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On August 31 2014 03:47 batsnacks wrote: I am excited to play with Damdred and kush again. Like... Together, as scum? | ||
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On August 31 2014 04:09 The_Templar wrote: No, because I will be scum as I always am. Awesome! It makes things easier. | ||
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Reason: you like hanged lovers | ||
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And he won't read 97 pages of thread. Can you help me sunmarizing the game while I skim? | ||
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On September 12 2014 10:18 kushm4sta wrote: lol how many mislynches do we have? Why are you asking this? | ||
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On September 12 2014 10:32 kushm4sta wrote: you dont think it's an important question? Nope, I think it's a weird question. If you're town, you have to lynch mafia, it doesn't matter if it's day one, LYLO or MYLO. Also, nobody knows if we can have a mislynch as we don't know how many mafia are left. All we have are speculations regarding this matter. Only mafia would be worried about how many mislynches are left. Town needs to lynch mafia under any circumstances. | ||
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On September 12 2014 06:13 Vivax wrote: 1 is kush. If there's another we'll figure it out. ##Vote kushm4sta Explain it please? | ||
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On September 12 2014 08:18 ritoky wrote: i plan to give them, but i would prefer that everyone give their potential teams of 2 mafia and why first. Why does it matter and how that would help? It will only bring WIFOM association. If you're town you should be looking for people acting scum, not for unflipped associations. | ||
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On September 12 2014 08:37 kushm4sta wrote: 3d/oats/ritoky one of those? Why not Vivax? | ||
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On September 12 2014 11:09 kushm4sta wrote: @gb you are being active and i like it. Scum is probably oats would be my best guess. Not vivax cause he has tried really hard I guess? it's possible though. The reason why I want to know how many mislynches we have is I want to know how hard I have to try. Like if we have 4 mislynches, we can just lynch down a list and win with a very high certainty. I don't like your idea. I understand it, but I don't like it. You're being too careless here. Making a list and not caring much for mislynches is irresponsible. It makes game easier to mafia, there will be less effort from town and we will have more chances of mislynching townies. I think you might be mafia for considering it. Being careless, specially now at late game, is pretty much a mafia mindset. | ||
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On September 12 2014 12:16 kushm4sta wrote: 13 players 10 town, 3 scum is as standard as it gets. If the numbers were different, there would have to be some seriously fucked up prs. I'm not seeing that this game from the people who have already flipped. This would be true if there wasn't for missions. I went through time cycle posts to know the flips and we've lost two blue roles and one mafia died for failing his mission. I think that having those two blue roles on the game and mafia dying for failing mission is very hard for mafia. So having 4 mafia in this set up is very possible. | ||
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On September 12 2014 19:58 Vivax wrote: Are you SERIOUS? Been a while since I read such a thing. And I asked you for an example from my filter cause I would point you to where I wrote about the reasons, right now you're just making blanket statements. Yes I'm completely serious. Why do you think this is absurd? @ oats LOL so that's your strongest scumread? I love your logic. "Hey this guy just replaced 3d12 and has done nothing but pushing on kush lol you mafia". Seems legit. I'm working now, will be more active 6 hours from now | ||
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On September 13 2014 01:39 Oatsmaster wrote: seems legit that you would rather ridicule me than play the game. I'm playing the game since I came to the thread. I'm not ridiculing you, I am ridiculing your argument, which is bad. You've being playing the whole game and your best case is based on a player who has been playing for less than 20 hours and the argument is that I haven't given reads since I started (which is an insane requirement, I can't possibly read 100 pages of thread that fast). You just jumped on me after Vivax said my argument was bad. You didn't even tried to sum up my opening with the reads you had on 3d12 before. You might also be scum. Vivax, can you tell me why are you voting for kush? | ||
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On September 13 2014 04:00 kushm4sta wrote: i call em like i see em. I should pretend to still think you are the best bet for lynching scum? Yes, 3d's play was pretty fucking weird. I originally townread him he was doing the conspiracy theory thing, but I probably shouldn't have townread him for that. Cause 1 it didn't even make sense.. 2 he kept doing it, probably because people were townreading him for it. So, you've been town reading 3d12 all the game and decided that this is a scum slot after your top scumread said so? Really? | ||
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On September 13 2014 02:39 Oatsmaster wrote: I can't read 3d. Totally weird playstyle. I don't give a shit that you can't read 100 pages. That's excuses. You can do other things. My best case is on scum. I'm not obligated to make the longest case ever. Just gotta find scum. I never saw Vivax's argument man. Just read you filter and saw things I don't like. And what are you going on about I might be scum man. I can't fucking play this game and be scum. You're making your best case on a player that just started playing, calling him scum for giving the excuse that he couldn't complete the inhumane task of reading 100 pages of thread and give a solid read on everyone. More than that, you said you couldn't read 3d12 so you're committing the same "sin" your top scumread is doing. You say that I should be reading the thread, yet you say that you haven't read Vivax post. Who's not reading the thread? | ||
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.:[b]Considering Day4[b] 1) Forced reads [spoiler] On September 12 2014 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote: [/spoiler]IM ALIVE!! Vivax rikoty glowing bear kush one scum here. 1-4 I dont think kush is scum and ive changed my mind about bunnies. So left with Vivax and Glowing bear ##vote glowing bear He keeps getting on kush's case for caring about the number of mislynches. and this post If we lynch down a list, it doesnt make the game easier for mafia. And it doesnt increase the chance of mislynching townies from a totally neutral point of view. Like hes been here a while and he hasnt done anything about the rest of the thread in terms of reads and stuff, just jumps on the first 'bad' looking posts and goes at it. It's detrimental to town to just make a list and lynch in order. This list could be affected by a good scum player and people would be ok with mislynches instead of searching for their top scum reads. That's why it makes the game easier to mafia than to town. He accuses me of being here for a while and doing nothing in terms of reads, which is a poor argument considering I just replaced 3d12. Also, that "I'M ALIVE" seems really fabricated, considering his low contribution to the thread, which I'll cover while talking about Day2 2) Not caring for the lynch [spoiler] On September 13 2014 02:39 Oatsmaster wrote: I can't read 3d. Totally weird playstyle. I don't give a shit that you can't read 100 pages. That's excuses. You can do other things. My best case is on scum. I'm not obligated to make the longest case ever. Just gotta find scum. I never saw Vivax's argument man. Just read you filter and saw things I don't like. And what are you going on about I might be scum man. I can't fucking play this game and be scum. [/spoiler] He says he can't read 3d and does not hesitate to vote me, even when he has got more reads on people who has being playing with him He says that not completing the task of reading 100 pages is just excuses and that I should do other things (like trying to figure out who is acting through a mafia mindset, maybe?) He is just not caring for the lynch, as I am an easy target now. He is completely comfortable with lyching anyone because no one is pointing him out and he will survive until LYLO. This is a comfortable mafia picking on an easy target. .:Considering day2 3) Lurking After reading day2, you'll see that Oatsmaster is always lurking and just comes to the thread to drop one liners and to vote. He is comfortable in that position because is never the target. He doesn't have to get involved because he made considerable posts on day one and people are not caring for him. He doesn't need to defend himself. He also doesn't need to contribute, but just waits town to kill themselves. Examples of what I said: [spoiler] On September 05 2014 10:54 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote kush Damdred you are cooking slowly but kush requires a bigger fire On September 06 2014 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote ##vote kush On September 07 2014 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Im not coming back. night dudes. On September 08 2014 13:59 Oatsmaster wrote: ##vote Damdred [/spoiler] We reached day4 with 100 pages of thread, and he has got 4 pages filter. Ritoky, the replacer, has 2 pages filter. Oats is mafia. ##Vote: Oatsmaster | ||
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More than that, this second to last vote count on day2 On September 07 2014 04:20 HaruRH wrote: Vote Count – Day 2 Vivax (0): 3d12 (1): kushm4sta (4): Damdred (1): batsnacks (4): ObiWanShinobi (0): mderg (0): kitaman27 (0): 27ninjabunnies (0): Not voting (1): mderg Currently, kushm4sta is set to be lynched with 4 votes. Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you! Day 2 will end in (19:30 GMT (+00:00)). Makes me believe that mafia was ok with both lynches, therefore, making kush town. This also points out to oats being mafia with easy wagoning kush. | ||
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On September 14 2014 01:11 kushm4sta wrote: Try hard will not save you. I'm not trying to be saved, I'm trying to push my strongest scumread. I just finished reading day2 that mad end believe oats is mafia, and that's why I'm pushing him. | ||
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On September 14 2014 01:14 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not trying to be saved, I'm trying to push my strongest scumread. I just finished reading day2 that mad end believe oats is mafia, and that's why I'm pushing him. EBWOP: made me believe* | ||
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I'm not taking my vote off of him. | ||
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On September 14 2014 01:49 Vivax wrote: Plus 27nb's play was awful, when she played she almost only talked about her rl stuff, and she scumread me, and the last 2 NKs both scumread her. Lynch kush + ritoky, ggnore. You're focusing on kush's meta more than really looking the legitimacy of his stream of thoughts. He does look townie and that vote count makes him look more townie, as I said. You're tunnelling, Vivax. | ||
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On September 14 2014 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote: oh man that case so bad. Literally the best argument is the activity one and Ive easily had 9-10 pages as scum before. So in essence, glowing bear pulling out all the stops and making up a scenario where my actions fit a typical scum mentality but not looking into why exactly im posting what im post. Point 2 is a complete fabrication. This right here. He has 0 proof that I want to lynch anyone other than him. He doesnt care about the rest of my play even though its only 4 pages long and questioning the mentality behind the bunnies switch which IMO is the biggest flag for someone looking closely. I've pointed out the reasons that makes you look scum before my eyes. It doesn't matter what YOU believe that makes you scum. Your attempt to discredit my read is off | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote: that vote count is completely useless. There are 3 other people on kush besides me. Why arent all 3 of them scum if being on kush at that point makes me scum? It is informative because it shows that mafia is ok with the lynches. Therefore, they must be town. You lynching kush is a complementary argument to the case I've brought. | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:08 Oatsmaster wrote: wat. Why are you engaging me if you clearly do not value my opinion? what. This blows my mind. Your response to my defence is "thats your opinion, invalid." When in fact, im saying stuff which is not my opinion. what. This was you trying to discredit my read. This was me showing your attempt is off. | ||
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We cannot afford a mislynch! This could be LYLO if there are two mafia and if there's only one, we will reach LYLO day5! We have to kill mafia today!!! | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:20 Vivax wrote: GB why didn't Damdred vote kush? Because he was mafia and he was comfortable putting his vote somewhere else!!!! | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:21 Vivax wrote: Your vote analysis is based on the fact that in your opinion scum piled onto kush, but one flipped scum didn't, so how exactly can you claim to be right. Damdred wasn't willing to vote kush, he was willing to vote bats, both were willing to vote bats, but kush previously scumread Damdred and didn't vote him but batsnacks instead. It's kush. I had the same vote analysis on last game I've played and lynched Robik, who was scum. I don't remember the name of the game. Hapahauli was serial killer. I think this vote analysis could be wrong but the probability of it being right is higher. | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:27 Vivax wrote: Your vote analysis is trash compared to kush scumreading Dam and voting bats instead. He voted for self preservation and he tried to vote for damdred after he saw kita (was it kita?) voted for damdred. Do you really think his .30 vote was a stunt to not get his vote counted? He could've just voted for batsnacks and try to do nothing as mafia. Why bother putting that stunt??? | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:28 Vivax wrote: Kush is perfectly capable of pushing his reads but he didn't push his Damdred read at EoD. He sat back, watched the game unfold and voted bats when he was about to get lynched. He was town and could afford getting batsnacks because: (I) he was town and he doesn't know if batsnacks could be town or not and (ii) everybody was suspecting batsnacks was mafia, so it was a fair vote at that moment | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:32 Vivax wrote: HE VOTED BATS AFTER EVERYONE STARTED SWITCHING TO DAMDRED CAUSE OF HIS SCUMMY COMEBACK. EITHER HE DIDNT SEE IT OR HE DIDNT SEE IT AS SCUMMY AS OPPOSED TO THE REST OF TOWN, THATS CAUSE HES SCUM. Vivax, he immediately tried to change his vote to damdred. So, he probably didn't see it. I think mafia would've bussed to not raise suspicions or he would never ever have voted for damdred on the first hand. I can't see mafia being that careless. | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:34 Oatsmaster wrote: Well your scumread just said what you said but earlier. why does your scumread think the same way as you? You said it was a stunt. I'm saying it isn't. | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:39 Vivax wrote: You're putting faith into a vote that didn't count, and say he "tried to change vote". No, he only put a worm into your head. Congratz Goddamit... Look through a mafia mindset: 1) If his partner is being scumread, why would he put effort into creating more suspicions on him and not bussing at the end? 2) After the damage was done, why trying to pull it off and raise more suspicions on him? Moreover, why trying to fake a vote that wouldn't count anyway? This is too careless to be mafia. This is a confused townie playing | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:47 Vivax wrote: Mafia mindset: "Why should I vote for the guy I claimed to have scumread, who is my scumbuddy, when there's a majority on a townie anyway?" "Oh shit a lot of people moved to Damdred, I should too" And afterwards he townreads him. Bolded: who are you talking about? That "I should move too" is not a mafia mindset, come on. He could've defended damdred and pushed other guy. | ||
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I'm not voting kush, Vivax. I don't see him as mafia. I'm pretty sure oats is mafia. Why do you read oats as town? | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:54 kushm4sta wrote: just some shit he did that made me think he was town. but i shoudln't have been townreading him for that i realize. objectively he is the scummiest. i mean. least content. least activity. Man... Read my case on oats. He's being playing the scummiest here. Also, you have to add your reads on bunnies | ||
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On September 14 2014 02:57 kushm4sta wrote: although, gb, i did not and do not have time to give it due consideration. So i could very possibly be overlooking it. You have an hour. Come on, you just have to read a single post. | ||
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On September 14 2014 03:03 Vivax wrote: If there are two mafia and GB isn't one of them we lost the game cause Oats left. So I can either vote GB, or I can vote Oats. How do you like that GB. You'll have to decide by yourself. I know I'm town and I've been pushing on my strongest scumread since I got to the thread. I'm pretty sure oats is mafia, his play fits mafia mindset perfectly, specially after I read day2. You can see that he does not care for the lynch. He just got off because the only one who is pushing him is the guy getting lynched. He is still comfortable with the mislynches. I'm not taking how many mafias are left, because I think we cannot afford any mislynches anyway. We have to find mafia and lynch mafia. I found oats, I'm lynching oats. | ||
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On September 14 2014 03:13 Oatsmaster wrote: I just got off cause it's 2am and I have to be awake in 6 hours. Fucking calling me scum off that?? You havent been pushing your strongest scumread. Your strongest scumread was kush when you entered the thread. Now you are straight up lying. Kush flailing really hard. He has to know that ritoky is not dying unless he comes up with a slamdunk case. Why does he do this as either alignment man. I am not supposed to know which timezone you're at and when do you have to get up. All I'm supposed to know is that you left the thread with just one hour before deadline. I said kush might be scum. I said you might be scum also. I read day2 and kush looked townie for me for the thinks I've brought. I've read day2 and you looked scum because of the things I've brought. Again you're trying to discredit me with arguments that are off. | ||
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On September 14 2014 03:16 Vivax wrote: Oats pointed out how Damdred overjustified his vote D1, and this is what Poofter wrote about it: I don't think it was necessary for him to bus so early. Bussing early is completely safe for mafia. The probability of vote changing later is pretty high. He could do this just to look legit. Poof saying that means nothing. He could be trying to gain credit or to give credit to a scumbuddy. | ||
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On September 14 2014 03:35 kushm4sta wrote: @gb why not? oats looks townier to me recently. HOW??? JUST GODAMMN HOW??? His vote on me was utter shit and that made you believe he looks townier? LOOK AT NB FILTER AND TELL ME IF YOU THINK SHE'S MAFIA | ||
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On September 04 2014 07:42 Tehpoofter wrote: I am going to be busy for a bit at work. I think it would be beneficial if we can get some reads out before the end of the night. Oats are you going to be around I haven't really gotten to interact with you but I want to see where your head is it. This is secondary argument, as my main is on my case, but look at how poof is lenient with oats. This post is just an example. It feels extremely fabricated, the way he phrases it, trying to distance, saying that he wants to learn more from oats without really pushing him. He is always keeping oats at bay or giving him town credits. This sounds like a scumbuddy trying to cover his partner. | ||
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On September 14 2014 04:07 ritoky wrote: like idk why damdred would pander to his partner that hard. This is not solely indicative. Damdred could be doing that to his mafia partner. That justifies them bussing Damdred and looking good after he flips scum. | ||
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HE HAS GOT ALL THE PASSIVE MAFIS TRAITS!!!! JESUS!! | ||
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On September 14 2014 04:21 Vivax wrote: GB would you vote ritoky? Nope. I don't see anyone being scummier than oats. He is my top scum read with all the nafis traits, and I'm not changing my vote. He is mafia. | ||
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On September 14 2014 04:25 Vivax wrote: I seriously hope you're town, I seriously hope Oats is scum, cause if he isn't and you're town I'm going to be very mad at you for replacing into a game and pretending to know it all. I read a big part of the game now and the interactions we had with oats all pointed out to him. I'm not pretending to know it all, I'm trusting my top scumread, which is strong. | ||
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On September 14 2014 04:50 Vivax wrote: Gave you plenty of chances to reconsider your read on Oats based on the shit he did with Damdred. Gave you plenty of chances to reconsider your kush townread. You didn't take one of them. That's the only reason you gave on oats. The rest of his play pointed him out to be mafia. That vote count and the genuine confusion kush was into made me read him as town. It is a town trait. Maybe I've tunnelled oats too hard... | ||
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On September 14 2014 04:57 Vivax wrote: There were 2 points: 1. He effectively voted damdred EoD 2, 2. he asked people to take a look at him based on his D1 shit. You're either very bad or you're mafia. Those points aren't alignment indicative and you know that. Poof did the same and he was mafia. Saying I'm bad isn't going to help. Saying I'm mafia without reasons isn't going to help either. You know I'm town. You could've swapped your vote to kush with ritoky and gained majority, yet you decided to keep your vote on oats and blame me. | ||
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On September 14 2014 05:01 Vivax wrote: You might really be mafia after all, now you look at little things to throw suspicion onto me. I'm trying to figure out what happened. When kush moved his vote to ritoky oats had only my vote. It was your chance to hit kush. And you didn't. | ||
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On September 14 2014 05:06 Vivax wrote: I COULDNT HIT KUSH CAUSE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 2 V 2 AND YOU AND KUSH VOTED FIRST I'm saying when ritoky got back to the thread and kush switched his vote to ritoky. Oats only had 1 vote at that moment. Check the last voter on oats. It's not you, it's kush. | ||
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On September 14 2014 05:13 Vivax wrote: I'm not the type to switch votes around shortly before EoD except when it's a clear clear thing, I had decided to vote Oats cause I wanted at least 3 people on one guy. Now go away, you have an entire game to prove I'm scum and focusing on this little thing doesn't prove a thing. No, it doesn't. It's a complementary argument that needed to be pointed out. I'll read the thread and come back when I have more reads. | ||
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Kush, I was town reading you. Why would I kill ritoky to frame you??? It doesn't make sense | ||
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I don't like the way you jumped on me, kush. Sounded like you planned the opportunity to frame me. Your stream of reasoning sounded completely fabricated. But I also find suspicious that the top town, town read the entire game, is still alive... argh... I'm going to filter dive you when I get the time. | ||
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If I was mafia it would be a lot easier to have ritoky here, not Vivax, who has been town read the entire game. Night kill also doesn't make sense for you because Vivax is hard scumreading you since day3. ##Vote: Vivax Why is the top town is still alive at LYLO? Because he is mafia!! | ||
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On September 15 2014 21:40 kushm4sta wrote: ok gb why would vivax kill ritoky instead of you, when i scumread ritoky? He probably thought it was too obvious | ||
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What you've brought from 3d regarding poof also could be regarding oats. Poof was mafia, oats town. All you're bringing is WIFOM. You could've give reads earlier. Could've discussed with us in the last 24 hours. Yet you remained silent and is trying now, close to deadline, to convince kush I'm mafia with not enough time to properly evaluate. You've done a good job looking town throughout the game, but it's clear you're scum now. There is no fucking sense for you being still alive as town. | ||
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On September 17 2014 11:54 3d12 wrote: Thank you very much, GlowingBear, for covering for me. I didn't tell the rest of you, just the hosts, but I had some RL shit happen and I need to move in the next month. So between copious amounts of overtime and looking for a new apartment, I had no time to maintain the illusion of investigation. I'm glad GB was able to step in and make it work. I'm really glad to have played with you guys, though. Sorry I really fumbled this one, I think that's what threw everyone's reads off in the early game (so, mission accomplished?) was when I was all over the place and being generally very terrible at this game. I hope to play again in the near future though, once I have a new place and some free time. Also, batsnacks: do you still have your "kita notepad case"? I was interested in seeing it, but more interested in mislynching you at the time.  Never feel sorry and downgrade your play. I playing my 8th game and I'm still being called bad. I probably am. Oats is saying my arguments are bad. Funny thing: I never lost a game. Must be people carrying me. It's just ridiculous how people have to downgrade people's play. It's boring. I'm considering quitting mafia after the next game because bad manner is boring me. | ||
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On September 17 2014 12:03 The_Templar wrote: I'm 0-4 and probably not going to play much again because I suck  I want to host games though, looking forwards to that. You don't suck. I remember playing with you and you almost won he newbie game. But it was against me XD This one you were killed night 1. I don't know mafia mission but if you're town and you say night one, it's that because you made a very good job and can blame good scum play or bad town play for losing. | ||
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