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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 07:36 GMT
#287
reads lol not reafs
screw phoneposting
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 07:43 GMT
#288
On September 04 2014 16:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I just saw this.
Show nested quote +
I feel like the best play may be just to let people do what they think is best, and then organize things as the game progresses.

So you want to have setup talk to develop information and reads.

But you dont actually want to have setup talk.
##unvote
##vote sloosh


I feel that is quoting sloosh out of context. the way i read it he is discussing the setup and comes to the conclusion that it is hard to actually execute any coordinated power role plan because any claim will get souped.

I think that is a fair point to make even though I do think the inquisitor+oracle visit should yield the most information for the two.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 07:52 GMT
#291
On September 04 2014 16:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 16:43 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 16:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
I just saw this.
I feel like the best play may be just to let people do what they think is best, and then organize things as the game progresses.

So you want to have setup talk to develop information and reads.

But you dont actually want to have setup talk.
##unvote
##vote sloosh


I feel that is quoting sloosh out of context. the way i read it he is discussing the setup and comes to the conclusion that it is hard to actually execute any coordinated power role plan because any claim will get souped.

I think that is a fair point to make even though I do think the inquisitor+oracle visit should yield the most information for the two.

So sloosh concludes that setup discussion is useless right?

But in the very next post, he wants people to discuss the setup.
There is no point discussing the setup if there is no advantage to be gained. And there isnt.
So many roles are standalone.


i think you are misunderstanding him. my view is he was referring to earlier setup-talk posts as towny in order to explain his current reads, not necessarily as in 'its useless but keep talking about it muhahaha'
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 12:17 GMT
#297
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.


I'm amazed that you are null reading the person who has posted nothing but 'i think koshi is scum' and 'still think hes scum'.
I think it's very weird that yamato would bother to come in, make an unsubstantiated post, and then disappear. Clearly he had the time to post, but his effort doesn't show it.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 13:00 GMT
#304
On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 13:02 GMT
#305
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky


This is a really bad post. Like baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
It literally is the scummiest list of random people I have ever seen.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 13:08 GMT
#307
On September 04 2014 22:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:00 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:39 Koshi wrote:
gobbledydook, what is your read on yamato?


He's scum. He had better have a good reason to explain his posting or I'm voting the shit out of him. As I said he has the time to come into the thread to say koshi is scum without any explanation, but doesn't actually bother to do anything constructive. One can only presume he's wasting our time.

Why does scum draw attention to himself like that?

That's a good point. I don't know. I don't know why town would do that either.
It's just anti-town.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 15:36 GMT
#355
Here's why I think koshi is scum.

1)
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky


this is a really bad post. It's a list of town people with no explanation whatsoever. It's not a list town would make.

2) he has done nothing while posting a whole page of filler. I don't see any insight he has offered that I would expect an experienced player like koshi would make as town. He went to sleep when the day had just started, but his posts haven't gained substance since he woke up.


A look through sloosh's filter and it's not impressive either. There's some meaningless setup talk, and then there are a series of open-ended questions without actually committing to anything. I don't even know what his reads are. I agree with oats here on sloosh scum.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 15:37 GMT
#356
On September 05 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

I'm the cop


didn't you do this sort of fakeclaim in noir mini that screwed the whole town over.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 15:42 GMT
#359
sloosh what are your top scumreads. why.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 15:43 GMT
#360
On September 05 2014 00:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 00:37 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 05 2014 00:29 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 15:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't talk about setup. You can only help scum.
Don't claim unless i tell you to.

Period.

I'm the cop


didn't you do this sort of fakeclaim in noir mini that screwed the whole town over.

Is that the game where idiots lynched BH and then lynched MysteryMeat, cause they can't read into what's going on in a game? If you think I'm to blame for that, you're out of your fucking mind.


We can discuss this another day. Let's move on.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 04 2014 15:54 GMT
#364
On September 05 2014 00:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 05 2014 00:38 IAmRobik wrote:
Can someone explain to me why gobble is speaking for people all game instead of just waiting for people to explain themselves? Is this towny? I have NOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING CLUE how to read this behavior.

???

hes saying his reads?

##unvote
##vote Koshi

No -- he's saying he thinks that person x is trying to say _____.
Yes, it's a read, but it's not a read. It's not "i think he's town because i think he's doing such-and-such to generate conversation". He's just saying "I think that this person thinks this because he's doing that"

Yes, this post is confusing. Just read Gooble's posts to understand what i'm trying to say


It seems you don't like how my reads are presented. You are entitled to your opinion. And I don't care.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 05 2014 00:07 GMT
#491
On September 05 2014 09:05 slOosh wrote:
You guys want to see a cool trick?

##Vote: Damdred


bro, I still don't have any idea who your scumreads are and why. And I've gone to slept and woken up the next day already.

and why vote damdred
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 05 2014 03:45 GMT
#510
I completely disagree with geript's meta scumread of me. He claims that I am 'commenting on the thread' instead of 'forcing my views on people' and I cannot agree at all. First of all regarding 'forcing my views' I don't have a scumread right now strong enough that I would hard push. It's not surprising given it's only halfway through day 1. I have expressed my reads clearly - I think koshi and sloosh are scum - just not so sure that I would hard tunnel them.

As for 'commenting on the thread', I must disagree as well. I understand what you mean but I completely disagree that I have been a pedestrian. I can only say that if you want to talk about 'staying off the radar' I would think koshi is the worst offender of the lot: He's said nothing at all about his intentions and reads! I don't think I fall into that category.

Because of this completely incorrect meta read, I must retract my grail vote from geript.



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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 05 2014 04:53 GMT
#537
On September 05 2014 13:12 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:45 gobbledydook wrote:
I completely disagree with geript's meta scumread of me. He claims that I am 'commenting on the thread' instead of 'forcing my views on people' and I cannot agree at all. First of all regarding 'forcing my views' I don't have a scumread right now strong enough that I would hard push. It's not surprising given it's only halfway through day 1. I have expressed my reads clearly - I think koshi and sloosh are scum - just not so sure that I would hard tunnel them.

As for 'commenting on the thread', I must disagree as well. I understand what you mean but I completely disagree that I have been a pedestrian. I can only say that if you want to talk about 'staying off the radar' I would think koshi is the worst offender of the lot: He's said nothing at all about his intentions and reads! I don't think I fall into that category.

Because of this completely incorrect meta read, I must retract my grail vote from geript.





Wait, but earlier on in the day you said you disagreed with his read on Haru, but you said he was a good player who won't misuse the power so he should have the grail. Is the fact you disagree on his meta read on you suddenly disregarding what you said in the first 6 hours of the game?

Are you calling him scummy or bad player by doing this?


I thought he was a good player. I thought wrong.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 05 2014 04:54 GMT
#539
On September 05 2014 13:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:02 gobbledydook wrote:
On September 04 2014 20:39 Koshi wrote:
I think I am ok with the following people. Just based on their posts.
•Oatsmaster only because ritoky
•gobbledydook
•IAmRobik
•geript
•slOosh
•ritoky


This is a really bad post. Like baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
It literally is the scummiest list of random people I have ever seen.


Here's where gobbly comments on Koshi's listpost.
Now why is this post (in his mind) any worse than this:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robert is town.
geript is town.
Koshi is likely town.
yamato town.
Oats is town (no Robert you are wrong).
Sloosh town.

Sylencia mafia.

ritoky town.


Bitches cannot read scum QT unless Palmar changed the original rules which would be dumb.

I'll retract from my Sloosh read.
On September 04 2014 14:24 slOosh wrote:
Some people find it really easy to ease into games while others build into it. Both as town and as scum. Furthermore it's a themed setup where everyone has a role, so maybe "playing like blue" is kicking in. My point is that shutting down things so early in a 72 hour Day 1 doesn't really help us since you don't know if you just shut down scum or town. All you know is you shut them down.

I'm actually inclined to think gobbleygook and sylencia more townish for their setup discussions.

Explain the bolded. They gave bad advice and/or didn't read the setup and certainly didn't help finding mafia.
Also explain how setup discussion is townish? If there was a way to break the setup this setup would not exist. You can't gain anything if you discuss the setup before D3.

I am not surprised geript's reads are the opposite of mine....

##DeadlineVote: Sylencia
##Vote for bearer of the Holy Grail: geript


The red part. At the time that was one of my only posts in the game. Koshi had posted way more than i had.
If gobbly thinks Koshi's listpost was bad my post here should be bad aswell. He never comments on anything on that post.

I do not see a logical thought process from him regarding these two posts.


I did not recall seeing this post, but it's really bad too. Be ashamed of yourself. You're certainly not in my town books.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 05 2014 13:00 GMT
#556
koshi, I didn't stop caring. I just was doing something else.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 05 2014 13:06 GMT
#557
On September 05 2014 21:10 HaruRH wrote:
I thought the notebook idea sucked so i decided not to use it.
Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.
Koshi, stop lying about wanting to post lesser. You know it won't happen and it only makes people suspicious of you. Where is the 'i am the town lord' koshi? Or are you scum?
Sylencia... wtf? Souping me? Are you trying to figure out my role or have you?
Oats... i feel the singaporean from you. We both are confusing for stupid americans.
Yamato -afk lord
Geript is missing. Where is he?

I'm not interested in talk about the rest yet.
Meanwhile, i am ghostly because i am busy. But i will have sudden spikes in activity when I'm free. Start asking me questions.


1. I can't tell if robik is town or not.
2. koshi is scum that's why
3. can you quote the sylencia post in question
4. wtf
5. ya he needs to post. It's not like he hasn't checked into the thread. he just doesn't post.
6. idk.
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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 05 2014 13:09 GMT
#558
On September 05 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:
LM/HaruRH/gobble


for endgame cred.


Okay, why lonemeow/haru

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gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2603 Posts
September 06 2014 02:18 GMT
#697
Misrepresenting me again. I don't have to post a list of all lurkers every time I describe lurkers, I don't have to post a list of all bad posters every time I describe bad posters. I don't know why anyone would consider it scummy that I discuss scummy behaviour of one person while not saying the same about another similar person. BECAUSE I'M NOT DISCUSSING THE OTHER PERSON RIGHT NOW? It's almost a ploy to deflect attention, 'well, yeah, true, but look at the other guy he's just like that'. Doesn't mean what you posted is any good.
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