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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:08 GMT
#813
so can anyone explain to me their town read on oats, cuz i am not very fond of the dude anymore, but no one else seems to be.

i mean the guy placed a late throwaway vote on himself for grail which doesn't help us get any info in the future at all, i looked at his filter and outside of his tunnel on koshi for a feeling he had early game he basically has 0 clearly stated reads, and he has just been walkin around accusing people.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:12 GMT
#814
On September 07 2014 02:03 yamato77 wrote:
ritoky, throw your support behind my campaign and we'll lynch rayn


aren't i tied for or in the lead? i know i am town, sooo....?

also could you give me bulletpoints on the lynch rayn movement? i inherently don't like him cuz i remember him suggesting we lynch all the lurkers very early on and his weird bromantic relationship with geript where i couldn't tell which one was pocketing the other; but those aren't overwhelming reasons to lynch.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:14 GMT
#816
damdred, 3 bullets and a sniper rifle to shoot 3 people right now. who you shooting? go!

“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:14 GMT
#817
On September 07 2014 02:13 Damdred wrote:
Last page I made a case against him ritoky


cool i am like 1 page away from that, will read shortly
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:22 GMT
#821
On September 07 2014 02:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 02:08 ritoky wrote:
so can anyone explain to me their town read on oats, cuz i am not very fond of the dude anymore, but no one else seems to be.

i mean the guy placed a late throwaway vote on himself for grail which doesn't help us get any info in the future at all, i looked at his filter and outside of his tunnel on koshi for a feeling he had early game he basically has 0 clearly stated reads, and he has just been walkin around accusing people.

I just reviewed arnie got a gun real quick. I called oats obv town n0/d1 and i was wrong, so i read that game. oats gives 0 reads in his first 2 pages of his filter. Like absolutely none. He's taking stances this game from what i remember and it seems he's trying to solve the game. Also, we read certain situations similarly, which makes me feel good about him


idk i don't particularly think he has given solid reads outside of the koshi one, but i can back off for now. he did think exactly like me a couple times which makes my ego feel good.

also robik, i am starting to buy into your geript stuff a bit. his fall-off from early game has been REAL...like holy crap he has fallen off.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:25 GMT
#822
On September 07 2014 02:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont care whatever else happens today.
LYNCH KOSHI FIRST.

SCUM DIES TODAY.


what's your opinion on rayn? since he is so confident in koshi that he is considering sheeping koshi?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:27 GMT
#824
On September 07 2014 02:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 02:15 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 07 2014 02:08 ritoky wrote:
so can anyone explain to me their town read on oats, cuz i am not very fond of the dude anymore, but no one else seems to be.

i mean the guy placed a late throwaway vote on himself for grail which doesn't help us get any info in the future at all, i looked at his filter and outside of his tunnel on koshi for a feeling he had early game he basically has 0 clearly stated reads, and he has just been walkin around accusing people.

I just reviewed arnie got a gun real quick. I called oats obv town n0/d1 and i was wrong, so i read that game. oats gives 0 reads in his first 2 pages of his filter. Like absolutely none. He's taking stances this game from what i remember and it seems he's trying to solve the game. Also, we read certain situations similarly, which makes me feel good about him

Yeah that game was fun.

I would vote for robik if i cant vote for myself.

But since it doesnt fucking matter, im going to persist with this egoistical behavior.

I think sloosh is scum and damdred is scummy among others man come on.


also wtf, do you think the bus is HUGE? cuz isn't sloosh just going ham on damdred nonstop? what makes you think they could be scum together?????
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 17:35 GMT
#831
okay, i read your case on rayn dam, and it's okay.

it seems primarily like a meta case, which i would prefer not to subscribe to unless i have to.

the thing i like about rayn is his want to lynch syl (who i also REALLY want to lynch) and his reason: syl openly scum read people he didn't have scum reads on in the SAME post. like what the hell is that?

i don't like rayn for his crap with geript, his want to lynch lurkers, and he has a lot of odd "definite" statements where he is like "everyone is dumb" "robik's reads are way off" "geript understands why i am doing what i am doing" and similar things. they just sound like they come from a perspective of more information.

so overall...yeah i would consider lynching him if syl isn't on the table.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 18:01 GMT
#840
really displeased with damdred ignoring me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 18:06 GMT
#843
On September 07 2014 02:53 geript wrote:
FWIW, other than meta reasons, one of the things that's really bothered me about Robik is that his reads are so ephemeral. In the last game I was in (which I was scum), I didn't really cared what I said and I just spewed a bunch of random bullshit and never really bothered to figure out how much of it was right. It was just do stuff to look active and towny and stuff that sounds good. That's exactly how Robik's been playing. No read lasts, everything changes and it often changes so fast and so often that it's really hard to nail down where he actually stands "this second." I don't get why Rayn, Yam, and Koshi are all reading him town.


but i had this problem with him earlier in the thread and simply asked him: "your reads aren't centralized so sometimes they are hard for me to find, could you list them?"

and then robik listed them. why don't you just ask? he has shown a propensity to list his reads if you can't find them, at least for me he has. but maybe that's cuz i bribed him with chocolate sweetness.

also as for him spewing crap incessantly. from what i have seen, robik spams regardless of alignment and borders on insulting regardless of alignment.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 18:08 GMT
#844
fakkkkkk only 20 minutes before i have to go. syl isn't a candidate for lynch for anyone else here? i would really prefer syl. if not, gotta look into these others.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 18:17 GMT
#849
On September 07 2014 03:12 HaruRH wrote:
stop hurting my ghostly heart, robik.


doesn't do anything in thread, name is mentioned, appears with joke comment; hard to not instant scum read
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 06 2014 18:33 GMT
#853
Well, unfortunately Town Jesus is out of time and has to go to work. I hope that you vote me for grail so that we can bring the Grace of God to bear on the witch scum. I am going to vote for my #1 scum read at the moment as I don't see a case strong enough to shake me off the read.

Sylencia

It starts out with him talking purely about setup and optimal play. When criticized by a couple people, he responds with how he doesn't have enough time or the ability where he is to view the thread or respond substantively in any manner. Then he responds substantively in defense of himself. He just immediately got defensive and whiny when accused; which is a mafia indicator for many players when they are caught early on.

Secondly, this post:

On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.


As rayn pointed out very clearly. The guy claims null reads on people then scum reads them later in the same post. It is a load of wishywashy bs where he SCUM reads his NULL reads. Like....I can't even begin to comprehend.

Thirdly, this sequence:

On September 07 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:46 Sylencia wrote:
Guys, let's not be lazy and select the person with less activity than the rest. It's pretty much set up to be an easy mislynch if he's town and there's just not enough to go off instead of others.

If I was to select someone for lynching it's geript. He's actually done very little to help town, beyond the first 12 hours of the game, he's been finding people safe over people who are scummy. Process of elimination probabyl works at a lower player count, but to try pull off 13 man PoE isn't something I'd see anyone trying to do.

Damdred is basically scum claiming.

"I'm going to do work to prove that i'm town"

goes off and posts in a different game instead of playing this one

"guys, i'm just keeping up with what's happening right now, which is hard cause it's like 1 post per half hour"

leaves again

"guys, i'm not gonna do work because i don't think 6 hours is enough time to do the work required to convince you that i'm town"

Fuck that shit.



On September 07 2014 00:50 Sylencia wrote:
Give it at least another day Robik, silent night at least means he can catch up (properly) and if he doesn't do anything tomorrow then I'd consider it. I just think there's bigger fish to fry.


Why give it a day on damdred? Why are you hard defending him now, you haven't hard defended him anywhere all thread. You don't even really give a reason as far as I have read into your filter. You just sound like someone who might be trying to buy some cred or keep a scum buddy alive. Also if there are bigger fish to fry, then WHY AREN'T YOU PUSHING FOR ANY OF THEM????????????????????????

I cannot comprehend his play as town, so he isn't.

##vote: sylencia
##deadlinevote: sylencia

a couple minutes late to leave for work now FAKKKKKKKKKKK

was wurf
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 03:46 GMT
#994
wasn't here, cuz football.

am a bit durnk, cuz football.

that game was boring, cuz football.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 03:53 GMT
#995
On September 08 2014 10:58 geript wrote:
Also for the record. Pretty sure Koshi was a miss.


what precisely leads you to this conclusion?

also what do you think of the judge going completely against the candidates that the majority of town wanted?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 03:58 GMT
#997
On September 08 2014 12:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 12:53 ritoky wrote:
On September 08 2014 10:58 geript wrote:
Also for the record. Pretty sure Koshi was a miss.


what precisely leads you to this conclusion?

also what do you think of the judge going completely against the candidates that the majority of town wanted?

I was trying to be crafty so that they would try to soup oats = judge


you medivigicopjudge?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 04:03 GMT
#999
On September 08 2014 13:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar you are supposed to tell who gobble saved.


rayn, i really need your help right here. tell me about geript and your read on him, cuz he is a giant question mark right now for me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 04:15 GMT
#1004
On September 08 2014 13:13 Damdred wrote:
I don't think rayn is scum anymore


why not?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 04:16 GMT
#1005
On September 08 2014 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I cant read geript. I wanted him to have the double vote so madia would maybw kill him and i could trust his reads. I will read thw thread again tomorrow. I realky habw no time bwfore that because reading on phone in pain in thw ass.



so you pushed for the grail on someone who you didn't think was town?????????????

how is that town?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 08 2014 05:43 GMT
#1034
EVERYONE needs to give an opinion on this since it was NOT something decided collectively. IF YOU DO NOT I WILL PUSH YOU WITH THE WRATH OF TOWN JESUS:

Koshi: hit or miss? why?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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