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IAmRobik

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September 08 2014 17:55 GMT

#1109

Geript, what do you think of my analysis of haru's post?

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 18:04 GMT

#1112

On September 09 2014 03:03 geript wrote:
Meh. I don't find that very convincing. It's moreso that he has no desire to help town whatsoever. His inconsistencies on who and what type of person should get the grail are pretty fucking weird too. Plus, he pretty much auto-assumed that Rayn/Koshi are town super early in D1.

Why are you so desperately avoiding saying, "man, you're right. That's actualyl a good point" Stop being such a weeeweee

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 18:10 GMT

#1116

On September 09 2014 03:07 geript wrote:

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Because it's not a good point. He changes verb tense idk like 4 times in the quote you cover. That's not actually mafia indicative unless you have a grammar nazi doing it. I don't see how incorrect verb tense makes anyone mafia at any point.

Let me know when you read my post.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 18:17 GMT

#1119

On September 09 2014 03:13 geript wrote:

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On September 09 2014 02:01 IAmRobik wrote:

On September 08 2014 20:04 HaruRH wrote:

On September 04 2014 16:04 geript wrote:

On September 04 2014 15:55 ritoky wrote:

On September 04 2014 15:53 geript wrote:
I don't really have any solid townreads yet. It's really sad. Plus there's too many people on my too lynch list. Gun to my head Koshi; he's not as happy and fun as I usually think of him. But there's an odd towny air to him.

who, other than non-posters, is on your "too lynch list"?

Oats is like really not town oTsy to me. Ps I am the oats whisperer (sssshhhh don't tell Austin)
Gobbly I'm pretty solid on. He's really thread policy which he tends to be in his scum games. Plus he's not really paranoid and aggressive and analyzing things which is what I saw in his town games. But he's pretty new so I'm a little hesitant there.
Yamato for funsies. But seriously if he doesn't try to add something useful.
HaruRH I get a really weird vibe from. I haven't played with him much but I got the feels from him early on.
Robik. He's done a lot of things I've seen from his mafia play. He hasn't hard called me town yet. He's been schmoozing and generally unproductive (in an unproductive way instead of in a town Robik way).

Slowish I'm guessing is town. Sylencia might be too based on attitude. That's essentially where I'm at.

On September 05 2014 11:53 geript wrote:
Town Princess Newbie
TownWorld Heavyweight
Mafia Noir
Mafia Detention

If you look in his town games, he actually comes out with his own opinions. He forces stuff that he thinks because he finds it important. He even comes up with some good reads (e.g. his HaruRH read in Noir). I'm not really seeing that at all this game from him.

If you look in his scum games, he mostly comments on the thread rather than forcing is own thoughts and things onto people. By this I mean, he talks about things that are going on in the thread, being said, being talked about etc. He rarely forces his viewpoint and doesn't really "stick himself out there."

That's the major difference that I see. The problem is that first meta is easy to use incorrectly and second that newer players change much faster which makes meta arguments much worse. In this game, I see far, far more of the latter. He's not really pushing his opinion on anything or anyone in a strong way. That's specifically why I think he's mafia. My hesitation is that I don't have a great record using meta and he's new which makes him harder to read.

Basically the 2 things I highlighted shows how he progressively hard scumreads gobble at early d1 and then relieve some pressure off him by stating how he was newbie and shit. Horribly twisting 'meta' reads to his advantage.

This goes against haru's whole argument for why geript is scum
Twisting meta to call a town town, is not using meta to geript's advantage if geript is scum.

This post you mean? I read it, idk 4-5 minutes after you posted it. Not sure why that would ever matter.

Wait waht? Are you for real? You don't find his inconsistency to be scummy? He's basically saying that you're trying to use a meta read to condemn people, and then says that you used a meta read to town read someone who you were originally pressuring. Why would he read you as scum off of that? He's just trying to be consistent on the whole "meta" front regarding you, but then his argument falls to shit but he sticks with it lol.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 18:20 GMT

#1120

If haru is scum, geript is basically never scum --> not that this tells us much without flips.
I still have yamato as town solely for how he treated the situation with sylencia. Plus I guess our talk about the other game we played on the other forum is fairly townie as well
Damdred starting to look shitty to me once again.
Rayn might be town, but he's really putting the most insignificunt effort of all time.
Ritoky is almost certainly town.

Hey Ritoky, do you think that Koshi was a hit or a miss? You forgot to answer your own question. based off of how many people say he's a hit over a miss, I might actually believe that he's a miss

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 18:54 GMT

#1123

##deadlinevote: damdred

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 19:07 GMT

#1131

On September 09 2014 03:55 Damdred wrote:
Yamato what do you think of Ger right now?

And cool rob, i get yelled at for bein absent and voted for. I actually am present an dinteracting I get voted for

Cept you're not present and interacting. Again, you're spending infinitely more time in the other game than this one.

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IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 19:11 GMT

#1133

On September 09 2014 03:58 yamato77 wrote:
Geript seems rather invested in the game. I can't say the same for Rob even though he's spammed up the thread.

What can I possibly do to show you how invested I am in this game?

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 19:39 GMT

#1136

On September 09 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:

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What can I possibly do to show you how invested I am in this game?

Also, Yam. I am playing a super fucking try-hard scum game. I literally would not have it in me to try to get the grail here as scum, while simultaneously trying to carry my scum team in that game. If I were scum here, I would be sitting back a little bit more, considering all the analysis I have to do in that game to appear townie. I can unequivocally say that I would not have sought out the grail if I were scum this game. Not a chance. Also, my flip-flopping is not scum indicative. It shows a townie mentality of someone who is reading the game and reevaluating. There are certain scum teams that are forming...people who are with geript/rayn/other type of thing and people who are with haru/damdred/other. Obviously that's not an exact science of who's on the scum teams, but it's kinda the groups that are forming (right?). I've pressured both sides. I've been changing my mind on both sides. I've pressured and voted both sides. I would have to be playing the game of a fucking lifetime if I were scum here.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 19:49 GMT

#1139

On September 09 2014 04:47 Damdred wrote:

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If you actually give a real meta read on me instead of lying and say i'm never wishy washy or act this way. Sure, but i'll call something shit when it is shit ty

how about you do this CRAZY thing and give reads and explain them. You skated by yesterday on no activity. You better fucking step up your game and quit being a little whiney bitch

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 19:59 GMT

#1141

yea...whatever. i'm pretty happy with my vote if this is the fucking effort that you're planning on putting in. I've given my thoughts. I've tried to extract thoguhts from others. I've reviewed things, even from people who I think are scum, and I've come to conclusions that I wouldn't have previously arrived at. If you're not scum this game, I'll be fucking flabbergasted. You're playing the scummiest scummer game of all scummer games and you deserve to be strung up on a fucking tree

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 20:08 GMT

#1145

On September 09 2014 05:05 slOosh wrote:
Robik, I don't think the part you highlighted shows HaruRH scum. He isn't saying that geript calls gobbley town using meta, he is saying he is easing off pressure - essentially going back to a null read on gobbley using meta.

yea...i figured that out once geript explained it to me. Whatever. I want damdred dead.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 20:25 GMT

#1149

What if Koshi was the judge and just got tired of the game and decided to kill himself? That would be so epic

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 08 2014 21:09 GMT

#1151

Both this game and the other game basically died. I don't know what the fuck happened, but I guess I'm the common denominator.

I really like this format -- it was a lot of fun to play on VS, but few people in this game are actually trying for whatever reason.

Yamato, how are we feeling about damdred's contributions today. You were pretty staunch on not killing him yesterday.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 09 2014 03:25 GMT

#1169

yamato -- please answer my question on damdred

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 09 2014 13:57 GMT

#1267

I'm back but I'm not caught up.

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 09 2014 14:04 GMT

#1268

So slyencia is town. Cool. Guess I'm not all that off

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 09 2014 14:05 GMT

#1269

BTW -- if there's someone else who is the role that knows who the inquisitor is, you should probably claim

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 09 2014 15:21 GMT

#1271

On September 10 2014 00:17 HaruRH wrote:

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Why would you cc acolyte? It is already dubious to claim it - not to mention counterclaim it.

Cause then we have a guaranteed scum between 2 people....

IAmRobik

United States5878 Posts

September 09 2014 16:26 GMT

#1296

geript brings up a non-terrible point. There's no way that he saw the word acolyte in his role pm and didn't see the name of the inquisitor. Both were probably bolded. It would be impossible to miss. The only thing that makes me question this is that we know the acolyte isn't dead, unless it's koshi -- and they wouldn't know that the acolyte is dead because the only person that was killed was the martyr.

IF THERE IS ANOTHER ACOLYTE OUT THERE -- IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO COUNTERCLAIM.

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