 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 03:51 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 03:29 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 02:40 The_Zen_Man wrote:As of now loafey is still highest on my scum list but im not sure if he is just a newbie/bad player or scum. Im gonna see more of his posts before I decide to vote for him or not. For now, i will settle with this.] Mind sharing who else is on your scum list? Right now the list is just loafey, but this is because other people haven't been as active. As ff said, this game is moving too slow, and that is because people haven't been active at all. We still have players that haven't said anything beyond their first day post, which was not that much. @Fecalfeast: I think the reason people have gone after loafrey so hard is because there really isn't that much else to go on. His play has been the most scummy like, and that is probably why everyone is going after him. Right now, i really don't have anyone else in mind at all as scum. If someone does find someone else scummy, please share. Why does this not make you point your FoS (thanks super I was pretending to know what FoS meant) at someone who hopped on the loaf-wagon? "His play is the most scummy-like" As implied by him being the only name on your list. What makes his play scummy like to you? Might I guess that your answer will be 'What abuse said but with less conviction?' On October 08 2014 06:18 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 08 2014 05:06 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:44 Superbia wrote:On October 08 2014 04:36 The_Zen_Man wrote:On October 08 2014 04:19 Rad wrote:
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Isn't that pretty much the only job that town has? To find things that are scummy and pursue them. Any reason you're asking others to do that for you?
You say no one else seems scummy to you, are you suggesting that it's probably loafery or the lurkers that are scum?
Why are you taking the easy route here? It wasn't meant as others doing it for me, rather that others should contribute. Right now there are like 4 people that has only like 3 posts on this thread. I can't really find mafia if i don't have much to go on. I did as much as i could with the info i had at the time. No, im saying that i haven't found anything scummy with the people that have posted other than loafrey. That dosen't mean all mafia are either him or the lurkers, just that i have not found anything suspicious about anyone else. Im not taking any easy route, I have done as much as I can with the given information. You found out that your arguments were already used by others to push loaf. Do you like the people who pushed on loaf for the same reason? Yeah, abuse is probably the one that had most of my arguments already written. I do however not share all of abuses opinions and do believe that he is pushing for loaf too hard. I would for instance not vote on him this early, as it is definetly too early to prove that he is a scum. Better to simply do a FoS, as it will give an indicitation of what you think of the person, but not have all dirt throwback that often comes with voting on someone. What it looks to me like super was really asking is what you think of abuse based on abuse's reads. You say he is pushing a little too hard, why? Mostly it was because of the vote. But i also think that some of his arguments are a little more hardline than mine. I share most of abuses opinions on loaf, but i think the biggest thing we differ on is the whole loaf asking about roles thing. I really think that loaf was merely confused and asking about the rules when he said we all should claim roles, and I believe him when he says it was like that on another game. Your reasoning for differing from abuse's opinion is that you believe he misinterpreted the rules. Nobody is using that fact anymore and the basis of abuse's argument is more on how loaf words his posts, not how he read the OP. I'm still a little gun-shy with voting people like this but you have some things to answer for, zen... Just vote, you can always retract your vote. Why are you so hell bent on getting the votes for zen at this stage? Why is your vote not enough while we wait for zen to reply? Nice find but again, I mistyped. I meant towny not definitive town. Should I do a full explanation of my thoughts and reasoning about loaf to clear this up? To summarize, I read him null and attempted to signify that by calling him town(y) after I saw him as scummy.
Heh. Typo on the word town? O.o Whatever, I'm not going to sit here and argue with you on that.
On October 08 2014 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
When there is a person who straight-up lied to town and got called out for it, why are you ignoring him and targeting one of the only people who tried to stop the witch-hunt on loaf? I'm confused by your motivations for calling me out.
Why wouldn't I call you out for such an obvious contradiction?
On October 08 2014 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:
You then go on to question super for trying to get people to lynch a liar. Believe me, I am reluctant to pressure with votes but even I can't deny that zen looks trashy right now.
See my recent post about the whole liar scenario.
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Believe me
No thanks.
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I'm not one for list posts but even a brief write-up on zen, loaf and myself would be great I hardly know where you stand right now.
Lists are pointless.
You should know where I stand on both zen and yourself.
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