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On August 19 2014 05:24 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 05:18 Xatalos wrote:On August 19 2014 05:13 geript wrote:
##unvote
##vote glowybear
Damdref might actually be town and i'm townreading a scum in robik/oats/yam. Poof hasn't posted at the right times either; he's pretty much a lock for scum too. Don't care which of poof/gb we lynch first. peace The only thing holding me back about Tehpoofter is how similar his last towngame looked to this game. Did you look? In any case, objectively looking it doesn't look very good. Holy shit I hat charter. When > what re: banks.
I didn't understand anything you just said.
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Could we have a countdown to the next deadline in day/nightposts? I'm having a bit of trouble following the times.
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I guess it'll be pretty challenging to read him using filters then >.>
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Well, can't say I'm unhappy lynching into GB/Tehpoofter atm so that means I basically agree with you geript.
Why do you think that there has to be scum among Robik/yamato/Oats? The remaining players are too towny?
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Atm I think Robik and yamato are town and Oats maybe. Apparently he's much worse as scum.
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Oats: so you agreed with rayn originally? It didn't feel like that since you said something like "that doesn't make sense rayn". Or did you mean that Damdred's post made no sense? Whatever, I doubt this train of thought would lead to much of anything. Just got a bit confused by your filter.
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On August 19 2014 14:16 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 13:44 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 13:19 IAmRobik wrote:
I love how people can sit there and call me scum for really stupid reasons, and yet not know someone's opinion on their top scum read when they've said it at least 3 times I've re read your filter and all I've got was you calling me scum once and saying I'm wrong for reading you a scum. For town passes, you just say that you think oats is town because god knows why, Xatalos is town because he has a big filter, and Yamato town because god knows why. Give me an updated read on people? Specially, what do you think of geprit? 1) I was referring to you not knowing that Geript has called me town 3 times and you're asking him what he thinks of me 2) Oats is obviously town if you don't know that, then you have never played with him. 3) I never called yamato town 4) The Xatalos read is whatever. He's blah in my eyes -- I even mentioned the fact that it doesn't seem like he's actually doing all too much this game except asking random questions and recapping what's occurred instead of giving his own points of view. Nevertheless, I find that mafia is rarely in the top posters of a game. The only exception being TL Order, in which Holy and I were two of the top posters. Nevertheless that's rare, and I was only up there because I was hydra'd and mocsta would post when I didn't know what to say.
Well yeah, I haven't been that actively pushing my views yet. You'll get to see that more once my reads are a bit stronger and/or the situation demands it (closer to deadline etc.). Btw the deadline is in like 10 hours? I think the gun should be used soon enough to aid with the lynch decision.
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Oh wait, you can "save" the bullet to another day? In that case it should be probably saved for later.
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Oh ok.
geript, could you explain the Tehpoofter timing thing?
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At this point I think yamato, geript and Robik are town, and maybe Damdred/Oats. Probably one of those two is scum. Then perhaps even both of GB/Tehpoofter are scum, but certainly at least one.
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On August 19 2014 07:26 Tehpoofter wrote:
I'm about to go play disc golf. I'll toss out general bang marry kills atm.
Marry: Xatanos - He went and looked up games and gave more than a shit and a half about the game you can be my one and only.
Bang: Oats - his n0 was really good and early day 1 as well. I've been foolde by his scum game before so I've only got him as bang.
Yamato - He needs to input more but I think that robik might have spewed him as town and he also seems to care at least a bit about the game so that makes him more townie in my eyes.
Kill: - Geript: His catchup post doesn't feel like old geript to me no conviction just like scumpile scumpile type things weird that he asked robik if he was right.
Robik - I feel his tone is super bad feels like mafia robik he also would be a bitch and kill rayn n0 cause he thinks rayn can read him well. I will say this I await his return to a computer where he can type out his shit properly see if that makes a difference.
Damdred GB I am very unsure on they could easily fall into my kill pile. Neither has done enough to impress me.
LOL. This post made me laugh, and the townreads aren't that bad. The "kill list" though... seems to be mostly based on gut feelings and not on really anything solid. Especially the geript read - first geript has "no conviction" but still he's giving reads left and right...? Plus I fail to see anything scummy about him asking Robik how right he is. I think it was more to get a read on Robik rather than to validate his own reads.
Could you elaborate on your scumreads Tehpoofter?
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On August 19 2014 23:29 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 19:33 Xatalos wrote:
At this point I think yamato, geript and Robik are town, and maybe Damdred/Oats. Probably one of those two is scum. Then perhaps even both of GB/Tehpoofter are scum, but certainly at least one. ??? Bad at math? Re the poofter read. If there were a way to tell you without telling Banks I would. But that took a bunch of time to cross reference things and it's not going to go to waste so easily.
1+2=3? And it's not like we'll have to catch the whole team today. That was just some rough estimation.
I can understand your stance, it's just that I generally prefer to win the current game over gaining an edge over time. But since I think you're town and I think your reads are good otherwise, I guess I can somewhat trust in your heuristic for the time being.
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On August 19 2014 23:34 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote:Day 1![[image loading]](http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/legend-conan-arnold-schwarzenegger.jpg) raynpelikoneet the cop is dead
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 19 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Any vote cast after 22:59 GMT (+00:00) will not be counted. Xat's right. Like 9 hours to go and it's like 1-1-1 or something. No lynch is not an option here. I'll consolidate on any of Dandruff, poofter or Giggles (but either of the latter is preferable). Get your shit together people.
It's plurality lynch though so consolidation isn't as crucial. In fact it might be better to have 2 competing wagons, like GB/Tehpoofter. That would provide more info. At the moment I'm leaning slightly more on GB since Tehpoofter feels so similar to his last towngame (even that marry/bang post is pretty identical to that game haha - although maybe he posted that since I was looking at his earlier game...).
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On August 19 2014 23:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 14:07 geript wrote:On August 19 2014 13:52 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 13:39 geript wrote:Since I'm finally home, I'll explain a few points on poofy: 1. The timing thing. Whether or not I'm right on what Marv saw is beside the point. Banks flat out stated he thought he knew what the timing thing was and is trying to emulate his town play. Who the fuck tries to emulate their town play as town???? 2. Banks has only pushed me as mafia when he's mafia. He also very much tends to do it at Lylo or right before Lylo. This is classic scum banks. 3. Banks fucking loves to wifom fake claim as town. He has like 2 posts about being cop after Rayn did it and nothing else. He's not playing for that fun factor at all which is super scummy for him. 4. He has no interest whatsoever in actually finding town. Rather he's focus on asking questions and doing jack shit until he actually picked up suspicion. EZPZ is scum would lynch As for GB, he's struggled to post. He had a pretty worthless entrance and then there was this gem of a post: On August 18 2014 10:43 GlowingBear wrote:On August 18 2014 10:33 Tehpoofter wrote:
I want it to be day 1 already lol. I feel like n0 is going insanely slow. Maybe because Palmar started it so late for the Euros but I want to get this shit going!! I also want to get this going but I have no idea how to start a trend. I've brought suspicions on Rayn but people dropped it fast so... Yeah. This is really odd. He's lost as to what he can do as town? Did he forget he could reread or go through filters? Like that's super scummy. Plus he reads me as super town but has no clue about my reads on people. Wtf?On Dandruff. Rayn had the scumread on him and Rayn's reads early are quite good. His read on Xat was super early and almost mystical; too good for when it came. And as he progressed he softened the read from town to maybe town to more likely to be town but like 55%. How essentially detatched and idk "plAying nice" he's being rubs me the wrong way. Plus it's weird that he's able to find town reads on people but that doesn't push him to think: "if these people (Xat/Oats) are town, then the three scum must be in those other 5 so let me look at them closely." You've COMPLETELY misread my post. I never called you super town (I actually told that I think you might be mafia) and I was talking about Robik, saying that I had no idea of who he thinks is mafia. Your point 2 on poof is a very bad argument lol and although you've brought some good points about him, he is playing very similar to the last game I've played with him, in which he was town. Ok noted and you're right that I read that one post of yours wrong. How does me not playing and the playing make me scum then? What are the similarities you've seen in poofy's play and link the game? Who do you think are town and why? I just think that lurking in the beginning of the game isn't good, it's easier to hop on later, so it's a mafia trait. Then your entrance wasn't good. I'll re read your filter to give a better read, as Robik said I didn't read you well enough. Poof is always asking questions to keep people giving information, he brings this marry bang kill list with some reads and then goes back into lurking. I'm on a phone, hard to link the game, but it was the last newbie game hosted by Haru. The only strong town read I have now is from Xatalos. He's been playing like he was playing on the last Titanic, where he was town, with a plus side that he is not dropping those "I think town is town and mafia is mafia" lines of him. He is giving genuine opinions about players and considering every possibility, and also putting a lot of effort.
I doubt geript was away for the beginning of the game on purpose. Besides it's usually easier for scum to post at the start of the game rather than later on (harder to post about general stuff), so that point doesn't really hold in any case.
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On August 20 2014 00:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 23:59 geript wrote:On August 19 2014 23:54 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 23:52 Xatalos wrote:On August 19 2014 23:34 geript wrote:On August 18 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote:Day 1raynpelikoneet the cop is dead
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 19 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Any vote cast after 22:59 GMT (+00:00) will not be counted. Xat's right. Like 9 hours to go and it's like 1-1-1 or something. No lynch is not an option here. I'll consolidate on any of Dandruff, poofter or Giggles (but either of the latter is preferable). Get your shit together people. It's plurality lynch though so consolidation isn't as crucial. In fact it might be better to have 2 competing wagons, like GB/Tehpoofter. That would provide more info. At the moment I'm leaning slightly more on GB since Tehpoofter feels so similar to his last towngame (even that marry/bang post is pretty identical to that game haha - although maybe he posted that since I was looking at his earlier game...). Why do you scumread me and poof, exactly? Why exactly does it matter? It matters because he did not give a solid read to his scumreads. He is only voting for me because my reads are "static/forced"? He doesn't like poofs n0, but I read no reasoning on his posts. He needs to show us his grounds on his scumreads. I can not explain myself when I don't understand why I'm being voted for exactly. I had a scumread on Robik and I'm pushingh on him. I specifically asked him to talk about you but he talked about four people but did not give a read on you. He town read oats because he is "obviously town" and all people that played with him should know that (?)
I didn't like your readpost earlier today where you basically set yourself up for the day with a set of players that you'd like to lynch on very lacking, even flat out wrong reasons (I think I explained about that earlier). It didn't feel like a townie looking for scum, but rather scum dumping a lynchlist to prepare for the deadline. Listing those reads so early, with a lot of (made up?) reasoning, and not really evaluating your reads ever since, feels like how scum would approach the lynch. That and process of elimination (with several townreads the odds of you flipping scum increase).
For Tehpoofter, it's just generally his apparent lack of direction / scumhunting and huge ratio of unnecessary posts that don't help the game in any way. And process of elimination.
Robik I think is town. I don't really know his meta, but the way he's been posting feels like he blends with the thread and expresses his thoughts as he thinks. It's generally hard for scum to just post stuff when anything could possibly give them away.
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On August 20 2014 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously nobody is looking into damdred as possible scum? ? ?
Xata, what changed your mind?
He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself.
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On August 20 2014 00:32 Damdred wrote:
Xata what do you think of Geript?
Probably town, his reads have seemed pretty good and he's had a lot of original content in his posts.
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On August 20 2014 00:36 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 00:35 Xatalos wrote:On August 20 2014 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously nobody is looking into damdred as possible scum? ? ?
Xata, what changed your mind?
He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself. what bias. We will revisit this tmr.
In the sense that I know only myself 100% being town, anyone strongly townreading me (especially with good reasoning) gains a bit of townie points.
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On August 20 2014 00:41 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2014 00:35 Xatalos wrote:On August 20 2014 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously nobody is looking into damdred as possible scum? ? ?
Xata, what changed your mind?
He may be scum, I just don't like lynching him right now as much as before. He reacted to pressure by posting a lot of original content and participating in the discussion - granted, it was in large part about townreading me, so maybe I'm a bit biased. At least I think his thoughts regarding me were correct. What I don't like is how he just casually threw some suspicion on GB and didn't really pursue the issue himself. Are you serious right here? here are the posts where i pursued the issue with GB Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:
GB, while i agree its weird that Rob is lurking and spamming he thread like he normally would he did explain that his work blocked the webpages and he will be able to be more critical when he is at home. I want to give him that chance, because it is weird having a non spammy rob.
But its not alignment indicative also. Also GB do you really think Rob is the best vote today? Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:On August 19 2014 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:
GB, while i agree its weird that Rob is lurking and spamming he thread like he normally would he did explain that his work blocked the webpages and he will be able to be more critical when he is at home. I want to give him that chance, because it is weird having a non spammy rob.
But its not alignment indicative also. Also GB do you really think Rob is the best vote today? I think Robik is the best vote now, for the reasons I've brought. I don't like Yamato and gprit lurking as well. Actually your case draws strength from rob not being rob like atleast thats what it seems. Rob pointing out a scummy post by you doesn't show that hes scummy infact he wasn't the first person really to draw attention your way, and hes told the thread about his posting issues so I really don't think you have a case. Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 02:11 Damdred wrote:On August 19 2014 02:03 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 01:57 Damdred wrote:On August 19 2014 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:On August 19 2014 01:38 Damdred wrote:
GB, while i agree its weird that Rob is lurking and spamming he thread like he normally would he did explain that his work blocked the webpages and he will be able to be more critical when he is at home. I want to give him that chance, because it is weird having a non spammy rob.
But its not alignment indicative also. Also GB do you really think Rob is the best vote today? I think Robik is the best vote now, for the reasons I've brought. I don't like Yamato and gprit lurking as well. Actually your case draws strength from rob not being rob like atleast thats what it seems. Rob pointing out a scummy post by you doesn't show that hes scummy infact he wasn't the first person really to draw attention your way, and hes told the thread about his posting issues so I really don't think you have a case. You're the first wagon. If you say you're town and if you believe Robik isn't mafia, who is? It doesn't matter who the first wagon is honestly either you think i'm town or you don't. I didn't say Rob wasn't mafia I said your case was anon case and you should give him time to get home and be more critical to see if he acts normal or not. I'd say from his limited postings I don't see a lot of anything scummy about what he has posted. Right now it's hard for me to ignore Yamato since he hasn't posted, but its still early in day one and certain people haven't posted at all. There just is not a lot to go on, got a few town leans right now, and you seem weird to me right now GB. You have thrown suspicion on several players, and when some pressure was added to you, you honestly threw some more suspicion and left the thread/lurked until recently when you decided to jump on Rob. Just is weird for you right now Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 03:32 Damdred wrote:
Right now you have two wagons GB, Rob and Damdred (go me),
To me neither wagon seems really strong one is based off of a sorta meta read where rob isn't being his normal rob self, he explained it well before you posted that his work blocked websites and hes slower than normal and not able to play as critically as when hes at home, yet you vote for him (granted i been playing in a lot of IML games so votes don't have as big of impact). You use the same excuse as Rob does that you can't post as much or quote as much since you are on the phone most of the time and you find him lurky. Neither of these reasons seem really hard enough for a vote or a good case. If someone else gave this case GB would you find it a good enough case to vote for?
Your Damdred case (or case on me XD) revolves around one of my first posts that I made shortly after getting off a long shift. I rightfully got attacked on it. This case is better than Robs case that it is a weird post but it seems to neglect a lot of the content that came after the day 1 start. Looking at the day and how its went and participation would you vote for this case over rob?
Would you vote for either of these cases or would you look elsewhere or at the person presenting the cases GB? To me neither case makes much sense and just feels like flinging stuff until you find something that sticks. And I don't like it don't like it at all. Also you cast some doubt on ray and its a good tactic mafia would use to distance themselves from the ray kill, so even though Xat would say why would they do this I can see it. Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 03:33 Damdred wrote:
Also gb i forgot to ask whats up with the lurkers? Almost everyone has commented on them and of course I don't want them to lurk and nobody does since we can't get good reads and it will make lylo really hard if one of them makes it Why are you lying on me Xata? There was NOTHING casual about this I went after GB and didn't stop and GB eventually left the thread and came back today....why are you saying things like this
I meant casual in the way how you originally just said something like "GB seems a bit weird, he should be watched" when asked for scumreads, not committing to anything. But you have actually posted about GB after that, that was incorrect of me to say. Maybe your posts have just been a bit "tame" in the sense that they're mostly questions or descriptions rather than expressing that much of your own opinion in them.
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