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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:22 GMT
#2988
On August 28 2014 11:21 turtlevine wrote:
GB left a lot for me in the mason QT, including a lot of arguments about why KSC and VA were scum. He had some associative tell stuff as well saying that it was unlikely but possible that both KSC and VA are scum.

VA's claim/unclaim is obvious scum backtracking

##vote VA


THEN POST HIS ARGUMENT!
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:24 GMT
#2991
On August 28 2014 11:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 11:14 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:13 yamato77 wrote:
I have to be mafia?

Ugh.


WoS can't afford to bus VA, neither can I

you can because town will just lynch me and WoS.

PoE

You realize scum has absolutely no choice right now, right?


ok the 3 people to be lynched at the moment are

Wos/Kel/VA

if you or me are mafia, we cant afford to bus VA. because then as mafia town lynches between the two of us and we just lose.

The only one who can afford to bus VA is yam, because in a final 3 of somehting like turtle, Yam, WoS who the fuck do you think turtle hammers.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:27 GMT
#2992
On August 28 2014 11:22 yamato77 wrote:
So Vayne is mafia because the fakeclaim nonsense is close to the worst claim I've ever witnessed in scum play on TL Mafia.

And KSC is his buddy because:

D2, he didn't want to lynch VA OR Hapa, which is exactly what mafia would be motivated to do.

Today, he 180s on Xata even AFTER questioning his claim at night + comes out and 180s on me with literally the worst post I've ever read where he VOTES THE GUY I'M VOTING, YET CALLS ME MAFIA FOR BUSSING HIM

And why would I bus in this way? Because apparently it gives me enough leeway to push 2 mislynches on WoS and himself.


oh my fucking god

D2 I have fucking explained this like 239423904u20934u times I was figuring out the game and I explained that if Hapa was town then town lost the game right there. it was a fucking risky play. I was ensuring town did not lose, how is that scummy in any way you fucking idiot.

Today of course i fucking 180 on Xata he claims cop and VA resends, like how stupid are you.

I explained why you can bus it is logic and you havent disputed it
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:30 GMT
#2995
On August 28 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote:
I don't understand mafia apparently,

Why would you bus the godfather day one when he has no pressure on him nobody is talking about him and hes pretty much town read by a good many people?


Well it got Yam town cred and he has you all convinced so it has worked for him


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:31 GMT
#2996
On August 28 2014 11:28 yamato77 wrote:
it's okay to concede


sick dodge the arguments

shame you cant dispute iron logic

it is ok to concede
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:35 GMT
#2998
On August 28 2014 11:33 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 11:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote:
I don't understand mafia apparently,

Why would you bus the godfather day one when he has no pressure on him nobody is talking about him and hes pretty much town read by a good many people?


Well it got Yam town cred and he has you all convinced so it has worked for him




So as mafia you would bus Robik, when you could of killed a townie (a cop no less), a good mislynch (which i'm sorry about xata). Instead you bus your godfather? Something with this argument doesn't jive, which btw killing xata would of fucked me over even more and i would of been lynched probably day 2 for pushing Xata over the top basically.


Yam did not know Xata was cop.

Yam looked really fucking scummy at the end of d1, if you remember votes were on yam and he would probably be lynched.
Bussing Robik got him lots of credibility.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:36 GMT
#3000
On August 28 2014 11:35 yamato77 wrote:
kels, unfortunately for you, I have a reputation as a horrible scum player

not because I couldn't play well as mafia (I have survived to endgame in a stacked town)

but because I'm far and away a better town player

one of the best town players when I'm trying to win the game

that comes in handy when I want to crush scumteams like I wanted to after we lynched Robik on d1

you just happened to be on the receiving end of this punishment

blame wos/xatalos for making me really fucking mad at the end of d1


dispute the logic

oh wait you cant

dont give me bullshit about previous games
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:39 GMT
#3003
On August 28 2014 11:38 yamato77 wrote:
the logic speaks for itself, pal

we'll let the rest of town decide what they think of your brilliant argument


so you cant dispute the logic
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:42 GMT
#3006
Alright I need sleep, going to basically win game for town now.

VA is mafia, like his claim was not town orientated in anyway, it was shit tier play.


Then as we see town considers the lynch between Kel/WoS/VA

I thought it was VA, WoS thought it was VA. It is impossible that either of us can bus here because town would just lynch between me and WoS afterwards and win the game.

Then Yam shows up and votes VA, he is the only one that can bus VA because he has town cred and town just lynches me and WoS after VA and Yam wins as mafia.

iron clad logic, ez win.



Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:45 GMT
#3010
On August 28 2014 11:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 11:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:33 Damdred wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:28 Damdred wrote:
I don't understand mafia apparently,

Why would you bus the godfather day one when he has no pressure on him nobody is talking about him and hes pretty much town read by a good many people?


Well it got Yam town cred and he has you all convinced so it has worked for him




So as mafia you would bus Robik, when you could of killed a townie (a cop no less), a good mislynch (which i'm sorry about xata). Instead you bus your godfather? Something with this argument doesn't jive, which btw killing xata would of fucked me over even more and i would of been lynched probably day 2 for pushing Xata over the top basically.


Yam did not know Xata was cop.

Yam looked really fucking scummy at the end of d1, if you remember votes were on yam and he would probably be lynched.
Bussing Robik got him lots of credibility.


Yam always looks scummy, Xata had been blue dropping since day one if you actually look. He had the biggest filter and was the most town looking person in the game in retrospect even if he said scummy things if you have almost a 20 page filter by the end of day 1 you are going to say some stupid ass shit that will look scummy. Hes an excellent mislynch, GB went on Xata. Scum Yamato would of just sat there and left Godfather Rob alone. Yamato came out and played so much much more towny day 2 onward.

You said it yourself mafia wouldn't of wanted to get rid of SK at that point as sk would only want to shoot town after losing a mafia day 1. It made the most sense but what does mafia yamato do? He goes and pushes the shit out of sk hapa who dies and is sk. Wait that doesn't make any sense to me, Scum yamato wouldn't do that he wouldn't put his neck out like that. He would be meek and push Xata hell he wouldn't even of made a case on xata night 1 if he was scum. He would be in his mafia QT happy that xata died.

His play on night 1, day 2 and here are towny. Yours are just defensive and insulting at this point.


Again this doesn't dispute the logic

I think mafia played badly lynching the SK, I guess mafia just played badly, or Yam wanted to get extra town points.

Also Yam was hugely suspicous end of D1 if he votes on Xata then he instantly gets lynched D2.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:47 GMT
#3012
On August 28 2014 11:46 Damdred wrote:
You aren't using logic you are using conjecture just as my narrative is.


no mine is logic, you cant dispute it
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:49 GMT
#3015
On August 28 2014 11:47 Damdred wrote:
If yamato came out d2 onward like he did anyway he wouldn't of gotten lynched I woudl of gotten lynched I was the one who got yamato on the xata wagon.


Nah I think it is more likely that yam gets lynched to be honest. He was scummier than you d1


Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:50 GMT
#3017
On August 28 2014 11:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 11:47 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 28 2014 11:46 Damdred wrote:
You aren't using logic you are using conjecture just as my narrative is.


no mine is logic, you cant dispute it


I can play this game to

No mine is logic, you can't dispute it because i'm using logic



The fact you can't find a counter to my argument just proves my point
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 02:51 GMT
#3018
Going off to bed now but want this point to be the last in my filter for when turtle decides to rejoin the game

VA is mafia, like his claim was not town orientated in anyway, it was shit tier play.


Then as we see town considers the lynch between Kel/WoS/VA

I thought it was VA, WoS thought it was VA. It is impossible that either of us can bus here because town would just lynch between me and WoS afterwards and win the game.

Then Yam shows up and votes VA, he is the only one that can bus VA because he has town cred and town just lynches me and WoS after VA and Yam wins as mafia.

iron clad logic, ez win.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:01 GMT
#3023
Yay confirmed town is thick as pig shit.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:07 GMT
#3024
If confirmed town play like imbeciles then i am going to call them idiots. If you are confirmed you have an obligation not be a fuckwit. Sorry i wont try and suck you off but you don't understand simple logic and i winder if you can even dress yourself
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:18 GMT
#3026
I wont sugar coat to soothe someones ego, confirmed town using bad reasoning or no reasoning to call you mafia is the stupidest thing ever.

again it isn't conjecture it is logic and you repeatedly fail to see it , wonder why i am frustrated. Actually take the tine to analyse what i say and you might learn something
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:30 GMT
#3028
Again you don't analyse what i say or take into account i have played massively town this game.

you don't think you just go along as town calling each other great and saying "oh yamato i hope you don't flip town" give me a fucking break.

if I'm mafia i cant afford to bus va , neither can wos. Yam is mafia
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:44 GMT
#3030
God can no one think properly at all. I was waiting for yam to point out that WoS voting on Va doesn't matter because WiS needs 2 ML anyway and would be caught eventually. I guess yam would rather make dumb.jokes and.dam wants to pout and throw the word narrative around. Would have just helped me get 100% on yam as town.

but i guess people would rather get upset than try to understand the game.


yam is confirmed town i have been forcing that point before today. WoS and VA are the sxum
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 28 2014 03:50 GMT
#3032
On August 28 2014 12:49 Damdred wrote:
I'm going to bed and going to forget kels temper tantrum hopefully by the time i wake up


I'm sorry you let yourself get so upset.
Zerg for Life
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