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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 03:17 GMT
#927
On September 05 2014 12:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:09 Damdred wrote:
At the first post it was shortly after his last post in the thread, so I was expecting him to come back and fight.

But as the day was coming to an end, he hadn't done anything at all past that time. So it was his own lack of trying that gave me confidence.


You said you found his posts scummy and that lurking wasn't inherently scummy.
Lurking you now call lack of trying.

No way, man. This smells like an excuse.

##Unvote
##Vote Damdred


I wanted to pressure 3d12 but that might need to wait. I think damdred/kush wagons might be best for today.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 03:26 GMT
#929
On September 05 2014 12:23 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:13 Damdred wrote:
On September 05 2014 12:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
On September 05 2014 11:57 Damdred wrote:
Your correct Viv that at the point in the first post I did not want to vote on mix. You are also leaving out the context of the first post where poof demanded to know why I was not sleeping his case on mic.

However a good bit of time passed and I thought he was the best option especially since a lot of people went afk with votes on him.

So yea context helps that

Can you explain how people going afk with votes on. Micchan mean that he is the best option? By best option I mean most likely to flip scum


phone posting and wasn't able to break the thought up correctly.

I did think he was the best option at the time in the thread.

However a last minute shift also seemed impossible from reading the thread

That doesnt mean you have to vote for someone everyone else thinks is scum.
Literally you can vote ANYONE ELSE. Why was Micchan the best option and why afk people means you MUST FOR FOR HIM.


This is a good point coming back and seeing lots of afks on a lynch is hardly ever an indicator that its a good lynch to go on unless scum is a bunch of afkers or doing the mega bus.

Answer please!
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 03:53 GMT
#942
On September 05 2014 12:49 kitaman27 wrote:
What do you think about the above Vivax?


Rude not asking me too,

I agree on it too. I want like 4 votes today. I'd vote kush/damdred/bunnies and 3d12

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 03:54 GMT
#943
Going home but before I do. I think kush/damdred are the best wagons for today.

##unvote
##Vote Kushm4sta


Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 09:11 GMT
#964
On September 05 2014 14:19 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks
kitaman27
Tehpoofter
mderg
Damdred

-revised list of possible scummers


This list is garbage. I think its 4 town and 1 mafia.

Put yourself on the list with damdred and 3d12 and bunniies and thats the scumlist.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 09:12 GMT
#965
Going to bed but wanted to see what happened was sadly not much :/

3d12 chime in more please. Those voting batsnacks should switch to damdred or kush. These two need to be wagoned.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 17:33 GMT
#1037
On September 05 2014 22:05 Vivax wrote:
Would also lynch kush cause he has damdred among the possible scummers but didn't give a shit about the stuff I wrote on him so far.

Very authentic scumread.


Yeah I think we're both voting scum (just different ones atm)

I think we should run them both up.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 17:34 GMT
#1039
On September 05 2014 19:57 kushm4sta wrote:
So poorer u disagree about batsnacks why ? Weird how I'm your top scum read due to inactivity, I do stuff, and then you don't even feel the need to comment on it.


Its not about the activity its about how much I think you care about the game and you frankly don't seem to care. I thought at first you cared but now I'm just not seeing it like I have before.

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 17:41 GMT
#1041
On September 05 2014 23:25 kushm4sta wrote:
Read through dsmdred filter on and I'm finding it pretty townie with lots of content


So why was he on your scum list 1 page before this was posted?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 17:44 GMT
#1043
On September 06 2014 02:40 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:34 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 05 2014 19:57 kushm4sta wrote:
So poorer u disagree about batsnacks why ? Weird how I'm your top scum read due to inactivity, I do stuff, and then you don't even feel the need to comment on it.


Its not about the activity its about how much I think you care about the game and you frankly don't seem to care. I thought at first you cared but now I'm just not seeing it like I have before.



that's a sketchy as fuck thing to base a read on. you aren't me. You don't truly know my current level of caring AND you don't know how business could affect my level of caring.


I understand RL takes a part in how you play yesterday I felt shitty so my play was shitty. I however can't take what you say at base value because if you're mafia your entire goal is to lie and deceive me. Frankly in your play I'm not seeing the same kind of kush I normally see when you're town. I'm looking man D1 I had you as my town and even spoke to vivax about why he had you as scum and disagreed. It was based off the same read but the tone felt different at the time. The fact that you're questioning me now on that read when it lands you in the scumpile vs the townpile is sketchy to me.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 18:11 GMT
#1050
On September 06 2014 02:42 kushm4sta wrote:
like that is tied up in so much bad meta, and you aren't even considering the recent change in my life situation


A lot of players who I respect have ALWAYS talked about that being a good read on you so why would it be bad meta?

I get the feeling from your posts that you're scum caught for what you consider a "bad" reason because you're not arguing about how you think I'm wrong but more about how the meta is bad and that its silly that that is the reason. Like subconsciously you know there is a reason but you don't think mine is good.

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 18:11 GMT
#1051
On September 06 2014 02:45 kushm4sta wrote:
?? so you had me as town, then my tone changed a little, a now you have me as scum?? that is nebulous.


You play one way at the start then you started playing/sounding different so my read flipped. How is that nebulous?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 19:44 GMT
#1071
On September 06 2014 03:17 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 03:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 06 2014 02:42 kushm4sta wrote:
like that is tied up in so much bad meta, and you aren't even considering the recent change in my life situation


A lot of players who I respect have ALWAYS talked about that being a good read on you so why would it be bad meta?

I get the feeling from your posts that you're scum caught for what you consider a "bad" reason because you're not arguing about how you think I'm wrong but more about how the meta is bad and that its silly that that is the reason. Like subconsciously you know there is a reason but you don't think mine is good.


during the school year I am often known to have terrible activity d1 or terrible activity for the entire game. Actually last town game I got mislynched d2? i think because of inactivity.

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 03:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 06 2014 02:45 kushm4sta wrote:
?? so you had me as town, then my tone changed a little, a now you have me as scum?? that is nebulous.


You play one way at the start then you started playing/sounding different so my read flipped. How is that nebulous?

It's nebulous because I changed in a way you can only describe as "tone", and you don't point to any specific evidence. Also, if I was acting townie then, and scummy now, what makes my behavior then less telling than my behavior now?


I have seen low activity kush look townie based on your give a fuck and like I said I didn't see it this game after a flash of it at the start of the game so activity I understand can be low (I've had low activity the last two games because of that.) I just am not sure I see the the town!kush.

I will say this the way you have been posting the last hour or two FEELS more townie in general.

Can you give me your feelings on bunny aside from your love proposal? Also What do you think of Oats? I'm assuming you think these people are townie based on your reads list earlier where you left both of them off but apparently you hadn't even read Damdred and he was on your scum list so if you read these people what might you think?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 19:52 GMT
#1072
On September 06 2014 04:25 3d12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 04:09 kushm4sta wrote:
3d I made a post explaining why I was reconsidering my bat read. 2 posts actually. Read them?


I have been reading. In fact, I've probably been reading more than you would like me to:

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote:
Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons.

This idea looks pretty solidly townie.

Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum.


Here we see one hour separating "batsnacks I think you're scum" and "This idea looks pretty solidly townie." That post from bat was made three days prior. Why did this not have any effect on your read before?

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,

Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice.


I'm still trying to figure that out.
Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town:
On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?


I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it?

I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump.

He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh.


And here we are, one hour later, and you're back to "I'm still trying to figure that out." I can't tell if this is an honest approximation of "I'm re-reading and can't come to a conclusion yet" or "shit, I realized my inconsistency and should probably say something noncommittal so I can't be pinned for it." Who wins? Who's next? You decide.

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:40 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 06 2014 02:34 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 05 2014 19:57 kushm4sta wrote:
So poorer u disagree about batsnacks why ? Weird how I'm your top scum read due to inactivity, I do stuff, and then you don't even feel the need to comment on it.


Its not about the activity its about how much I think you care about the game and you frankly don't seem to care. I thought at first you cared but now I'm just not seeing it like I have before.



that's a sketchy as fuck thing to base a read on. you aren't me. You don't truly know my current level of caring AND you don't know how business could affect my level of caring.


This was the kicker though. This post comes between the first two I've quoted timeline-wise, and takes place approximately one hour before you use the same "sketchy" (translation: scummy) reasoning in your post about bat. I'll re-quote it, in case you forgot:

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,

Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice.


I'm still trying to figure that out.
Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town:
On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?


I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it?

I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump.

He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh.


So, with my case on the table, I will repeat my ultimatum. You will either post your list of updated reads with reasons for each, post a clear and concise explanation of why bat couldn't be scum, or you will be lynched. Make your choice.



Look at 3d12 growing some balls. LOL You kush you going to concede now?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 19:58 GMT
#1073
On September 06 2014 03:53 kitaman27 wrote:
A)
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But it really disgusts me how many people went afk and didn't give a shit.


Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to sheep Vivax because I don't feel like doing anything.

See you.


B)
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 04 2014 02:47 kushm4sta wrote:
yo whens flip


What the fuck are you doing this game?


Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how almost everyone is okay with me doing nothing.


Somebody get this guy a mirror.

It's really tempting to lynch him, just so we don't have to hear the "LOL I DID NOTHING AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. SUCK IT TOWN" speech at endgame.

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never post reads dude. I always hide them until I have an ironclad case or unless I have a really strong townread, of which I have neither.


I think you should have had more than enough time to put together an ironclad case by now.


I guess I'm not seeing what exactly you're calling Obi scum for. Just that he hasn't made his case?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 20:02 GMT
#1074
To Expand I get that you think its annoying but you really want to lynch someone because they might say "LAWL I was obvscum and you didn't see me doing shit"?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1076
On September 06 2014 05:08 kushm4sta wrote:
poof baby i will make a new list for you

(batsnacks) maybe
kitaman27
Oatsmaster
Vivax
(Obiwan) maybe but dont think so
mderg
27ninjabunnies


This is your scumpile I'm assuming right?
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 20:40 GMT
#1078
On September 06 2014 05:29 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 04:58 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 06 2014 03:53 kitaman27 wrote:
A)
On September 04 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
But it really disgusts me how many people went afk and didn't give a shit.


On September 05 2014 12:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm just going to sheep Vivax because I don't feel like doing anything.

See you.


B)
On September 04 2014 02:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 04 2014 02:47 kushm4sta wrote:
yo whens flip


What the fuck are you doing this game?


On September 03 2014 12:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I love how almost everyone is okay with me doing nothing.


Somebody get this guy a mirror.

It's really tempting to lynch him, just so we don't have to hear the "LOL I DID NOTHING AND GOT AWAY WITH IT. SUCK IT TOWN" speech at endgame.

On September 03 2014 12:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never post reads dude. I always hide them until I have an ironclad case or unless I have a really strong townread, of which I have neither.


I think you should have had more than enough time to put together an ironclad case by now.


I guess I'm not seeing what exactly you're calling Obi scum for. Just that he hasn't made his case?


For being a hypocrite. He states how he is "disgusted" by others absence and then afks himself. He calls kush out for activity after bragging about doing nothing himself. And yes, I'm also requesting a case.


I feel like his attitude is not scumOBI I was scum with him in world cup and he was super reserved and was scared to post. I don't get that vibe from him. I used a similar read in Heavy Weight on him If I remember correctly. I don't like the hypocrisy of being disgusted and afking. That is what I thought Micchan was scum for turns out he was just afk not caring town. I think Obi is town here as well.


I would love to hear the case from him though.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 21:08 GMT
#1079
::crickets::

Did we ever get a vote count?

Mod plz
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
September 05 2014 21:56 GMT
#1080
I will be out for awhile. Someone wake up the mod so we can get a vote count. If Its not up by the time I get back.

Plz Plz Plz talk more!! We need to hit a mafia today or the game becomes VERY difficult.
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