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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 15:53 GMT
#501
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.

You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 15:53 GMT
#502
On August 23 2014 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So far were doing good.
We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town.
Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players.

I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly.
Is there anyone who thinks they are town?

jat - no idea, how do you townread him so strongly? he had a humongous filter as scum earlier so not activity... and he immediately jumped to discredit me without calling me scum when you called me scum... I just can't feel the strong townread so help me here

If what I do is discrediting - why did you back down from all the reads I critisized you for? Also I DID call you scum several times already.


Yeah, after discrediting me for over a page or so? Well it's true that you turned out to be right on some points. I still think rayn is pretty nullish (based on the meta). And I also stand by my initial read of KSC.

Btw I think we were scum together in Intrigue? The game where BH got himself and 2 others modkilled? I don't remember much of what you did there, but I think you were a lot more lurky. Then again you had 24 pages in Championship. Gah.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 15:53 GMT
#503
On August 23 2014 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
PS GB's anger at being called out (whether truly for activity or not) while having a busy day AND attempting to post during lunch rings mega townbells with me. I should fucking know

I see why you would understand the anger in general but I don't understand why it rings townbells.

Precisely because when you are assaulted like this you are absolutely furious as town that anyone could ever accuse you because not only is it completely untrue but they shouldn't be accusing you in the first place. It's like hearing about those people who go to jail for 20 years and then they find out somebody else did it or whatever. Just massive anger right from the gut.

As scum you can fake the anger, sure, but it's not the same because even though they're accusing you correctly, it's for the wrong reason---it's not the same kind of righteous anger.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 15:55 GMT
#504
In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 15:56 GMT
#505
On August 23 2014 00:53 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 23:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So far were doing good.
We are not lynching me, KSC, JAT or Robik in any case. Because we are town.
Hapa and Onge have not postesd yet so there is at least one scum in active players.

I am leaning scum on Wave and Glowingbear, strongly.
Is there anyone who thinks they are town?

jat - no idea, how do you townread him so strongly? he had a humongous filter as scum earlier so not activity... and he immediately jumped to discredit me without calling me scum when you called me scum... I just can't feel the strong townread so help me here

If what I do is discrediting - why did you back down from all the reads I critisized you for? Also I DID call you scum several times already.


Yeah, after discrediting me for over a page or so? Well it's true that you turned out to be right on some points. I still think rayn is pretty nullish (based on the meta). And I also stand by my initial read of KSC.

Btw I think we were scum together in Intrigue? The game where BH got himself and 2 others modkilled? I don't remember much of what you did there, but I think you were a lot more lurky. Then again you had 24 pages in Championship. Gah.

Yes, we were buddies that game. And your posts there looked quite similar to the bolded part of this post. Saying things without coming to conclusions. It was the reason marv killed you.

I never attacked your Kelsier read and nullreading rayn is ok. But you weren't nullreading him at first.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 15:56 GMT
#506
On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?

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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 15:56 GMT
#507
On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.

You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.

Not a case. The 'everyone found him scummy' doesn't have anything to do with anything in terms of trying to prove anything, I'm just saying people found him scummy, I don't. It's an exaggeration. it's specifically the fact that he would be a horrible scummer if he played that listpost the way he did.

GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH I HATE THIS NITPICKING STYLE OF YOURS SO MUCH
Like you don't pick on grand points, you pick on semantics and stuff and it never gets you anywhere
It's so frustrating trying to prove to you I'm town because it happens this way every goddamn game
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 15:57 GMT
#508
On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?


No, you are null because you have played pretty similarly as both town and scum in recent games (not explaining stuff + pushing me hard early and then suddenly dropping it + being arrogant and confident in your reads).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 15:57 GMT
#509
On August 23 2014 00:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
PS GB's anger at being called out (whether truly for activity or not) while having a busy day AND attempting to post during lunch rings mega townbells with me. I should fucking know

I see why you would understand the anger in general but I don't understand why it rings townbells.

As scum you can fake the anger, sure, but it's not the same because even though they're accusing you correctly, it's for the wrong reason---it's not the same kind of righteous anger.

I don't know about that. You seemed pretty righteously angered as scum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 15:58 GMT
#510
Tell me Wave, what are grand points then?
You have two weak townreads and i have no idea why you think the people you are mafia are mafia.
Enlighten me because you have given us nothing concrete so far.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 15:59 GMT
#511
On August 23 2014 00:57 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?


No, you are null because you have played pretty similarly as both town and scum in recent games (not explaining stuff + pushing me hard early and then suddenly dropping it + being arrogant and confident in your reads).

But i have explained every singe thing i have said in this game.. As it READS IN MY FUCKING POST!
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 15:59 GMT
#512
On August 23 2014 00:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.

You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.

GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH I HATE THIS NITPICKING STYLE OF YOURS SO MUCH
Like you don't pick on grand points, you pick on semantics and stuff and it never gets you anywhere
It's so frustrating trying to prove to you I'm town because it happens this way every goddamn game

You seem to be quite certain that rayn is town, yes?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 15:59 GMT
#513
On August 23 2014 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?

THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THREAD SNETIMENT JESUS CHRIST
I ALSO MENTIONED PEOPLE WHO ARE AFK AND THEY DIDNT CALL XATALOS SCUM HURR DURR I MUST BE MAFIA
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 15:59 GMT
#514
Maybe we should just lynch Xatalos because he is refusing to answer directly to questions and dancing around the issue.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 16:00 GMT
#515
On August 23 2014 00:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.

You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.

GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH I HATE THIS NITPICKING STYLE OF YOURS SO MUCH
Like you don't pick on grand points, you pick on semantics and stuff and it never gets you anywhere
It's so frustrating trying to prove to you I'm town because it happens this way every goddamn game

You seem to be quite certain that rayn is town, yes?

Yeah fairly fucking certain. He tends not to do this shit as scum---0doesn't push relentlessly he is more content to sit back and not take an active role. Like you last game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 22 2014 16:00 GMT
#516
btw i think turtlevine is very likely to be mafia. looks like one of those players that wanted to try a new style on town and then rolled scum so they have no idea wtf to do now. Pretty good hunch by me.
I come in for the scraps
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#517
On August 23 2014 00:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In your list of possible mafia are three people who have not called Xatalos scum.
Do you know something i do not Wave?

THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THREAD SNETIMENT JESUS CHRIST
I ALSO MENTIONED PEOPLE WHO ARE AFK AND THEY DIDNT CALL XATALOS SCUM HURR DURR I MUST BE MAFIA

Yes because it is definitely possible either:
(1) Xatalos just fucked up or/and
(2) People who have not posted (+ yamato) are hisscumbuddies, YOU EVEN SAID SO YOURFUCKINGSELF!
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#518
On August 23 2014 01:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


On August 22 2014 23:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Possible scummers:
Damdred/KSC (and maybe Onegu or hapa or yamato? can't tell 'cause they're not here)
Damdred for reasons earlier that haven't resolved much---had a mind meld a little while ago which is +town but his posting since he's returned hasn't really done a lot for me. More forgettable scum than HOLYSHITOBVSCUM

Xat townread on me was a little odd but everyone found him scummy and everything he did in that listpost flies in the face of good scumplay so I doubt it tbh.

KSC still just can't tell either way---either skilled scummer or boring townie.

You call out someone for making a pre-flip association, then one of your reasons for reading Xatalos town for is pre-flip association... Which is btw horribly wrong because at least four people have not called Xatalos mafia in this game.

GOD I FORGOT HOW MUCH I HATE THIS NITPICKING STYLE OF YOURS SO MUCH
Like you don't pick on grand points, you pick on semantics and stuff and it never gets you anywhere
It's so frustrating trying to prove to you I'm town because it happens this way every goddamn game

You seem to be quite certain that rayn is town, yes?

Yeah fairly fucking certain. He tends not to do this shit as scum---0doesn't push relentlessly he is more content to sit back and not take an active role. Like you last game.

Wow, I HEAVILY disagree with this statement. If there is a player that pushes hard for mislynches and has an agenda as scum then it is rayn.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 16:01 GMT
#519
On August 23 2014 00:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tell me Wave, what are grand points then?
You have two weak townreads and i have no idea why you think the people you are mafia are mafia.
Enlighten me because you have given us nothing concrete so far.

Because I don't have anything concrete. I have explained exactly what I have on people thus far. My scumreads are simply those I have found scummiest so far, I am not sold on any of them. fucking hell
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 16:02 GMT
#520
On August 23 2014 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:57 Xatalos wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:08 Xatalos wrote:
you - still not sure, I think you're very capable of doing everything you've done so far as scum so hard to townread you

I thought i was scum because i was not being helpful? Or rather.. that could be a scumtell for me.
Am i still not helpful? You agree with me on most of the stuff and i have explained everything except for why i originally scumread Wave.

What's this Xatalos?


No, you are null because you have played pretty similarly as both town and scum in recent games (not explaining stuff + pushing me hard early and then suddenly dropping it + being arrogant and confident in your reads).

But i have explained every singe thing i have said in this game.. As it READS IN MY FUCKING POST!


Yeah actually you've been improving in recent pages. Maybe I should put you as +1. I'm still very hesitant to lean town on you because I made that mistake in Titanic and we only got lucky because the Vig randomly killed you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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