EPTxat is mafia
hapa is probably mafia aswell
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KelsierSC
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xat is mafia hapa is probably mafia aswell | ||
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sorry Xat | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:11 Xatalos wrote: I may have been mistaken about yamato. yeh me too, I was mistaken about you aswell | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:18 Hapahauli wrote: Kelsier - if you have the time, can you go over the last-minute lynch and draw conclusions about alignments? yep going to do that now | ||
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So that gives me Hap, Jat, GB , Turtle,Xat and Yama as town When I see that yam and Xat had the most votes before the switch. it now seems that day 1 mafia saw town was going down the wrong path and was happy to let things flow. people who gave that impression and are therefore my top scum Onegu - called rayn as mafia when the heat was on him, then did nothing. VA - I gave him an early town pass for his comments on dama but he just let that whole deadline flow with his vote on dama who was never really a likely target. So that means the people I need to kind of decide on are WoS, Dam and rayn WoS - seemed active at the deadline and he felt towny to me, I don't think his vote on Yam was that scummy he seemed to have good reasons for it and would have been my target if Xat and hapa didn't make me feel weird about it. I still think WoS is really town. he also said he would follow Jat if he switched and JAT is town so. Rayn - still seemed towny to me, but he wasnt here for the votes. He had his own meta with Hapa. Probably need to see what he says d2 Dam - I think this is going to be a person i have to evaluate hard. Like I thought he was town but a lot of my top town reads called him scum and he was one of the choices to go to. think hapa said "Robik or Dama" so I need to read his filter before I change. TLDR - Town (JAT,GB,turtle,Xat,Yam,Hap, WoS) Scum (Onegu, VA) unsure but will figure out (Dam, Rayn) | ||
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On August 24 2014 10:48 Hapahauli wrote: @ Kelsier One of the reasons I think you come out of this lynch looking really bad is your post-lynch stuff concerning Xatalos. Right before the lynch: Right after the lynch: This is a problem, because nothing about the lynch confirms Xat as town. You say so yourself in your last post: It's completely plausible for a mafia Xatalos to switch to lynch basically anyone but himself. Yet you went from 'Xat is mafia' pre-lynch, to basically putting him in a town pool afterwards. And this is after talking about how he still feels "off." Explain pl0x. So I think it was obvious that I thought Xata was mafia through most of D1. That is why when the vote switched I was pissed off and said the whole thing was fucking retarded. When Robik turned up mafia my instant thought was that Xat must be town hence my, sorry xat. Just an instant reaction thing. When I started analysing thing I thought that Xat did feel off , Still does feel off and that is why I mentioned that he could be SK. HOWEVER I mention IN THE POST. that SK hunting is not the aim of d2 and we need to be looking at people who didnt vote robik d1 and who seemed happy to sit back. That is why for now Xat is put in the town circle, he voted on the mafia and did type a lot of words. I don't think it is likely for Xat to be mafia. I don't see mafia Xat switching onto his mafia teammate considering the level of suspicion on Xat already. I don't think I come out of that looking bad at all I voted my read for a logical reason. I still think he is off but he is not the lynch today. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:04 Hapahauli wrote: But, why wouldn't Xat switch onto his teammate? Scum or town, he's expected to switch onto anything that wouldn't get him lynched. I suppose this is possible, I am looking at the last votes again and I see it was going to be Xat or Robik so yeh maybe he just switched to live and buy some credibility. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:10 justanothertownie wrote: WoS looks bad btw. says he will switch if I do (probably thought I wouldn't) and then didn't. No likey. think he just ran out of time tbh. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:11 justanothertownie wrote: No, he explicitly said he would not switch in the end. On August 24 2014 09:57 WaveofShadow wrote: No this isn't happening. I will not sheep you onto a target of your choosing. JAT if we switch I will follow you and you only. I still think we need to stay on yamato but I won't risk town not choosing this lynch. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:12 Hapahauli wrote: So what made you think he was town immediately then? I don't understand what went through your mind between this: ...and this. Robik flipped as mafia. | ||
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On August 24 2014 11:13 Hapahauli wrote: No shit. But what does that have to to with Xatalos? Xat voted on Robik. Like I said I hadn't done a full analysis | ||
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oh I missed that. eh I think that makes him more towny. At that point all the votes were on Robik so if WoS was mafia he would just switch to get some town points. | ||
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Town - JAT, GB, turtle, Hap, Yam, WoS. rayn rayn may be a surprise but i thought he was town all d1, I think his vote and anger at happa was genuine. Xat went hard against rayn and the only read VA gave was a mafia read of rayn. and I think both Xat and Va are scummy. Scum, Va, On, Xat Looking at the voting again, Xat switching to Robik doesn't actually clear him. The vote was between Xat and Robik at the point he switched and it looked like a desperate attempt to gain credibility and avoid death. He felt off as fuck d1 and so I still read him as scum/SK Unsure - Dam, | ||
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On August 24 2014 20:18 justanothertownie wrote: I don't care. As long as he in fact does start playing. You 2 are both not confirmed from the voteswitch because you both tried to save your own ass but I don't want to lynch either of you so you should maybe not use your time going at each other. The vote switch does confirm yamato town to some extent as he was the first person to vote on Robik. Ff he was scum then he had no reason at that point to switch onto his mafia partner. | ||
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On August 24 2014 22:16 GlowingBear wrote: Not hangover today! I can probably drink more. Anyway, if Robik was really mafia, the probability of mafia being comfortable with those two wagons is high, but not too high. That would put Xatalos and Yamato on the townpile for now. FOR NOW. Checking who Robik called town isn't the best thing IMO. Checking reads on him is more important. Specially if there is someone who scum reads him and then oddly town reads him. We will probably find it in early day1. I'll do that later. By the way, if neither me or turtle dies tonight, night kill will be pretty informative. If you read the end of D1 the switch onto Robik by Xata does not clear him in anyway. I don't think he is going to be a lynch target and the best idea is to lynch outside of the people voted on Robik. However I think studying carefully how Xat plays D2 will be highly revealing to me. | ||
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On August 24 2014 22:50 Damdred wrote: Hey kel why were you going to switch over to yamato at the last minute even though you felt you were voting scum anyway I felt yamato was scum for a long time I said that quite a lot, some of my top town also found him scummy. | ||
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On August 24 2014 23:42 Damdred wrote: Why is everyone trying to explain everything for xatalos? Its quite annoying frankly I'm not a idiot i understand why it has to be the people who didn't go to robik. I didn't ask for that explanation i asked him why those three and to develop cases. @Kel but why switch to yamato you had just as strong a scum read onxata and you thought both were mafia indeed you gave xata a lot more attention in your filter than qnyone else and the chances of his lynch were decent.... I thought Xata was scum, I thought Yamato was scum. If the voting had been different, say it was tied between yam and someone I thought was town then I would have switched over to Yam to make sure that vote went through and mafia didn't force through a ML. I ended up not switching because Xat tried to really push through a lynch on Yam (who he had read town and shared the same reads as) and Xat felt so unbelievably scummy that by the deadline I was thinking Yam must be town. | ||
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