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On August 27 2014 03:51 GlowingBear wrote:I actually can't damdred. You'll have to check my filter for the reasons I've brought. I'm only be able to be here by deadline. I'm at work now...
Hard to speak on a case when there is no case what so ever. I don't see a single reason why I am scum in any of your posts.
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On August 27 2014 05:18 turtlevine wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 05:10 Xatalos wrote:On August 27 2014 04:53 GlowingBear wrote:On August 27 2014 04:01 Xatalos wrote: And it's not like there is a strong case on him + he lynched scum on D1. My drunk personality lunched scum on day1. I don't believe Rayn and Hapa could be from the same alignment, so... Kill him Are you sure about that? I've seen town vs town ego wars before (besides Hapa didn't really participate outside of making the case). GB thinks that with the many falsified arguments going around, there was great animosity. So much that it couldn't be explained by reasonable townies disagreeing. His original hypothesis was that it was likely that at least one, possibly both were scum. This amount of chaos and bickering is a sign of scum involvement, in his opinion.
His hypothesis is that scum is trying to disrupt town? What a savant.
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On August 27 2014 05:29 GlowingBear wrote: Just votes KSC, he is mafia. If he isn't I promise I won't play the game for 1 month and I'll keep hosting to improve my gameplay
give a real reason so I can destroy your argument
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On August 27 2014 06:36 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote: Unless you have something else in your MasonQT that you haven't mentioned yet. Nope, I don't :/ It's my fault I can't write a comprehensive case on him. I'll try to do that while at night.
So you don't have a case on me and won't present a case on me till the night phase...but you want town to lynch me in the day.
Confirmed Town, Ladies and Gentleman, Round of Applause please.
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On August 27 2014 06:47 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 06:40 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2014 06:36 GlowingBear wrote:On August 27 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote: Unless you have something else in your MasonQT that you haven't mentioned yet. Nope, I don't :/ It's my fault I can't write a comprehensive case on him. I'll try to do that while at night. So you don't have a case on me and won't present a case on me till the night phase...but you want town to lynch me in the day. Confirmed Town, Ladies and Gentleman, Round of Applause please. I'm at work, I can't dive you and bring a comprehensive case on you before night time.. I've already brought arguments while I believe you're scum. But you can keep trying to discredit my gameplay.
You haven't brought any arguments for why I am scum that is what people keep trying to tell you.
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On August 27 2014 07:02 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 06:47 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2014 06:47 GlowingBear wrote:On August 27 2014 06:40 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2014 06:36 GlowingBear wrote:On August 27 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote: Unless you have something else in your MasonQT that you haven't mentioned yet. Nope, I don't :/ It's my fault I can't write a comprehensive case on him. I'll try to do that while at night. So you don't have a case on me and won't present a case on me till the night phase...but you want town to lynch me in the day. Confirmed Town, Ladies and Gentleman, Round of Applause please. I'm at work, I can't dive you and bring a comprehensive case on you before night time.. I've already brought arguments while I believe you're scum. But you can keep trying to discredit my gameplay. You haven't brought any arguments for why I am scum that is what people keep trying to tell you. I think things I've pointed out from you makes you scum.
NO YOU HAVEN'T HOLY FUCK YOU
you just said total bullshit that only half made sense and the other half I refuted easily.
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On August 27 2014 07:18 Xatalos wrote: One point against VA is that he hasn't basically done anything after claiming. One would think that he'd at least try to lead town into the right direction if his purpose was to do that by claiming. But no... He just claimed, went to lurking and hoped for the best...?
Yeh that is actually a very good point.
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Not going to lynch him though
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So a lot of people don't like Hapa and I agree I gave some thoughts on why he could be Sk, a lot of town people think he is SK, Today he has been kind of weak but that may change around deadline time. He may be a good lynch.
here is my major concern.
let's say we lynch hapa who flips town, then onegu is modkilled and he flips town.
if masons die in the night and one more town (Va for example). that leaves us with 5 left only 2 of which are town.
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I wonder if VA might be the best lynch here...
Hear my logic through.
So there are a lot of question marks on VA right now, maybe he is the real JoaT..certainly possible, maybe he is mafia.
if we lynch someone kind of random like Hapa who might be town then mafia can kill the masons and SK can kill VA, we end up in the horrible 5 man situation I just described.
If we lynch VA and he is mafia then that is good.
If we lynch VA and he is town then SK has to take a bit of a wild guess when it comes to his kill. maybe he kills a scum either way it gives us some more information.
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worst case scenario if we lynch hapa and he is town and onegu is town. masons + VA die
we have a final 5 consisting of. Me,Yat,Xat,WoS and Dam
we lynch VA and he is town. then onegu dies as town.
masons + X die
final 5 probably looks like Hapa, WoS, me,Xat and Dam
ok we don't lynch VA because in the second final 5 there are no confirmed town. (Yam is confirmed IMO)
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if we lynch Onegu and he is town
masons + VA dies
we have a final 6 of Hapa,me,Xat,Yam,WoS and Dam
this might be better
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On August 27 2014 07:44 Xatalos wrote: Hmm... I'm not sure how the NK targets change depending on if we lynch VA or Hapa? Won't they be aiming for the Masons regardless?
I thought if you kill a mason they both die?
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On August 27 2014 07:47 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 07:46 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2014 07:44 Xatalos wrote: Hmm... I'm not sure how the NK targets change depending on if we lynch VA or Hapa? Won't they be aiming for the Masons regardless? I thought if you kill a mason they both die? No.
Ok then ignore my analysis completely
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Alright so why cant we just lynch Onegu here.
if he is scum we get scum, if he is town
we will have 7 left. either 2 confirms in that group or 1 confirmed and VA with a check
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On August 27 2014 07:53 Damdred wrote: Except vayne hasn't voted and could get mod killed himself. You both think VA claim is probably right. but you want to kill him anyway when we think we have the sk dead to rights anyway? Yeaaaaa
maybe both of you are mafia together since all a sudden you guys seem the best of pals when kel said he'd want to do the opposite of xata maybe the kel wagon has a shot
what the fuck are you talking about
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On August 27 2014 07:55 Xatalos wrote: But yeah... The worst case scenario is that we mislynch today and Onegu is modkilled + flips town and we lose 2 more during the night. That would leave us with only 2 remaining town and basically a certain loss. Especially if both the Masons die, it's just hopeless. Although in that situation SK might be aiming at scum since scum would have the advantage in that situation. We'd still be in dire straits.
we would have 3 town in that situation I believe.
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On August 27 2014 07:56 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 07:56 KelsierSC wrote:On August 27 2014 07:55 Xatalos wrote: But yeah... The worst case scenario is that we mislynch today and Onegu is modkilled + flips town and we lose 2 more during the night. That would leave us with only 2 remaining town and basically a certain loss. Especially if both the Masons die, it's just hopeless. Although in that situation SK might be aiming at scum since scum would have the advantage in that situation. We'd still be in dire straits. we would have 3 town in that situation I believe. 5 - 3 = 2?
10 of us left.
we lose 2 town to lynches/modkills
we lose 2 town to the SK and the mafia.
that gives us 6 left
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On August 27 2014 07:57 yamato77 wrote: How do you guys know how many mafia there are?
3 mafia for a balanced set up with this many players.
4 mafia and a GF would probably be unfair
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That is why I am reluctant to lynch Hapa, I understand that he is not playing town. A lot of people think he is the SK.
But if he does flip town we will be in a position with 6 players left with 3 town, 1 kinda confirmed town (yam)
if we lynch onegu then we are 7 players left with 4 town, 1 kinda confirmed.
I need to do more math on that but I think the second scenario is better for town.
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