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I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility.
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On August 24 2014 07:40 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote: I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. If you think so then vote yamato. Doesn't matter to me if you think I'm bussing.
I want you to explain your logic.
You are now sure yamata is mafia but you are pretty sure rayn is scum and hapa is still town.
So how can you be sure yam is mafia if you are sure rayn is mafia considering yam went hard against rayn.
you have no logical consistency, this is the only consistent aspect of your play.
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On August 24 2014 07:43 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:41 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 07:40 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote: I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. If you think so then vote yamato. Doesn't matter to me if you think I'm bussing. I want you to explain your logic. You are now sure yamata is mafia but you are pretty sure rayn is scum and hapa is still town. So how can you be sure yam is mafia if you are sure rayn is mafia considering yam went hard against rayn. you have no logical consistency, this is the only consistent aspect of your play. I'm more confident in yamato being scum than rayn being scum atm. That's all there is. Besides rayn hasn't *really* even pushed yamato. I think rayn never even voted him, and neither did yamato vote for rayn. Could have been distancing.
holy fuck do you really think yamato didn't go hard on rayn?
Like read yamato's posts after the first post Hapa made.
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On August 24 2014 07:49 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 07:46 Xatalos wrote: It would also explain how yamato managed to express genuine emotions when posting about rayn. Maybe he knew that rayn was scum? Yeah he did post against rayn but he never voted or brought any additional arguments against him. That's semi-bussing at best. It is still the hardest yamato pushed anything this game, no? Yes, but still not very hard. And I've often pushed scum as scum D1, then dropped it by the end of the day (like yamato here against rayn). Whatever. I just want to lynch yamato. We can think about connections later.
Be scummier holy fuck.
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On August 24 2014 07:51 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:49 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 07:49 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 07:47 justanothertownie wrote:On August 24 2014 07:46 Xatalos wrote: It would also explain how yamato managed to express genuine emotions when posting about rayn. Maybe he knew that rayn was scum? Yeah he did post against rayn but he never voted or brought any additional arguments against him. That's semi-bussing at best. It is still the hardest yamato pushed anything this game, no? Yes, but still not very hard. And I've often pushed scum as scum D1, then dropped it by the end of the day (like yamato here against rayn). Whatever. I just want to lynch yamato. We can think about connections later. Be scummier holy fuck. So are you ever voting for your top scumread, yamato, or not?
You and Yamato are both my top scumreads
I would happily lynch either of you right now
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so Xat all you want me to do is lynch yam
But I read you as scum so badly and you are pushing on Yam. Even though he was town for you. And you shared his read on rayn who is still scum for you.
Like I would happily lynch over yamato and feel really good about it.
So when someone who I see is scum is puhsing hard for a lynch like it makes me uneasy, does that make sense.
You need to convince me you are town and you havent fucking done it you could be bussing, yam could be town ( I dont think he is_ but with how eager you are now to push this lynch through and live another day it just screams scum.
I cant think of one good reason to keep you for d2
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I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you. Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid. I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now.
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On August 24 2014 09:13 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:13 KelsierSC wrote: I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you. Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid. I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now. You are either the densest person on earth or you're mafia.
I just don't like your read that doesn't make me dense or mafia. The read is he is town because he is posting a lot notice he has nothing substantial until his sheep on rayn and then this push on yam, it isnt fucking difficult to mimic your town play if your town play is spamming nonsense and not giving a read
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On August 24 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:12 Damdred wrote: Ok I understand what you are saying now JAT.
I do not think that Yamato is mafia this game, this is mainly experienced based with him so I could be dead wrong granted. Most of his posts have had some thought behind it and look more like his other town games I have been with him in rather than the game I played with him when we were mafia together. His posts there were empty and mostly taunted people, here he hasn't really taunted he has had thoughts about Rayn, wave granted he didn't give a bigger read but he did give an initial one which is more than a lot of the time he does in scum games.
And a huge point in Xatas lynch of him is that he isn't fighting he just gives up and dies which he hasn't done he has been back into the thread and has made other posts even though they haven't been as constructive as I would like it still seems more like town yamato to me.
Hapas post on Xata is pretty good I will admit but something just seems off about Xata this game. He is never this certain about stuff like this day one. I've said most of this before but hes slung stuff and defended people posts later, hes exaggerated things in certain posts when earlier he said the opposite and then goes back. Totally sheeped hapas case on Rayn without even questioning his abscense or the validity of the case, and for someone who was super happy to have confirmed town didn't even notice the GB part of the post until someone else pointed it out. He hoped around from target to target until he found one (yamato) that he could get traction on and push. So yea hes scummy to me Did you even look at the filter I linked where I made a hard push on yamato D1 and he was scum?
So? that is irrelevant tbh. you seem scummy and your push is illogical.
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On August 24 2014 09:17 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 KelsierSC wrote: I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you. Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid. I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now. You are either the densest person on earth or you're mafia. I just don't like your read that doesn't make me dense or mafia. The read is he is town because he is posting a lot notice he has nothing substantial until his sheep on rayn and then this push on yam, it isnt fucking difficult to mimic your town play if your town play is spamming nonsense and not giving a read If you had ever seen even one of my scumgames you would agree with Hapa.
I just don't think your "town game" is hard to mimic.
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On August 24 2014 09:18 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:16 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 KelsierSC wrote: I think Hapa's read on you is shit tier to be honest. Maybe you are "dumping" what is on your mind but my main problem is that your arguments and reads have had absolutely no logic to them and there has been absolutely nothing substantial from you. Your push on Yam just reeks of a scum trying to survive one more day. You are ignoring a connection between he think rayn is scum, so do you, but now you are sure he is scum aswell. like fuck this you are just horrid. I really think Xat is the lynch over Yam now. You are either the densest person on earth or you're mafia. I just don't like your read that doesn't make me dense or mafia. The read is he is town because he is posting a lot notice he has nothing substantial until his sheep on rayn and then this push on yam, it isnt fucking difficult to mimic your town play if your town play is spamming nonsense and not giving a read The problem here is that you obviously didn't read any of the games I linked. That and you're lynching a guy with 17 pages of Day 1 filter. Scum can be active, but no way can scum cannot fake that level of activity. In the history of this site, I've never seen someone have that large of a Day 1 filter. Ever.
Ok I notice you and Xat are both dodging around the sheer illogical aspect of his play.
As for whatever he did in an other game, frankly that is less relevant to me.
Also I look for quality in posts not quantity and a lot of his posts are just nonsense
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On August 24 2014 09:19 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:17 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:On August 24 2014 09:12 Damdred wrote: Ok I understand what you are saying now JAT.
I do not think that Yamato is mafia this game, this is mainly experienced based with him so I could be dead wrong granted. Most of his posts have had some thought behind it and look more like his other town games I have been with him in rather than the game I played with him when we were mafia together. His posts there were empty and mostly taunted people, here he hasn't really taunted he has had thoughts about Rayn, wave granted he didn't give a bigger read but he did give an initial one which is more than a lot of the time he does in scum games.
And a huge point in Xatas lynch of him is that he isn't fighting he just gives up and dies which he hasn't done he has been back into the thread and has made other posts even though they haven't been as constructive as I would like it still seems more like town yamato to me.
Hapas post on Xata is pretty good I will admit but something just seems off about Xata this game. He is never this certain about stuff like this day one. I've said most of this before but hes slung stuff and defended people posts later, hes exaggerated things in certain posts when earlier he said the opposite and then goes back. Totally sheeped hapas case on Rayn without even questioning his abscense or the validity of the case, and for someone who was super happy to have confirmed town didn't even notice the GB part of the post until someone else pointed it out. He hoped around from target to target until he found one (yamato) that he could get traction on and push. So yea hes scummy to me Did you even look at the filter I linked where I made a hard push on yamato D1 and he was scum? So? that is irrelevant tbh. you seem scummy and your push is illogical. It's pretty much exactly the same I did when I was town and yamato was scum earlier. Since you mainly scumread me because of this it makes zero sense not to compare it with my earlier play in a similar situation.
sick more dodging
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On August 24 2014 09:21 WaveofShadow wrote: KSC I have a question for you. You read me town, correct? And you think Xat is scum. If him and yamato are your strongest scumreads, and I am the leader of the push on yamato, why are you not voting for him?
I just don't like this town read being given to Xat by Hapa it feels off
Xata feels really fucking scummy and I dont like he is being called town
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On August 24 2014 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote: I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. Kelsier you need to answer for this because this makes no sense. You think Xat is bussing his mafia buddy. So how in the actual fuck does it make sense to vote the guy you think is bussing, as opposed to the guy you "think is mafia for sure"?
At the time, I felt Yam was definitely mafia, and he probably is. But! Xat had given him a town read.
However what I was saying is that yamata thought rayn was mafia ...along with you actually, Xat had the same read as that. So for him to flip so hard on a guy who shared the same read as you and that you called town just reeks of scum. I was basically pointing out logical inconsistency.
I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt.
My main thing Is I dont want Xat given a town read. Honestly hap you defing Xat this hard is fucking weird as fuck considering how scummy he has played and your "town " reason is shit tier
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On August 24 2014 09:41 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote: I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. Kelsier you need to answer for this because this makes no sense. You think Xat is bussing his mafia buddy. So how in the actual fuck does it make sense to vote the guy you think is bussing, as opposed to the guy you "think is mafia for sure"? At the time, I felt Yam was definitely mafia, and he probably is. But! Xat had given him a town read. However what I was saying is that yamata thought rayn was mafia ...along with you actually, Xat had the same read as that. So for him to flip so hard on a guy who shared the same read as you and that you called town just reeks of scum. I was basically pointing out logical inconsistency. I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. My main thing Is I dont want Xat given a town read. Honestly hap you defing Xat this hard is fucking weird as fuck considering how scummy he has played and your "town " reason is shit tier So do it please. It shouldn't be a problem since you certainly scumread yamato.
you really need to stop doing this,
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On August 24 2014 09:42 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote: I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. Kelsier you need to answer for this because this makes no sense. You think Xat is bussing his mafia buddy. So how in the actual fuck does it make sense to vote the guy you think is bussing, as opposed to the guy you "think is mafia for sure"? At the time, I felt Yam was definitely mafia, and he probably is. But! Xat had given him a town read. However what I was saying is that yamata thought rayn was mafia ...along with you actually, Xat had the same read as that. So for him to flip so hard on a guy who shared the same read as you and that you called town just reeks of scum. I was basically pointing out logical inconsistency. I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. My main thing Is I dont want Xat given a town read. Honestly hap you defing Xat this hard is fucking weird as fuck considering how scummy he has played and your "town " reason is shit tier Apparently I'm "shit tier" for using all the information available to me, while you blissfully ignore it. Good to know. Show nested quote +I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. Going to hold you to this.
you are using selective irrelevant information imo
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On August 24 2014 09:42 justanothertownie wrote: If it is a bus attempt I don't see the fucking problem.
he is being given a town read.
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On August 24 2014 09:44 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2014 09:43 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:42 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 09:39 KelsierSC wrote:On August 24 2014 09:34 Hapahauli wrote:On August 24 2014 07:35 KelsierSC wrote: I really don't like what Xata has done here.
Yamato was his town read for a long time. But now he goes full against him being scum. Yeh I agree but it just seems such a big switch.
Considering Xat said he still has Hapa as town and still has rayn as leaning scummy how can be against someone who had all the same reads as him.
I think Yam is mafia here for sure but Xat is just bussing him to get some credibility. Kelsier you need to answer for this because this makes no sense. You think Xat is bussing his mafia buddy. So how in the actual fuck does it make sense to vote the guy you think is bussing, as opposed to the guy you "think is mafia for sure"? At the time, I felt Yam was definitely mafia, and he probably is. But! Xat had given him a town read. However what I was saying is that yamata thought rayn was mafia ...along with you actually, Xat had the same read as that. So for him to flip so hard on a guy who shared the same read as you and that you called town just reeks of scum. I was basically pointing out logical inconsistency. I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. My main thing Is I dont want Xat given a town read. Honestly hap you defing Xat this hard is fucking weird as fuck considering how scummy he has played and your "town " reason is shit tier Apparently I'm "shit tier" for using all the information available to me, while you blissfully ignore it. Good to know. I will probably vote for yam, just Xat is super fucking scummy aswell and it seems like a bus attempt. Going to hold you to this. you are using selective irrelevant information imo Looking at both of his scumgames are "selective" and "irrelevant" apparently. And you're the one harping on "logic?"
my reasoning uses his poor logic from this game!
your reason is that "oh there is no way he could post a lot as mafia" like be fucking real
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what the fuck is this robik lynch fuck this last minute vote
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On August 24 2014 09:58 Xatalos wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote IAmRobik
of course he is mafia, just lynch a town so you survive one more dauy
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