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Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 01:39 GMT

#696

Lynch all the people who overexpained their vote on micchien.

Mderg and another guy.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 01:40 GMT

#697

Damdred too

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 01:58 GMT

#701

I'm on the phone, difficult to find. Their filters aren't long at all if you had an inclination.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 04:18 GMT

#740

Obi town too.

I'm pretty sure there were at least 2 late adopters of the micchan wagon, I'll check later.

Kita come on dude, you can do better than that

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 04:57 GMT

#751

On September 04 2014 13:33 kitaman27 wrote:

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I'm still pretty annoyed that Micchan wasted our time like that. We'll never hear from him again and he could probably care less. I suppose it's part of the game though.

I try not to get too worked up over a things so I took a break this evening. Unfortunately, I can't "do better than that" this night cycle with a busy workday tomorrow, but if I don't get shot, things should be much easier once the weekend hits.

I trust you to cover for me tonight Oats

It didn't look like you were heavily invested in micchan's lynch anyway. Why the overblown reaction?
What makes you think you are in any danger of being shot?

I thought you had a scumread on me. What happened to that?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 14:21 GMT

#767

I was talking about this when I said overexplained votes

On September 04 2014 02:56 mderg wrote:
I think the Micchan lynch is our best option right now. Yes, he's an easy target but there's a reason for that. His play didn't really look townie.

##vote: Micchan

batsnacks, is it really that scummy to go after easy targets? You brought this up against bot poofter and kitaman. I don't think going after easy targets is inherently a scummy thing to do. After all they are easy targets because something about them is scummy.

On September 04 2014 03:04 Damdred wrote:
##Vote:Micchan

Theres a few things that have led me to this vote. The first being in the way that his posts have gone about. He casually threw more accusations at 3d when pressure on him was the highest. He complained about the thread but never tried to fix it, gave excuses why he did not post yesterday and never posted again. All he has done is lurk, and while lurking is not scummy his play and posts look and feel scummy to me. A couple games ago I got into a situation that was similar in arnie and I let GB slide doing somewhat the same things and I don't want to make that mistake again by letting someone go whos to scummy to be scum.

yeah im lynching damdred tmr.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 14:50 GMT

#769

so why are you mafia this game then kush?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 16:14 GMT

#775

I cannot proccess the walls of text that 3d12 is writing.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 16:16 GMT

#776

On September 05 2014 00:29 3d12 wrote:

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Always? No. And no, asking for reads is not inherently scummy. I find the "explain why you find this important" behavior pretty scummy for D1, considering there's generally very little to find important before the first lynch. Again, this may be a difference in meta, but typically nobody's opinion is worth asking about on D1 and most people who do ask for opinions at that stage are too wrapped up in their mafia mindset to come up with an opinion of their own. This obviously wasn't the case with you, as you showed later on, but it did make me suspicious when my first posted impression of bat was taken to mean a true town read by a lot of people.

Does this sound like a newbie writing it to anyone else?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 16:31 GMT

#778

Nah, it just doesnt sound like someone playing their first game of mafia. Lotta meta in that post. Like mafia stratagies and tendencies.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 16:31 GMT

#779

*forum mafia.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 04 2014 17:15 GMT

#785

What micchan situation. And what issue 3d?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 00:29 GMT

#861

Too much bullshit man. Bat not scum.
kita, why didn't you die?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 00:30 GMT

#862

Also I got role blocked. Jokes on you mafia, I don't have a role!!

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 00:54 GMT

#868

On September 05 2014 09:39 Vivax wrote:
Oats I find that read you give on batsnacks on a whim questionable

What scum is so so controversial?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 00:58 GMT

#870

On September 05 2014 09:45 Vivax wrote:
Anyway. I'm most confident into this scumread for the moment:

##Vote: Kushm4sta

Kita, your take on kush please.
Same for Oats or anyone else for that matter.

Yeah I could maybe talk myself into doing it. It's like he has occasionally posted good stuff but not with any consistency, like he only comments on stuff he can make a good post on.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 01:54 GMT

#888

Some of this is ok.
ITS NOT REPLICATED THROUGHOUT HIS FILTER MEANS HES SCUM

On September 02 2014 11:11 kushm4sta wrote:
@vivax honestly I don't feel like reading close enough to do what you're asking. Right now I'm filing all active people under "too early to tell" or "town leans".

Batsnacks looks terrible.
Long nonsense post - possibly satisfying a mission. (templar also did a super long shitty post hmm)
Zero content
Unexplained vote

##vote batsnacks

On September 02 2014 22:26 kushm4sta wrote:

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So why am I scum?
"jumping on the bandwagon?" not really a bandwagon since there are only two people voting for batsnacks, and I didn't really jump on it cause I was the first vote.
"refuting vivax" Why are my refutations scummy? What has vivax said that makes sense?

On September 04 2014 04:01 kushm4sta wrote:

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On September 03 2014 07:14 batsnacks wrote:

On September 03 2014 06:48 Tehpoofter wrote:

On September 03 2014 06:42 batsnacks wrote:

On September 03 2014 06:39 Tehpoofter wrote:

On September 03 2014 06:35 mderg wrote:

On September 03 2014 06:22 kushm4sta wrote:

On September 03 2014 05:38 mderg wrote:
Anyone else thinking that 3d12 is trying hard to get some newbie bonus?

how so

These give off that feeling to me. I may be thinking too much into it, though.

On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?

On September 02 2014 09:09 3d12 wrote:
Edit-post to fix quote formatting:

On September 02 2014 08:08 The_Templar wrote:
And the missions are required for mafia… or they will die. I would say that's better for us anyway.

I didn't quote the post directly. Sorry.

On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote:
You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes?

I think thats a stretch I don't think I'd give him townie points for any of these posts as even as a noob you could say them from either alignment. I think its is townie of you to point it out like it seems as if you're looking for scum.

Would you agree that 3d12's posts carry an apologetic tone? If yes, why do you think he is posting this way?

I do think that he is apologetic in nature on his posts. His entrance landed him in the scummy side for me because of the way it agreed with someone who already posted about something I thought was scummy. If hes scum its to try to scoot out of a lynch. He could be town trying to figure things out. He stays as scum for now to me thought.

What about you?

I agree that his tone sounds apologetic but I do not think in his case that this is alignment indicative. Reading his filter, I noticed he has been posting like this since before the game even began. Here are some posts before the game started:

On August 30 2014 00:51 3d12 wrote:
/in

I've never played, so if you're alright with a newbie joining in, then please do sign me up. I've read a few of the guides already though, and it seems like an interesting format. Seems like the type of game that might even be more fun in IRC format.

On August 30 2014 05:50 3d12 wrote:
Sorry for the double-post, but I just wanted to double-check. (And bear with me, this is only the first of what will likely be a deluge of dumb newbie questions)

Is the deadline of 12:30pm PDT the deadline for confirmation, or the deadline to post each day?

Then this is his first post as of the game starting:

On September 02 2014 08:44 3d12 wrote:
Forgive me if this seems like kind of a newbie question, but after catching up on the thread, the main thing that sticks out to me is the discussion about the voting. I'm not sure this is a good way to flush out scum. Personally, I'm with Damdred on the opinion that cutting the vote off early will cause tunneling on whoever has the majority at that point, so could someone enlighten me further on why this strategy would help?

An apologetic tone would usually raise alarm bells for me. Townies are inherently innocent and shouldn't be afraid of saying the wrong thing or accidentally saying too much; they have no reason to apologize. If townies are afraid of speaking their mind that might be an indicator of a poor thread environment. However, since 3d12 has been posting like this since before the game began I believe he's just nervous about playing in general. People have been going after him since his first post so there hasn't even been an opportunity for him to calm down yet. Overall I do not think 3d12's apologies are scummy.

i think this post makes sense. I don't know why people are saying batsnacks is being weird about the apologetic tone. Could be scum defending scum maybe? But it doesn't look like a post scumbatsnacks would make otherwise, just because he has to go so out of his way to find that evidence.

On September 04 2014 23:41 kushm4sta wrote:
over the last few pages which i kind of skimmed for my name I saw a lot of
"kush is mafia because he doesn't give a fuck/low activity"

I don't blame you for not being able reading me as town. But you have to realize that low activity doesn't make me mafia. This is from the pregame for cell mafia:

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So basically what I'm saying is low activity doesn't make me mafia.

also totally no followup

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 01:54 GMT

#889

##vote kush
Damdred you are cooking slowly but kush requires a bigger fire

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 02:41 GMT

#903

On September 05 2014 11:17 Damdred wrote:
Mush is interesting to me. I've read a few of his games during the night, and well it looks a bit more like storm 2 mush then titanic mush or showdown. So just from a meta, I would say he looks a bit scummy

But is he scummy or not? Why give the out saying "just looking at it from this perspective"?
This feels so much like scum not wanting to hammer their scum buddy.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

September 05 2014 02:45 GMT

#906

Looks or is scummy damdred?
You don't have any strong opinions for day 2 at all. Just pushy footing around my lynch and now kush's lynch.

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