Like if rayn asks me to claim I'll do it. I trust him before the check, and there is 0 reason not to trust him after it. Or to be specific, his motives. And I think rayn is smart enough dood and he has played this setup enough so I'll cast my lot with his plan.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 17:10 GMT

#2001

Yes

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 18:52 GMT

#2006

geript what is the certainty of your yamato read?

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:14 GMT

#2013

It seems to me that by the way ritoky harped on and on about Koshi that Koshi was most likely town, and that Oats was the mafia that prevented the exorcism lynch from HaruRH. So unless you feel sure that Koshi was mafia, doing that kind of associate read is pretty loose.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:16 GMT

#2014

geript, I'm gonna pull something out of your books. I don't post as scum. I do post somewhat as town. Do some meta read off my filter sizes. Ezpz, I can't be scum.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:30 GMT

#2018

It's like everyone somehow got a townread on LM early, and never bothered touching it again. Like, I'm mildly baffled how yamato is having trouble deciding between us. I've been here for all the major points of discussion and talking about stuff, I believe I've been quite transparent of all my reads etc, Oats the probs scum had that weird dig against me, ritoky just flat out refused to make a read on me all game, and I'm still here talking about stuff. I say mildly because many people have suspected me all game, I'm guessing primarily because they found my early setup talk boring or my questions to be weak, which I could see but I don't see how it is indicative of me being scum.

I'm quite heavily inclined on LoneMeow scum as he hasn't been involved in anything, and has only done provisional singleton posts these past two cycles, of which there isn't any figuring out being done, merely agreement with what most people have made. Yamato is a distant second by PoE but even then it's like meh.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:32 GMT

#2019

On September 17 2014 05:26 geript wrote:

Show nested quote +

No I disagree. Scum tend to talk about past lynches etc correctly. Plus why talk about it if koshi were town. That puts you in the spotlight for no reason and gives him no thread pull benefit. Plus Koshi being scum explains why the martyr claim wasn't healed.

I mean he got away with making 0 productive discussion by talking about Koshi. And we forgave him for it. Like, people told him to shut up about Koshi but people weren't all "bro you scum?".

Not sure what Koshi scum martyr interaction means. Koshi got judged off. Someone else was shot and martyr took the kill, and scum got a rolecop off. What is martyr claim being healed?

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:34 GMT

#2020

Like a town Oats would have ripped ritoky a new one for doing what he did. Oats is very linear / straightforward in his approach to mafia and finds anyone who does things in a "roundabout" way as scum.

E.g. Oats calls me out for setup talk and my questions. He drills me on that. Yet he makes no substantial comment of ritoky whole game.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:37 GMT

#2021

On September 05 2014 05:03 ritoky wrote:
6 - In the theme of lurkers, Town Jesus believes a conscious choice needs to be made about yamato77 if he doesn't pick up his posting. I will give LoneMeow the benefit of a day because I think he is a new player to pick up the posting. However, many a game has Town Jesus waited for yamato77 to pick up the posting late into a game and it is never delivered; and ultimately he either ends up being mafia or becoming an easy late lurker mislynch for mafia in the late game. We should come together and decide on him sooner rather than later if he continues his drought of posting.

This is one of ritoky's few posts on LM. Notice how he brings up the topic of lurkers, brings up yamato for lurking, brings up LM for the sake of completeness but excuses him, and then quickly moves back to yamato.

I mean, if you want to make associative reads, I'd consider this more substantial given how we know ritoky is scum and yamato is an alive player right now.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:40 GMT

#2023

Yea I've convinced myself at this point. LM is scum. He isn't doing anything himself to figure stuff out while calling out yamato for not doing anything. IIRC he did the same calling Damdred scum for not pushing me as scum while he himself also didn't do it. Yamato has a history of being lazy yamato, so more excusable.

##vote: LoneMeow

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:41 GMT

#2025

On September 17 2014 05:38 geript wrote:
Let's approach this a different way. What are your hesitations about Yamato Sloosh?

He doesn't read as strong of town read as I have on you or rayn. It's not that I think he is scum, it's just that the same level of certainty is not there.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:42 GMT

#2026

Yamato is less likely to be mafia because LoneMeow is more likely to be mafia.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:50 GMT

#2028

More specifically, he shut down potentially good mislynches in Syl D1 and geript D2 ... and Damdred somewhere in there.

My only gripe about him is that he has fallen on the "wrong side" concerning the ritoky / Damdred cc event, and that I'm put in the same category as LoneMeow, but that's just Omgus / being wrong which isn't necessarily scummy.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 20:54 GMT

#2030

Ah. We are ready to end this?

Changing vote now.

slOosh

3291 Posts

September 16 2014 21:30 GMT

#2037

Yippee!

slOosh

3291 Posts