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3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 05 2014 19:07 GMT
#1066
Vote: kushm4sta

EBWOP to fix formatting. I don't know how stingy the host will be about that.
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 05 2014 19:07 GMT
#1067
GAH third time's a charm:

##Vote: kushm4sta
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 05 2014 19:25 GMT
#1069
On September 06 2014 04:09 kushm4sta wrote:
3d I made a post explaining why I was reconsidering my bat read. 2 posts actually. Read them?


I have been reading. In fact, I've probably been reading more than you would like me to:

On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?


On September 06 2014 02:59 kushm4sta wrote:
Reconsideration of batsnacks as town
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 08:08 batsnacks wrote:
I don't know who is mafia yet. You going after the two easiest targets makes me want to scum read you but I'm apprehensive because of certain things. You double voted micchan, that's not a mistake I associate with mafia. You're receptive to questions. You're not just running around calling people scum for no reason, even if I don't feel as strongly as you do about your reasons.

This idea looks pretty solidly townie.

Also the more I think about his "kita needs to vote with the majority idea," the more it seems like too dumb to be scum.


Here we see one hour separating "batsnacks I think you're scum" and "This idea looks pretty solidly townie." That post from bat was made three days prior. Why did this not have any effect on your read before?

On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,

Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice.


I'm still trying to figure that out.
Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?


I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it?

I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump.

He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh.


And here we are, one hour later, and you're back to "I'm still trying to figure that out." I can't tell if this is an honest approximation of "I'm re-reading and can't come to a conclusion yet" or "shit, I realized my inconsistency and should probably say something noncommittal so I can't be pinned for it." Who wins? Who's next? You decide.

On September 06 2014 02:40 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:34 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 05 2014 19:57 kushm4sta wrote:
So poorer u disagree about batsnacks why ? Weird how I'm your top scum read due to inactivity, I do stuff, and then you don't even feel the need to comment on it.


Its not about the activity its about how much I think you care about the game and you frankly don't seem to care. I thought at first you cared but now I'm just not seeing it like I have before.



that's a sketchy as fuck thing to base a read on. you aren't me. You don't truly know my current level of caring AND you don't know how business could affect my level of caring.


This was the kicker though. This post comes between the first two I've quoted timeline-wise, and takes place approximately one hour before you use the same "sketchy" (translation: scummy) reasoning in your post about bat. I'll re-quote it, in case you forgot:

On September 06 2014 03:52 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 03:43 kitaman27 wrote:
kush, since you seem to be coming up with town reads on a bunch of people on your original scum list,

Who do you think is mafia that you've actually read through? Top 2 names and why would be nice.


I'm still trying to figure that out.
Batsnacks still isn't clear for me. This is the post that opened my eyes to the possibility that he could be town:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 02:06 batsnacks wrote:
On September 06 2014 01:52 kushm4sta wrote:
batsnacks i think you;re scum but ofc im not certain. I did give some reasons behind my suspicion, though. Why do you think I'm scum?


I'm not really sure yet. I was hoping that if I voted you you'd do something scummy and then I could just keep my vote there and relax. Nothing is ever that easy though is it?

I think I am scum reading you because I don't think town!kush would be scum reading me right now. It is easier for me to believe that scum!kush wants to get rid of me because he feels like there is an opportunity. So maybe you can help me help you. What do I do to make you town read me, or at least scum read me for more satisfying reasons? Give me some hoops and I will try to jump.

He has a lot of confidence that people should be able to read him as town. And he looked like he had a genuine protown attitude. However, since then he has fucked off completely so I'm like ehh.


So, with my case on the table, I will repeat my ultimatum. You will either post your list of updated reads with reasons for each, post a clear and concise explanation of why bat couldn't be scum, or you will be lynched. Make your choice.
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 15:23 GMT
#1227
Good morning, guys. Got a little drunk last night, so I'm catching up slowly.

Anyone else around currently?
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 15:34 GMT
#1230
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 15:40 GMT
#1234
On September 07 2014 00:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.


What a truckload of fluff.


Man, you sound straight-up grumpy. What's crawled up your butt this morning? Or have you not had coffee yet either?
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 15:59 GMT
#1252
On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.


I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste?

So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse.


That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s?

Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post.

How did your mission go?
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:08 GMT
#1258
On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.


I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste?

So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse.


That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s?

Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post.

How did your mission go?


Actually, that reminds me. I was going to test this yesterday when I posted my theory about batsnacks.

##unvote
##Vote: batsnacks
##unvote
##Vote: kitaman27
##unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
##unvote
##Vote: Tehpoofter
##unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta
##unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi
##unvote
##Vote: mderg
##unvote
##Vote: 27ninjabunnies
##unvote
##Vote: Micchan
##unvote
##Vote: Damdred
##unvote
##Vote: The_Templar
##unvote
##Vote: 3d12
##unvote

If everything goes as planned, I will not be warned and bat will be lynched. If I receive a mod warning, I'm willing to read bat as null again, since my case was admittedly weak and based only on structural meta.
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:10 GMT
#1260
On September 07 2014 01:07 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.


I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste?

So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse.


That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s?

Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post.

How did your mission go?


So your firewall blocks google docs but it doesn't block tl.net... right...

Every enterprise level web filter I have ever worked with blocks tl.net because it is "Gaming related content."


Hey, you're just as baffled as I am. Reddit's not blocked either, only certain subreddits. Go figure. Probably a gamer on the IT staff.

If it helps though, we deal with PII so info security is a huge thing. Google docs is blocked under "cloud storage and remote file transfer"
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:15 GMT
#1264
On September 07 2014 01:01 kushm4sta wrote:
3d OK we heard your real-life based defense. Can you talk about your reads now? You are voting me sitll why?


I'm not voting you at the moment, I want to see how my test goes.

Your response to my ultimatum was good, even though it seemed a bit contrived, so you're off my radar for the moment. Currently, I'd like to see batsnacks lynched unless my test comes back a failure. This guy had just done too many unexplainably weird things during D1 and D2 to escape notice. If he's trying to act town, he's doing a poor job of it.

What I'm confused about regarding you, kush, is this post:

On September 06 2014 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
mderg
He keeps contradicting himself over and over again about it being dumb to talk about missions, then talking about the missions. Why? Easy shit for scum to talk about.


Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 02:56 mderg wrote:
I think the Micchan lynch is our best option right now. Yes, he's an easy target but there's a reason for that. His play didn't really look townie.

##vote: Micchan

The way he phrases this is really sketch. "His play didn't really look townie" And admitting that he's an easy target shows inherent guilt.

Plus not a lot of content at all. And nothing that looks townie.
And people don't get modkilled in this game right?
##vote mderg



So far, nobody has mentioned mderg. In fact, everyone was kind of taking it for granted that he had afk'd his way out of the game. You're the only one with a reason to believe he's still playing. Why? Do you really think he's scummy or are you just looking to plynch him for afk?
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:17 GMT
#1265
On September 07 2014 01:12 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:10 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:07 batsnacks wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.


I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste?

So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse.


That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s?

Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post.

How did your mission go?


So your firewall blocks google docs but it doesn't block tl.net... right...

Every enterprise level web filter I have ever worked with blocks tl.net because it is "Gaming related content."


Hey, you're just as baffled as I am. Reddit's not blocked either, only certain subreddits. Go figure. Probably a gamer on the IT staff.

If it helps though, we deal with PII so info security is a huge thing. Google docs is blocked under "cloud storage and remote file transfer"


Tell me the name of the webfilter your company is using and I will consider unvoting you. It should say the name of the filter whenever you try to view a blocked page which, you have done before.


It does, but I don't fucking remember. It's some blockpage.cgi on 10.10.1.200 or something like that. You really think I'd get drunk the night before I have to go to work? No, I don't have to walk into that place again until Monday, thank fuck.
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:22 GMT
#1268
On September 07 2014 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:15 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:01 kushm4sta wrote:
3d OK we heard your real-life based defense. Can you talk about your reads now? You are voting me sitll why?


I'm not voting you at the moment, I want to see how my test goes.

Your response to my ultimatum was good, even though it seemed a bit contrived, so you're off my radar for the moment. Currently, I'd like to see batsnacks lynched unless my test comes back a failure. This guy had just done too many unexplainably weird things during D1 and D2 to escape notice. If he's trying to act town, he's doing a poor job of it.

What I'm confused about regarding you, kush, is this post:

On September 06 2014 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
mderg
He keeps contradicting himself over and over again about it being dumb to talk about missions, then talking about the missions. Why? Easy shit for scum to talk about.


On September 04 2014 02:56 mderg wrote:
I think the Micchan lynch is our best option right now. Yes, he's an easy target but there's a reason for that. His play didn't really look townie.

##vote: Micchan

The way he phrases this is really sketch. "His play didn't really look townie" And admitting that he's an easy target shows inherent guilt.

Plus not a lot of content at all. And nothing that looks townie.
And people don't get modkilled in this game right?
##vote mderg



So far, nobody has mentioned mderg. In fact, everyone was kind of taking it for granted that he had afk'd his way out of the game. You're the only one with a reason to believe he's still playing. Why? Do you really think he's scummy or are you just looking to plynch him for afk?



i think his d1 was pretty scummy. and it doesn't help that he completely stopped playing.


I'm sorry, so you do or do not think he is still playing? Because I'm not sure why you would try and raise a case against him if you think he's afk. Voting is mandatory. If he doesn't show up in 3 hours, he's modkilled anyway. I remember this was part of the reason I was suspicious of poofter on D1, although Micchan had actually made a few posts and could have been still active.
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:25 GMT
#1271
On September 07 2014 01:23 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:08 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.


I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste?

So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse.


That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s?

Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post.

How did your mission go?


Actually, that reminds me. I was going to test this yesterday when I posted my theory about batsnacks.

##unvote
##Vote: batsnacks
##unvote
##Vote: kitaman27
##unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
##unvote
##Vote: Tehpoofter
##unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta
##unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi
##unvote
##Vote: mderg
##unvote
##Vote: 27ninjabunnies
##unvote
##Vote: Micchan
##unvote
##Vote: Damdred
##unvote
##Vote: The_Templar
##unvote
##Vote: 3d12
##unvote

If everything goes as planned, I will not be warned and bat will be lynched. If I receive a mod warning, I'm willing to read bat as null again, since my case was admittedly weak and based only on structural meta.

Last warning, one more of this and you will be modkilled.
Also, anyone trying to use mod warnings as a read is dumb since we warn both town and scum and will not hesitate to kill either. Even in lylo.


Thank you for clarifying, Haru.

Well bat, looks like you were just being a trolly asshole after all. Glad we figured that out.

##Vote: kushm4sta

So, about this mderg wagon...
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:26 GMT
#1272
On September 07 2014 01:24 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:22 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:20 kushm4sta wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:15 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:01 kushm4sta wrote:
3d OK we heard your real-life based defense. Can you talk about your reads now? You are voting me sitll why?


I'm not voting you at the moment, I want to see how my test goes.

Your response to my ultimatum was good, even though it seemed a bit contrived, so you're off my radar for the moment. Currently, I'd like to see batsnacks lynched unless my test comes back a failure. This guy had just done too many unexplainably weird things during D1 and D2 to escape notice. If he's trying to act town, he's doing a poor job of it.

What I'm confused about regarding you, kush, is this post:

On September 06 2014 08:39 kushm4sta wrote:
mderg
He keeps contradicting himself over and over again about it being dumb to talk about missions, then talking about the missions. Why? Easy shit for scum to talk about.


On September 04 2014 02:56 mderg wrote:
I think the Micchan lynch is our best option right now. Yes, he's an easy target but there's a reason for that. His play didn't really look townie.

##vote: Micchan

The way he phrases this is really sketch. "His play didn't really look townie" And admitting that he's an easy target shows inherent guilt.

Plus not a lot of content at all. And nothing that looks townie.
And people don't get modkilled in this game right?
##vote mderg



So far, nobody has mentioned mderg. In fact, everyone was kind of taking it for granted that he had afk'd his way out of the game. You're the only one with a reason to believe he's still playing. Why? Do you really think he's scummy or are you just looking to plynch him for afk?



i think his d1 was pretty scummy. and it doesn't help that he completely stopped playing.


I'm sorry, so you do or do not think he is still playing? Because I'm not sure why you would try and raise a case against him if you think he's afk. Voting is mandatory. If he doesn't show up in 3 hours, he's modkilled anyway. I remember this was part of the reason I was suspicious of poofter on D1, although Micchan had actually made a few posts and could have been still active.


i was under the impression that modkills for not voting weren't happening until later? I really cant konw if he's still playing or not. Only he knows that.


Actually, this is a good point, and we have a co-host present.

Haru, could you tell us: If mderg does not vote by the deadline, will he be modkilled on the spot, or later on?
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 16:53 GMT
#1298
On September 07 2014 01:30 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:25 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:23 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:08 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:59 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:34 3d12 wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:26 Damdred wrote:
##Vote: 3d12

I think your scummy vivax, but 3d ignoring a ton of posts from poof and other people calling him scummy. Hes been doing it all game, with nb, with poof and with me. He has not interacted with the claims that hes scum hes just let people fight for his towniness without actually fighting himself.


Well, good morning to you too!

I haven't been ignoring the posts. I actually think poofter is pretty scummy too, but I don't have my notes with me to type up my case. I could maybe reconstruct the case from his posts, but I would need coffee first.

As for right now, I'm still catching up. Might take a break to get coffee, ease the process along. If you have any opinions/answers you want, post. I'll respond to whatever relevant ones I find, but idk if you're looking for a particular repsonse over others.


I'm always super suspicious when people say they've made hand written notes about the game. Why would anyone do that? You need a computer to play, why not use a word processor so you can copy paste?

So my reason for posting right now is I don't believe your lame "don't have my notes can't post what I want" excuse.


That's nice. At my job, they fire people who plug removable storage media into the computers and the firewall blocks google docs. So if I want to be able to access my notes at work, they have to be on paper. And why use a word processor when my notes are just +'s and -'s with short reasons and post #'s?

Also, this is just a silly post coming from "I have a case built in notepad but don't want to show you" guy. That's even more suspect than my "I have notes, but I cba to go across town to get them" post.

How did your mission go?


Actually, that reminds me. I was going to test this yesterday when I posted my theory about batsnacks.

##unvote
##Vote: batsnacks
##unvote
##Vote: kitaman27
##unvote
##Vote: Oatsmaster
##unvote
##Vote: Tehpoofter
##unvote
##Vote: Vivax
##unvote
##Vote: kushm4sta
##unvote
##Vote: ObiWanShinobi
##unvote
##Vote: mderg
##unvote
##Vote: 27ninjabunnies
##unvote
##Vote: Micchan
##unvote
##Vote: Damdred
##unvote
##Vote: The_Templar
##unvote
##Vote: 3d12
##unvote

If everything goes as planned, I will not be warned and bat will be lynched. If I receive a mod warning, I'm willing to read bat as null again, since my case was admittedly weak and based only on structural meta.

Last warning, one more of this and you will be modkilled.
Also, anyone trying to use mod warnings as a read is dumb since we warn both town and scum and will not hesitate to kill either. Even in lylo.


Thank you for clarifying, Haru.

Well bat, looks like you were just being a trolly asshole after all. Glad we figured that out.

##Vote: kushm4sta

So, about this mderg wagon...


Also I don't see how you come to the conclusion that bats is in any way confirmed town through what happened just now.
He can still be mafia, it's just that the hosts won't allow you to figure him out that way.


Sorry, but what? I don't see that conclusion either, probably because it's not there. Why are you trying to put reads in my mouth? Trolly asshole != town.

On September 07 2014 01:28 Vivax wrote:
3d12 what do you think of damdred, or my proposed solution to the game for that matter.


Honestly, I haven't noticed much of damdred. I know he voted me about an hour ago, but as far as his posts go, they're like potato chips: a short burst of greasy flavor that leaves you wanting more. I like his read on kita, since it seems like he's paying attention to how the votes are flowing and reading into the motivations of kita's posting. It does seem like he's rather tunnel visioned on me though, but he could just be sheeping poofter to pressure me into giving answers.

I do agree with your point about congruence surrounding the Micchan vote, though. It seems like he wanted it to seem like he was investigating and coming up with reasons for his choices, particularly between the two bolded portions below:

On September 05 2014 11:48 Vivax wrote:
What Damdred wrote here before and after doesn't seem evry congruent to me, he might be scum.

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 11:38 Damdred wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
On September 03 2014 11:21 Damdred wrote:
Few questions for you bats:

Why did you initially vote Templar and give no explanation and then unvote him? Did he do something to deserve your unvote?

You also pay attention to 3d posting and conclude that he has sounded that way since before the game started. Do you think that his ideas and reactions are towny in nature? I know you said you thought his apologetic tone wasn't scummy.

I must say bat this is not the normal town Bats i'm used to normally you are pretty crazy, which you showed with your first two posts (what was the first post from btw). But your posts feel really formulaic atm and it worries me.



Hai I have no read on you. What are you reads?

Why aren't you currently sheeping me onto Micchan?


I'll answer the second question first.

Currently, I am nervous about Micchan. He made his initial post (which i pointed out also), that complains about the thread atmosphere which honestly was not bad at the time of his post. I think we were still in setup talk and were startin to move towards actual talk. He did not stay in the thread and help improve the conversation or even say what the mess was. On his return his posts were an excuse and throwing more suspicion onto 3d with no follow up. He has since lurked obviously. This is worrisome to me, but it is not enough for a scum read currently I think. We still have a good many hours left to search for scum and their is just not much to go on in his filter, theres no real meta case to be made as he is a newb or a smurf. And well I really do not like going for low hanging fruit.

The people who I would like to see more out of right now are:
-snip-


Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 03:04 Damdred wrote:
##Vote:Micchan

Theres a few things that have led me to this vote. The first being in the way that his posts have gone about. He casually threw more accusations at 3d when pressure on him was the highest. He complained about the thread but never tried to fix it, gave excuses why he did not post yesterday and never posted again. All he has done is lurk, and while lurking is not scummy his play and posts look and feel scummy to me. A couple games ago I got into a situation that was similar in arnie and I let GB slide doing somewhat the same things and I don't want to make that mistake again by letting someone go whos to scummy to be scum.



These posts are just about twelve hours apart, and with no further posts from Micchan since. I understand that Damdred prefers to hold his vote to get more information, but since he is claiming he had multiple scum reads at the end of D1, I'm not sure why he sheeped so hard onto the Micchan wagon and then failed to provide any real reason for the evolution of his read. I understand that the "lurker scum" situation happened in a previous game, but player/forum meta means 0% to me as this is my first game here. If you think that's a valid reason to move from "not enough for a scum read currently" to a vote in ~12 hours, I'd like to hear why.

Also, not sure what you mean by your "solution to the game," but did you see this post I made during N1? What do you think of this idea?

On September 04 2014 13:36 3d12 wrote:
<snip>
An idea I had in the shower earlier would be to have each person pick someone who will decide their vote for them. That way, if mafia are forced to vote a certain way, anyone who disobeys the "town meta" will stick out.

It's another shot in the dark, but since it's nighttime anyway, why not. It's been a while since the topic of missions was brought up. So far I see a few ways they could have affected the gameplay, as in my post to batsnacks, but nothing too solid. Any thoughts?

I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 19:09 GMT
#1443
For what it's worth, kita is making a lot of sense and bat is still looking pretty suspect.

##unvote
##Vote: batsnacks
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 19:26 GMT
#1485
On September 07 2014 04:22 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 04:20 Vivax wrote:
One thing that's for sure is that I won't be awarding any cred if bats flips scum.


Damdred is the guy you should be yelling at for going dark.


/agree

I don't know what Vivax is on, you're one of the most active people so far. Do you have any read on Oats or Obi?
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 19:27 GMT
#1493
On September 07 2014 04:26 3d12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 04:22 kitaman27 wrote:
On September 07 2014 04:20 Vivax wrote:
One thing that's for sure is that I won't be awarding any cred if bats flips scum.


Damdred is the guy you should be yelling at for going dark.


/agree

I don't know what Vivax is on, you're one of the most active people so far. Do you have any read on Oats or Obi?


EBWOP: Nevermind, he's back. Lol @ pulling over
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 06 2014 19:52 GMT
#1567
On September 07 2014 04:34 HaruRH wrote:
End of day: Night 2

[image loading]

Control Center: "Your mission is to steal the painting that is located conveniently close to the electric fence."

batsnacks: "Okay"
Tehpoofter: "Okay"
batsnacks: "Wait wha-"

BZZZT.

batsnacks the Mission Rolecop has been lynched!
Tehpoofter the Mission Mafia has failed his mission and have been electrocuted!
mderg the Vanilla Town have been modkilled for inactivity!

It is now nighttime.
You may speak.
New missions may go out via pms.


On September 07 2014 04:28 Damdred wrote:
I'm the cop

checked kish he's green


Confirmed liar. At least we learned a few things from this lynch. The most interesting to me being that the blue roles also have missions. That must be an issue of balancing the roles against the Mafia.

Did not see that coming, though. If anything, I thought it was a good case from kita and the suspicious behavior from batsnacks did nothing to help his case.

Tonight, I'm going back through poofter's filter. I was going to compose a response to his suspicious callout on me at the start of the day anyway, so this will be a good excuse to instead look for any scummy links in what he's posted.
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
3d12
Profile Joined August 2014
United States100 Posts
September 08 2014 16:32 GMT
#1706
Hey guys, just checking in from work to post a thought that I had. I haven't had time to look into this yet, my workload is insanely high today, but I wanted to bring it up in case anyone needs something to research:

Batsnacks flipped cop. Oats claimed a roleblock at the start of D2. That means bat most likely checked someone N1. He ended D1 with his vote on kitaman, then ended D2 with his vote on Damdred. Even though I still have a hunch that bat's mission for D2 was to switch his vote X number of times (5, if he only did the minimum) it's interesting to see where he left his vote at EoD.

Has anyone gone back through bat's filter to see who he cop-checked? I don't remember him claiming blue at any point, but he should have left some evidence in his filter about who he checked based on how his case changes from D1 to D2, right?
I've got the wit of the staircase with atomic clock precision and the phases of the moon directing all of my decisions, like this...
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