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On September 13 2014 04:41 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 04:31 ritoky wrote:On September 13 2014 04:29 kushm4sta wrote:On September 13 2014 04:18 ritoky wrote:
if glowingbear is mafia right here, then someone should give him a cookie. why cuz he is being townie as hell right now. how so
he is skeptical of someone demonstrating uneven criticism.
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On September 13 2014 04:30 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 01:59 Vivax wrote:
Read my filter. I know it's tough as replacement but I don't want to repeat myself.
I'll mention one point I already mentioned previously, as a little favour: Read D2 EoD, he scumread Damdred, then voted batsnacks after Damdred came back to thread in a scummy way (after his dinner), calling it a vote for self-preservation.
He didn't attempt to move people to Damdred, only sat back and put his vote on the townie when he was about to get lynched. i read your filter, i read the thread. so here's my question to you: why did you waffle so hard on damdred during the last day phase? at the beginning of the phase you made a post where you adamantly wanted to lynch damdred since he was a liar and anti-town. yet the moment that the opportunity arose to move off that wagon onto someone else you did. why were your convictions so weak about confirmed mafia? also, i think oats is pretty town from his unflinching stance on damdred.
I started questioning my reads cause of the NK, like kita, and was annoyed at the inactivity during the day. 3d and bunnies posted almost nothing, and I voted them at the end of the day on a whim cause I didn't feel as confident any more, I think I expressed that sufficiently during the day, so go read again.
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On September 13 2014 04:50 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 04:41 kushm4sta wrote:On September 13 2014 04:31 ritoky wrote:On September 13 2014 04:29 kushm4sta wrote:On September 13 2014 04:18 ritoky wrote:
if glowingbear is mafia right here, then someone should give him a cookie. why cuz he is being townie as hell right now. how so he is skeptical of someone demonstrating uneven criticism.
can you quote something demonstrating this?
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On September 13 2014 04:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 02:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 13 2014 01:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 13 2014 01:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 13 2014 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:On September 12 2014 19:58 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 10:46 GlowingBear wrote:On September 12 2014 10:32 kushm4sta wrote:
you dont think it's an important question? Nope, I think it's a weird question. If you're town, you have to lynch mafia, it doesn't matter if it's day one, LYLO or MYLO. Also, nobody knows if we can have a mislynch as we don't know how many mafia are left. All we have are speculations regarding this matter. Only mafia would be worried about how many mislynches are left. Town needs to lynch mafia under any circumstances. Are you SERIOUS? Been a while since I read such a thing. On September 12 2014 10:58 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 09:35 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 08:41 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 08:24 Vivax wrote:
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I need to do another reread with the fresh flips in mind, but if you read closely you could figure out that for the moment Oats and 3d are my townreads, making your slot and kush the remaining scum.
I don't understand why you want people to post their reads before you. Usually you would come out with them on your own, eager to present your ideas, if you even have any.
Right now it looks like you ask for other people's reads to calibrate the ones you gonna post. i feel you all have been entrenched in the game and have biases and tunnels built up, and when i post my reads they will be a fresh perspective not polluted by such things. also you're doing a lot of saying things without giving reasoning. you should try the reasons part too. What do you think am I doing without given reason? I will probably be able to answer to that by pointing out where in my filter you had to look, but give me a first impression. you're calling people town and mafia without reasons specified even though i specifically asked for reasons. And I asked you for an example from my filter cause I would point you to where I wrote about the reasons, right now you're just making blanket statements. Yes I'm completely serious. Why do you think this is absurd? @ oats LOL so that's your strongest scumread? I love your logic. "Hey this guy just replaced 3d12 and has done nothing but pushing on kush lol you mafia". Seems legit. I'm working now, will be more active 6 hours from now seems legit that you would rather ridicule me than play the game. I'm playing the game since I came to the thread. I'm not ridiculing you, I am ridiculing your argument, which is bad. You've being playing the whole game and your best case is based on a player who has been playing for less than 20 hours and the argument is that I haven't given reads since I started (which is an insane requirement, I can't possibly read 100 pages of thread that fast). You just jumped on me after Vivax said my argument was bad. You didn't even tried to sum up my opening with the reads you had on 3d12 before. You might also be scum. Vivax, can you tell me why are you voting for kush? I can't read 3d. Totally weird playstyle. I don't give a shit that you can't read 100 pages. That's excuses. You can do other things. My best case is on scum. I'm not obligated to make the longest case ever. Just gotta find scum. I never saw Vivax's argument man. Just read you filter and saw things I don't like. And what are you going on about I might be scum man. I can't fucking play this game and be scum. You're making your best case on a player that just started playing, calling him scum for giving the excuse that he couldn't complete the inhumane task of reading 100 pages of thread and give a solid read on everyone. More than that, you said you couldn't read 3d12 so you're committing the same "sin" your top scumread is doing. You say that I should be reading the thread, yet you say that you haven't read Vivax post. Who's not reading the thread?
it's literally the post above where i said what you quoted at the start.
this isn't d1 "brah"
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On September 13 2014 04:58 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 04:30 ritoky wrote:On September 13 2014 01:59 Vivax wrote:
Read my filter. I know it's tough as replacement but I don't want to repeat myself.
I'll mention one point I already mentioned previously, as a little favour: Read D2 EoD, he scumread Damdred, then voted batsnacks after Damdred came back to thread in a scummy way (after his dinner), calling it a vote for self-preservation.
He didn't attempt to move people to Damdred, only sat back and put his vote on the townie when he was about to get lynched. i read your filter, i read the thread. so here's my question to you: why did you waffle so hard on damdred during the last day phase? at the beginning of the phase you made a post where you adamantly wanted to lynch damdred since he was a liar and anti-town. yet the moment that the opportunity arose to move off that wagon onto someone else you did. why were your convictions so weak about confirmed mafia? also, i think oats is pretty town from his unflinching stance on damdred. I started questioning my reads cause of the NK, like kita, and was annoyed at the inactivity during the day. 3d and bunnies posted almost nothing, and I voted them at the end of the day on a whim cause I didn't feel as confident any more, I think I expressed that sufficiently during the day, so go read again.
i read it, but my issue is you didn't take the initiative on the matter imo; you followed others onto that. like you were very willing to come off of damdred. contrary to your stated position.
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On September 13 2014 05:25 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 04:58 Vivax wrote:On September 13 2014 04:30 ritoky wrote:On September 13 2014 01:59 Vivax wrote:
Read my filter. I know it's tough as replacement but I don't want to repeat myself.
I'll mention one point I already mentioned previously, as a little favour: Read D2 EoD, he scumread Damdred, then voted batsnacks after Damdred came back to thread in a scummy way (after his dinner), calling it a vote for self-preservation.
He didn't attempt to move people to Damdred, only sat back and put his vote on the townie when he was about to get lynched. i read your filter, i read the thread. so here's my question to you: why did you waffle so hard on damdred during the last day phase? at the beginning of the phase you made a post where you adamantly wanted to lynch damdred since he was a liar and anti-town. yet the moment that the opportunity arose to move off that wagon onto someone else you did. why were your convictions so weak about confirmed mafia? also, i think oats is pretty town from his unflinching stance on damdred. I started questioning my reads cause of the NK, like kita, and was annoyed at the inactivity during the day. 3d and bunnies posted almost nothing, and I voted them at the end of the day on a whim cause I didn't feel as confident any more, I think I expressed that sufficiently during the day, so go read again. i read it, but my issue is you didn't take the initiative on the matter imo; you followed others onto that. like you were very willing to come off of damdred. contrary to your stated position.
Of course, I just told you about everything that changed that position. And you can't speak of missing initiative when I got the ball rolling onto Damdred during D2.
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Vote Count – Day 4
kushm4sta (1): Vivax
oatsmaster (0): kushm4sta
glowingbear (2): oatsmaster, kushm4sta
Not voting (2): ritoky, glowingbear
Currently, glowingbear is set to be lynched with 2 votes.
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 4 will end in (19:30 GMT (+00:00)).
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Both NKs sort of point to ritoky, maybe also Oats, not sure if Obi felt scummy on Oats though.
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Just got home. Gonna take a bath an read d2
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On September 13 2014 04:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 02:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 13 2014 01:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 13 2014 01:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 13 2014 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:On September 12 2014 19:58 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 10:46 GlowingBear wrote:On September 12 2014 10:32 kushm4sta wrote:
you dont think it's an important question? Nope, I think it's a weird question. If you're town, you have to lynch mafia, it doesn't matter if it's day one, LYLO or MYLO. Also, nobody knows if we can have a mislynch as we don't know how many mafia are left. All we have are speculations regarding this matter. Only mafia would be worried about how many mislynches are left. Town needs to lynch mafia under any circumstances. Are you SERIOUS? Been a while since I read such a thing. On September 12 2014 10:58 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 09:35 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 08:41 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 08:24 Vivax wrote:
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I need to do another reread with the fresh flips in mind, but if you read closely you could figure out that for the moment Oats and 3d are my townreads, making your slot and kush the remaining scum.
I don't understand why you want people to post their reads before you. Usually you would come out with them on your own, eager to present your ideas, if you even have any.
Right now it looks like you ask for other people's reads to calibrate the ones you gonna post. i feel you all have been entrenched in the game and have biases and tunnels built up, and when i post my reads they will be a fresh perspective not polluted by such things. also you're doing a lot of saying things without giving reasoning. you should try the reasons part too. What do you think am I doing without given reason? I will probably be able to answer to that by pointing out where in my filter you had to look, but give me a first impression. you're calling people town and mafia without reasons specified even though i specifically asked for reasons. And I asked you for an example from my filter cause I would point you to where I wrote about the reasons, right now you're just making blanket statements. Yes I'm completely serious. Why do you think this is absurd? @ oats LOL so that's your strongest scumread? I love your logic. "Hey this guy just replaced 3d12 and has done nothing but pushing on kush lol you mafia". Seems legit. I'm working now, will be more active 6 hours from now seems legit that you would rather ridicule me than play the game. I'm playing the game since I came to the thread. I'm not ridiculing you, I am ridiculing your argument, which is bad. You've being playing the whole game and your best case is based on a player who has been playing for less than 20 hours and the argument is that I haven't given reads since I started (which is an insane requirement, I can't possibly read 100 pages of thread that fast). You just jumped on me after Vivax said my argument was bad. You didn't even tried to sum up my opening with the reads you had on 3d12 before. You might also be scum. Vivax, can you tell me why are you voting for kush? I can't read 3d. Totally weird playstyle. I don't give a shit that you can't read 100 pages. That's excuses. You can do other things. My best case is on scum. I'm not obligated to make the longest case ever. Just gotta find scum. I never saw Vivax's argument man. Just read you filter and saw things I don't like. And what are you going on about I might be scum man. I can't fucking play this game and be scum. You're making your best case on a player that just started playing, calling him scum for giving the excuse that he couldn't complete the inhumane task of reading 100 pages of thread and give a solid read on everyone. More than that, you said you couldn't read 3d12 so you're committing the same "sin" your top scumread is doing. You say that I should be reading the thread, yet you say that you haven't read Vivax post. Who's not reading the thread?
there are like 5 guys alive.
I cant read meaning I dont have a read even though I read his posts.
I have a read on you.
You are being incredibly factious. Do you think Im scum or not?
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On September 13 2014 05:47 Vivax wrote:
Both NKs sort of point to ritoky, maybe also Oats, not sure if Obi felt scummy on Oats though.
the night kills so bad man.
literally bad.
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I really don't like how ritoky replaces in and then starts to look for inconsistencies in my Damdred read that can easily be explained by reading what I wrote during D3, while my alignment can already be discerned by reading my D2 and the Damdred stuff.
I realize a replacement might simply be sloppy and not up to date with the game, but when a guy feels like annoying the most townie looking guy with pointless questions then it might just be he's pretending to be scumhunting.
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But I still think kush is our best option for aforementioned reasons so please vote for him.
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Why do you think scumkush decides to push his scumread scumread?
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On September 14 2014 00:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why do you think scumkush decides to push his scumread scumread?
Can you go into detail. He didn't push his scumread Dam D2 he voted bats for self preservation, that's my best argument.
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Ritoky, I don't think that post makes gb town. It's really defensive in nature. He is just giving excuses why he sucks. Which town might do but scum might do it too.
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Vivax how about you look at my content and see if it's scummy, rather than making assumptions about my behavior you can't make.
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Vote Count – Day 4
kushm4sta (1): Vivax
oatsmaster (0): kushm4sta
glowingbear (2): oatsmaster, kushm4sta
Not voting (2): ritoky, glowingbear
Currently, glowingbear is set to be lynched with 2 votes.
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 4 will end in (19:30 GMT (+00:00)).
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On September 13 2014 23:10 Vivax wrote:
I really don't like how ritoky replaces in and then starts to look for inconsistencies in my Damdred read that can easily be explained by reading what I wrote during D3, while my alignment can already be discerned by reading my D2 and the Damdred stuff.
I realize a replacement might simply be sloppy and not up to date with the game, but when a guy feels like annoying the most townie looking guy with pointless questions then it might just be he's pretending to be scumhunting.
So basically, omgus.
he is suspicious of me, and I'm beyond suspicion, so that makes me suspicious of him
Vivax you are not beyond suspicion.
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OATS IS SCUM
.:[b]Considering Day4[b]
1) Forced reads
[spoiler]On September 12 2014 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote:IM ALIVE!! Vivax rikoty glowing bear kush one scum here. 1-4 I dont think kush is scum and ive changed my mind about bunnies. So left with Vivax and Glowing bear ##vote glowing bearHe keeps getting on kush's case for caring about the number of mislynches. and this post Show nested quote +I don't like your idea. I understand it, but I don't like it. You're being too careless here. Making a list and not caring much for mislynches is irresponsible. It makes game easier to mafia, there will be less effort from town and we will have more chances of mislynching townies.
If we lynch down a list, it doesnt make the game easier for mafia.
And it doesnt increase the chance of mislynching townies from a totally neutral point of view.
Like hes been here a while and he hasnt done anything about the rest of the thread in terms of reads and stuff, just jumps on the first 'bad' looking posts and goes at it. [/spoiler]
It's detrimental to town to just make a list and lynch in order. This list could be affected by a good scum player and people would be ok with mislynches instead of searching for their top scum reads. That's why it makes the game easier to mafia than to town.
He accuses me of being here for a while and doing nothing in terms of reads, which is a poor argument considering I just replaced 3d12.
Also, that "I'M ALIVE" seems really fabricated, considering his low contribution to the thread, which I'll cover while talking about Day2
2) Not caring for the lynch
[spoiler]
On September 13 2014 02:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2014 01:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 13 2014 01:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On September 13 2014 00:37 GlowingBear wrote:On September 12 2014 19:58 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 10:46 GlowingBear wrote:On September 12 2014 10:32 kushm4sta wrote:
you dont think it's an important question? Nope, I think it's a weird question. If you're town, you have to lynch mafia, it doesn't matter if it's day one, LYLO or MYLO. Also, nobody knows if we can have a mislynch as we don't know how many mafia are left. All we have are speculations regarding this matter. Only mafia would be worried about how many mislynches are left. Town needs to lynch mafia under any circumstances. Are you SERIOUS? Been a while since I read such a thing. On September 12 2014 10:58 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 09:35 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 08:41 ritoky wrote:On September 12 2014 08:24 Vivax wrote:On September 12 2014 08:18 ritoky wrote:
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i plan to give them, but i would prefer that everyone give their potential teams of 2 mafia and why first. I need to do another reread with the fresh flips in mind, but if you read closely you could figure out that for the moment Oats and 3d are my townreads, making your slot and kush the remaining scum. I don't understand why you want people to post their reads before you. Usually you would come out with them on your own, eager to present your ideas, if you even have any. Right now it looks like you ask for other people's reads to calibrate the ones you gonna post. i feel you all have been entrenched in the game and have biases and tunnels built up, and when i post my reads they will be a fresh perspective not polluted by such things. also you're doing a lot of saying things without giving reasoning. you should try the reasons part too. What do you think am I doing without given reason? I will probably be able to answer to that by pointing out where in my filter you had to look, but give me a first impression. you're calling people town and mafia without reasons specified even though i specifically asked for reasons. And I asked you for an example from my filter cause I would point you to where I wrote about the reasons, right now you're just making blanket statements. Yes I'm completely serious. Why do you think this is absurd? @ oats LOL so that's your strongest scumread? I love your logic. "Hey this guy just replaced 3d12 and has done nothing but pushing on kush lol you mafia". Seems legit. I'm working now, will be more active 6 hours from now seems legit that you would rather ridicule me than play the game. I'm playing the game since I came to the thread. I'm not ridiculing you, I am ridiculing your argument, which is bad. You've being playing the whole game and your best case is based on a player who has been playing for less than 20 hours and the argument is that I haven't given reads since I started (which is an insane requirement, I can't possibly read 100 pages of thread that fast). You just jumped on me after Vivax said my argument was bad. You didn't even tried to sum up my opening with the reads you had on 3d12 before. You might also be scum. Vivax, can you tell me why are you voting for kush? I can't read 3d. Totally weird playstyle. I don't give a shit that you can't read 100 pages. That's excuses. You can do other things.
My best case is on scum. I'm not obligated to make the longest case ever. Just gotta find scum. I never saw Vivax's argument man. Just read you filter and saw things I don't like. And what are you going on about I might be scum man. I can't fucking play this game and be scum.
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He says he can't read 3d and does not hesitate to vote me, even when he has got more reads on people who has being playing with him
He says that not completing the task of reading 100 pages is just excuses and that I should do other things (like trying to figure out who is acting through a mafia mindset, maybe?)
He is just not caring for the lynch, as I am an easy target now. He is completely comfortable with lyching anyone because no one is pointing him out and he will survive until LYLO. This is a comfortable mafia picking on an easy target.
.:Considering day2
3) Lurking
After reading day2, you'll see that Oatsmaster is always lurking and just comes to the thread to drop one liners and to vote. He is comfortable in that position because is never the target. He doesn't have to get involved because he made considerable posts on day one and people are not caring for him. He doesn't need to defend himself. He also doesn't need to contribute, but just waits town to kill themselves.
Examples of what I said:
[spoiler]
On September 05 2014 10:54 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote kush
Damdred you are cooking slowly but kush requires a bigger fire
On September 06 2014 02:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
##unvote
##vote kush
On September 07 2014 03:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im not coming back.
night dudes.
On September 07 2014 12:12 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2014 12:00 27ninjabunnies wrote:On September 07 2014 11:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
kush's flailing makes me think hes town.
So bunnies/damdred.
Bunnies for that horrific post and Vivax scumread. Having a bad post doesnt make you mafia. noobclaiming does.
On September 08 2014 13:59 Oatsmaster wrote:
##vote Damdred
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We reached day4 with 100 pages of thread, and he has got 4 pages filter. Ritoky, the replacer, has 2 pages filter.
Oats is mafia.
##Vote: Oatsmaster
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