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slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 02 2014 16:52 GMT
#27
/in
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 02 2014 17:04 GMT
#28
Soup! Soup! Soup!

Does Soup only reveal playername given a successful initial Soup and a failed followup Soup?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 02:23 GMT
#43
I'm gonna roll witch and spend the game fishing for roles, then soup all the way. Siiccckkk
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 20:44 GMT
#69
... Did TL's font change just recently? What's going on
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 22:57 GMT
#89
Why?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 23:15 GMT
#104
I think the best thing to do is be very familiar with the roles, and not just your own. There are several mechanics that confirm yourself as town to others and vice versa. Don't want to go in detail but there's definitely some tricks I see you could pull off to gain an edge.

Obviously we should be very wary of claiming.

Besides that if someone could tell me how to fix the font on my screen that would be great as it's really annoying to read in a different type than what you've been used to.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 23:19 GMT
#115
Could someone link the old witch setup?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 23:21 GMT
#119
On September 04 2014 08:20 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?

I like this point. HarURH is my second lynch of choice currently.

Please explain in your words why HaruRH is likely to be scum.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 23:32 GMT
#131
On September 04 2014 08:26 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:21 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:20 geript wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?

I like this point. HarURH is my second lynch of choice currently.

Please explain in your words why HaruRH is likely to be scum.

Look at how he's approaching the grail. It's a very odd series of thoughts; more importantly, it's far less likely to come from town that "X and Y are super important for town to win, let's give X and Y the grail" without any questions as to whether or not they're actually town. Plus the "grail bearer is going to die automatically, so lets give it to X and Y important people" isn't exactly a logical thought process.

Ehh I don't think HaruRH is mafia for that given how his next post talks about the martyr saving that person. I disagree with your interpretation.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 23:39 GMT
#136
On September 04 2014 08:35 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:32 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:26 geript wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:21 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:20 geript wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?

I like this point. HarURH is my second lynch of choice currently.

Please explain in your words why HaruRH is likely to be scum.

Look at how he's approaching the grail. It's a very odd series of thoughts; more importantly, it's far less likely to come from town that "X and Y are super important for town to win, let's give X and Y the grail" without any questions as to whether or not they're actually town. Plus the "grail bearer is going to die automatically, so lets give it to X and Y important people" isn't exactly a logical thought process.

Ehh I don't think HaruRH is mafia for that given how his next post talks about the martyr saving that person. I disagree with your interpretation.

Why do you think his talk about martyr saving the bearer makes his town?

I think that your second claim of "grail bearer is going to die so let's give it to important people" is a caricature of what HaruRH said, and I think his followup post of having the martyr save the grail holder such that we don't lose both grail and strong player in one go is a reasonable one to hold.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 23:40 GMT
#137
Koshi, do you agree with geript's analysis on HaruRH?

gobbledydook, who should we give the grail to and why?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 03 2014 23:49 GMT
#143
On September 04 2014 08:47 gobbledydook wrote:
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On September 04 2014 08:40 slOosh wrote:
Koshi, do you agree with geript's analysis on HaruRH?

gobbledydook, who should we give the grail to and why?


geript is a very reasonable man. I also think we should give it to him. geript doesn't seem like someone who would go full retard like robik. I trust he will use his powers wisely.

##HolyGrail: geript

Even though you disagree with his first read? Please explain.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 00:02 GMT
#153
On September 04 2014 08:54 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:49 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:47 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:40 slOosh wrote:
Koshi, do you agree with geript's analysis on HaruRH?

gobbledydook, who should we give the grail to and why?


geript is a very reasonable man. I also think we should give it to him. geript doesn't seem like someone who would go full retard like robik. I trust he will use his powers wisely.

##HolyGrail: geript

Even though you disagree with his first read? Please explain.


geript ninja'ed me. I was talking about how ridiculous robiks 'verbose' scumread of me was.

I'm confused so I'll ask again.

You voted geript to hold the grail. You also disagreed with his read on HaruRH. I'm curious why you would want to give the grail to someone whose reads differ from you.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 00:10 GMT
#159
What you think he is scum for not considering the possibility of geript scum?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 00:49 GMT
#164
Wanna elaborate on which part specifically?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 03:53 GMT
#204
ritoky, what should we do with the Grail?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 05:03 GMT
#251
... This game is already starting to be a migraine ...

Guys, please try to condense your posts / refrain from posting side comments to reduce spam. It affects how well we can re-read thread in the future. Also if possible please cut down on the cussing. It seems unnecessary.

As for claiming roles before death, I'm not too sure how that benefits us to do so. I feel like the difference it would make is near endgame but I think it would assist in Witch Soup combos more than benefiting town somehow.

Additionally, not too sure what we are trying to do with the Oracle night alignments. For us to use the information the Oracle receives, he essentially has to out himself and will promptly get Witch Souped next round. I feel like the best play may be just to let people do what they think is best, and then organize things as the game progresses.

If you are talking about claiming roles after death in Angel QT, that seems poor too. It's still valuable information so I'm not sure what claiming achieves.

On September 04 2014 13:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On September 04 2014 12:53 slOosh wrote:
ritoky, what should we do with the Grail?

Why are you asking ritoky. And why are you asking such a useless question

Because its a potential source of information, and even if you think it is useless the fact that other people don't means that it isn't.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 05:09 GMT
#254
Ok this is nonsense what's going on so I'm gonna shut it down independent of Oats' actual alignment.

Oats is posturing into a position where he is blaming people and saying that they aren't scumhunting. Realize that this itself isn't scumhunting. You tell me what Oats has done to scum hunt. Nothing. That question at this point is total bogus.

Not only that his actions are shutting down potentially good town discussion of setup. While in normal games setup talk is something scum favor because it is safe to do, this is a unique theme game, and setup talk can be very pro town. The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.

Oats, now to you specifically, this game is unique theme. Don't just port over heuristics lazily and pretend you are all that. If you have specific things you want to grill me on, then go ahead, but I'm asking you to change your current approach of pointing fingers at everyone.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 05:24 GMT
#258
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
September 04 2014 05:30 GMT
#261
On September 04 2014 14:28 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.


agree with gobble, not sylencia.

Cool. Could you elaborate on the difference you perceive? Because I'm of the opinion their approaches to it are similar.
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