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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 16:51 GMT
#581
dshould be a ?
damn keyboard
bye
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 16:54 GMT
#582
On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?

What are you trying to achieve by asking this?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 22 2014 16:55 GMT
#583
On August 23 2014 01:46 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
Alright I'm out. Likely won't be posting until tomorrow. MAYBE later tonight after I cast a ban match.
REALLY not a fan of KSC at all I suggest people look at him a little more closely---but then of course he's been attacking me most of the game so you should be ok with that, right?

Dunno wtf hapa/onegu are doing.
Or yamato.
Mayb one of them scum
I dunno


what happened to your scum read of dam?


He doesn't have a scum read on me look at these posts and tell me where the read is.

On August 22 2014 11:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
But again like I said, [i]probably[/] not scum in all likelihood so I ignore him for now and let the game progress.
I think damdred could be scum.
Clearly here but all his very few posts are in defense of something. Seems like he doesn't want to stick his neck out in a phase of the game that is normally pretty damn innocuous.

Damdred, be honest.
Are you scum?
Don't lie to me.

DON'T LIE TO ME


This isn't really a read on me at all, this is just hey could be scum so i might as well ask

He mentioned me again when he asked me a question and not mention much of me past then until this post

On August 22 2014 22:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also consider how eager he is to actively answer any and all questions thrown at him. Scum can be selective or often need to be prompted.


Which I take it is towards me. At the time the thread was talking about downplaying myself. This is weird post another slight slow push

On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.


As far as I can tell, he says for the reasons earlier, but there have been no reasons that i've seen him post. Xat posted a gut feeling but backed off others have said i'm to apologetic but no real reasons.

On August 22 2014 23:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:18 Damdred wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:13 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is noone calling yamato mafia?


are you calling him mafia?

I gave him a town pass today because of his interaction with you. He said someething about not being able to read WoS that well but did bring up his early posting being fluffy and that felt like town to me. I think mafia would have just said "he has shit posted yeh"


Yamato is always mafia until he posts and shows he isn't.

You guys are right though, my posts do look a little downplay I guess my sarcasm was not really getting across especially in the post about being scum read for not being awkward.

SO apologetic. Is damdred REALLY town for this? I learned not to do this after my first towngame ever i think.


Just slowly trying to get people to think hey this guy could really be scum

On August 23 2014 01:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 23 2014 01:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave what is your reasoning for not scumreading GlowingBear?
What you are doing right now is just trying to discredit me for no reason. It makes no sense to me because what i have said is basically "i have no fucking idea who you think is mafia and why" and "what you say is not making sense to me". The way to conter it is to start making sense, not to discredit someone. Everyone who pushes lynches has lead mislynches. That does not make me bad. For the record i after my break i have voted for mafia in 75% of all my day phases as town. So i am definitely not bad and if i happen/happened to mislynch you it's on YOU because YOU failed to convince the town you are town.

I GAVE MULTIPLE REASONS FOR IT
No.
You know what?
No.
I'm not wasting another fucking lunch hour going over every minute piece of bullshit you spew and having you throw shit back on me.

That shit may have worked in Persona when you mislynched me but it won't here.
If you lynch me here you are damn fucking well taking full responsibility for it.

I'm done attempting to convince you; I'm going to play the game how I damn well fucking please, seemingly inane questions, perceived contradictions and all.

Ok, fine. But if you want it to be like that stop raging at rayn. Ignore him and talk about other people.

I have done plenty of that but it all falls by the wayside because godrayn deems it so

I shoudl reread damdred again because mroe and mroe people are starting to twonread him I think


He says hes going to reread me again....thats fine he hasn't really analysed anything i've posted but its an effort

On August 23 2014 01:27 WaveofShadow wrote:
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On August 22 2014 21:38 Damdred wrote:
Ok caught up and had one cup of coffee so far.

I don't really care for Xatalos reads so much, i'm just going to ignore the part of me since he always does that to me. I don't get his scummy feels vs non scummy feels. Kel is the lowest on the town scale for him but he has given some of the better material in this thread so far and seems the most likely to be towny out of the early posters and he continues to give pretty good reasoning behind his reads he is part of town I really like him right now.

Xata, have you changed your mind about ray and what you originally posted him as? Also if you give Ray a -1 for being asleep when hes usually not active on the boards shouldn't the other people who have 0s have -1 to?

I think I disagree with the GB and Wave rankings the most. GB is townish to me right now besides the awkward re-entrance to the thread and asking for summary which is just weird and seems strange.

You say wave responds to kel in a casual/towny type way? I don't see that at all, it looked like to me he waited on someone else to call him stupid and then jumped on him, and then asked the same question to multiple people and didn't draw conclusions up to that point about them instead he just left that doesn't seem very towny to me. Confused why you gave him such a strong town read

Yup definitely not liking Damdred
Devotes long catchup post to restating everything that has been said already in thread by other people

Super apologetic
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:20 Damdred wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So far were doing good.
We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town.
Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players.

I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly.
Is there anyone who thinks they are town?


KSC - yeah probably town, really feels like he believes his own ideas and pushes them strongly without care for how he's viewed as a result

jat - no idea, how do you townread him so strongly? he had a humongous filter as scum earlier so not activity... and he immediately jumped to discredit me without calling me scum when you called me scum... I just can't feel the strong townread so help me here

Robik - not as sure as last game but yeah leaning town for being pretty active and posting stuff

you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

WOS - my earlier townread on him was a bit faulty so I don't really anyhow heavily townread him anymore, why is he scum though?

GB - I don't necessarily think he's town anymore, his weird connection read on me+WOS, curiousness about someone townreading him, and overall awkward posts lately don't look good... could be scum I guess


Jat in his scum game was honestly useless, he only showed up to post things that somewhat made sense and he disappeared for long points of time and nobody called him on it he was just allowed to exist. Instead of doing that here, he is much more actively involved in the goings on of the day and is pressuring people to get their reads and not accepting at face value what they are saying but he seems to be digging to get a better understanding. I would strong town read JAT currently because of these reasons

On August 23 2014 01:13 Xatalos wrote:
What's the huge difference between scum jat and the jat in this game? Both here and there he constantly makes these one-liner subtly discrediting questions to people. And the activity level is about the same too I think. So why?


Could you show me these one liners where he is subtly discrediting people?

This post is a little better, specifically calling out Xat about where JAT is discrediting people. I don't think his above analysis of JAT is particularly correct though but it makes me wonder why Xat are you the only one who can't seem to get a handle on the fact that JAT is very obviously town?

Damdred, do some more stuff. Don't apologise for stuff, don't rehash stuff.
new stuff.


Little to no analysis just said I repeated stuff in the thread, which isn't necessarily true I was trying to get an updated view and was starting a discourse with xata. However the post just feels like hes trying to show i'm bad but he wont' commit to it hes waiting on someone else to jump on.
On August 23 2014 01:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Posted in there and deleted by accident.
Essentially I'm waiting on more from him
if this is the fence
---|----|----|---|---|----|----|---|--|---
damdred has fallen off onto the red side of the fence but when he fell his clothes got caught so he hasn't hit the ground yet
cyas


WHY WHY AM I ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE!

Wave has never shown why i'm mafia, he has never analyzed my posts beyond the simple this is bad and rehashed. Gave a limited selection of my posts and just keeps saying this guy could be scum and never commits to it. This guy is just trying to get more people to think i'm scum. There is no read on me in his posts, hes trying to get someone else to commit to it before he does therefore I am pretty sure wave is mafia going for a mislynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 16:55 GMT
#584
I also attacked damdred btw. do you think I am scum for it?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 22 2014 16:55 GMT
#585
On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?

What are you trying to achieve by asking this?


he needs to know who to nightkill tonight
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 16:56 GMT
#586
fuck Wave must be town.
I guess i'll go read Damdred again after sauna.
table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 16:58 GMT
#587
On August 23 2014 01:55 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?

What are you trying to achieve by asking this?


he needs to know who to nightkill tonight

Ah, of course why am I even asking? I am such a dummy.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 17:02 GMT
#588
On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?

What are you trying to achieve by asking this?


I could probably ask you the same thing.

I was basically asking if he believed Xat would make his partner one of his top town
Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 17:05 GMT
#589
On August 23 2014 02:02 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?

What are you trying to achieve by asking this?


I could probably ask you the same thing.

I was basically asking if he believed Xat would make his partner one of his top town

Connections cases on day1 tend to suck pretty hard. It just feels like a really irrelevant thing to ask.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 17:06 GMT
#590
On August 23 2014 01:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I also attacked damdred btw. do you think I am scum for it?


tbh I read you as strong town pretty early so I wasn't ever considering you scum for today.

I didn't actually see you attack dam tbh so not sure what you are talking about.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 17:07 GMT
#591
On August 23 2014 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:02 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 01:45 KelsierSC wrote:
rayn if you think Xat is mafia does that make WoS more or less scum?

What are you trying to achieve by asking this?


I could probably ask you the same thing.

I was basically asking if he believed Xat would make his partner one of his top town

Connections cases on day1 tend to suck pretty hard. It just feels like a really irrelevant thing to ask.

It is relevant to me
Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#592
On August 23 2014 02:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I also attacked damdred btw. do you think I am scum for it?


tbh I read you as strong town pretty early so I wasn't ever considering you scum for today.

I didn't actually see you attack dam tbh so not sure what you are talking about.

Well, I made some meta comparisons to his recent games and came to the conclusion that he was downplaying himself in his scumgame and not so much in his towngames.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 17:09 GMT
#593
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC?
table for two on a tv tray
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 17:11 GMT
#594
On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC?


you are a town read of mine.

I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum.

So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration
Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 17:11 GMT
#595
Why must Wave be town rayn?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 17:13 GMT
#596
On August 23 2014 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC?


you are a town read of mine.

I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum.

So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration

Why aren't you asking about his opinion on them then? Plain and simple. Why do you feel the need to create some kind of connection based read?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 17:15 GMT
#597
On August 23 2014 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC?


you are a town read of mine.

I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum.

So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration

Why aren't you asking about his opinion on them then? Plain and simple. Why do you feel the need to create some kind of connection based read?


The connection is something I use when making my read so if someone I think is town believes the connection is important then that factors into my read aswell.



Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 22 2014 17:17 GMT
#598
so rayn thinks the connection isn't that important it lets me evaluate WoS without that weighing on my mind and leaves me confident in my WoS scum read.
Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 17:17 GMT
#599
On August 23 2014 02:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 02:11 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 23 2014 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't unedrstand why you question your townreads instead of scumreads KSC?


you are a town read of mine.

I wanted to know how people i think are town view people I believe are scum.

So if you had said "i think it makes WoS seem more town" I take that into consideration

Why aren't you asking about his opinion on them then? Plain and simple. Why do you feel the need to create some kind of connection based read?


The connection is something I use when making my read so if someone I think is town believes the connection is important then that factors into my read aswell.




Maybe we just disagree on how to read people day1, whatever. If scumreading damdred is the only/biggest reason for your scumread on Wave then I don't like it.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 17:19 GMT
#600
On August 23 2014 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Why must Wave be town rayn?

It's not a must. Rayns just seeing what I'm seeing and thinking what I'm thinking
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