Yeah... that endpost was pretty bad in retrospect...

Main thing, was that I was thinking at the moment, that you would turn this thing into something like "you two now behave your best to make me not angry" and I kicked myself for putting you in charge of the misslynch.
Turned out it was the right call after all... but still, I could have put a lot more effort into it after your questions and I basically put the whole game at risk for me.

I basically took a gamble, that you would stick with your guesses you posted.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

September 04 2014 23:32 GMT

#882

First of all:
Thanks for hosting this to amiko, alakaslam and glowingbear and putting this much effort in you Day/Night-Posts.
And also thanks for coaching to Holyflare and Shinobi.

The one thing I didn't like was the inactivity... especially lilwade and abuse. The game would have been a lot more fun, had they taken part in it... lilwade for being my partner and abuse for his critical reads, even though they were wrong, when it got to superbia...

lilwade actually managed to get himself modkilled after posting in the mafia-QT, which I still can't process fully...
That's also why breshke died in N2. Wade wanted to go head to head in the lynchvotes vs superbia, since at that time abuse + marine were totally on the superbia-scumtrain and we could have gotten the misslynch there... but then he manages to not post, while playing an other game her on this site...

To answer your question, superbia: I wasn't sure about Jennys view on the two of us and the post you made shortly before EoN seemed like you believed in what you said. And since I read you as someone, who doesn't change his mind easily, once he is convinced, I thought you were a safer bet than Jenny. Also I felt like I had some credit with you for not lynching you D2.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

September 04 2014 23:52 GMT

#886

It was partly intentional...
I mentioned in the mafia-QT, I thought me going full emotional and defensive wouldn't fit to the way I played this game at all and I also never really attacked someone hard this game... I had two solid cases vs wade and superbia but never really attacked anybody with full force. So going all ham on Jenny would also not fit...
It felt for me like superbia wanted more or less confirmation on his reads, he posted the night before and I tried to give him this by staying "in character".

Everybody telling me, I should be more emotional / aggressive in this last post got me thinking though... will definitely take this into consideration, should I ever get in a lylo-situation again.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

September 04 2014 23:56 GMT

#887

On September 05 2014 08:44 Tehpoofter wrote:
I'd love to hear why Breshke was the kill n1 he seemed to be a prime target for a lynch so curious what mafia's thoughts were on that.

I gave that reason already... you don't pay attention to the thread, scum! :p

Driving force behind this was lilwade. My kill for this night would have been abuse or superbia, iirc.
Wades line of thought was, that he wanted to form a wagon against superbia the next day, because the thread (abuse and daydreamarine) were pretty sure, superbia was scum, so that would have been two sure votes on superbia together with lilwades and mine this would have been a sure misslynch. Basically it was lilwade, arguing he had a better chance vs superbia than vs breshke and I think it would have worked... but then came the modkills. :D

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

September 05 2014 13:04 GMT

#915

On September 05 2014 15:12 gobbledydook wrote:
superbia you are the one of the worst town i have ever seen

you were unimaginably wrong the whole game and I am extremely frustrated by your bad play.

That's absolutely uncalled for... especially coming from you, since you gave us a super easy day1 misslynch with your attitiude/manners and (in-)activity during D1/EoD1.
You made your sign-in-post, saying 'somebody teach you, how not to be a shitty town'... maybe work on not getting yourself killed D1 for shitty attitude. But then again... looking at the obs-QT, I guess your answer is "lol, don't lecture me"?

Superbia may not have been right about most tells, but to be fair... Who had me as scum in any of their posts before lylo? Jenny said, she had suspicions about me but they can't be seen anywhere in the thread till D3 and Meatpudding mentioned, he wasn't too sure about me, but I guess that's it?

At least superbia tried and playing with/against him was fun, which - judging from this game and the way you've played in it - can't be said about you.

@abuse: I read your coach-QT and I must say, I'm impressed... the two of us think pretty much alike. Looking forward to play some more games with you - hopefully with a more europe-friendly deadline and no weddings interferring with the game.

@superbia: I find your name pretty fitting and think you are pretty self-(over-)confident. Maybe, you should work on this a little bit... Had you been humble enough, to question your opinion on Jenny and me again, when we went into lylo, I think there is a high chance for you to win this game and become town-hero but you stuck to your opinion - in my opinion, because you were to proud to admit to yourself, that you might be wrong and because you didn't want to second-guess yourself. I could be totally wrong here, but that was my impression of you.
Nonetheless, I enjoyed playing vs. you. Chances are, I wouldn't like playing with you, but that's an other story.

On all this stuff considering playing dirty and lieing as mafia... I think the only two lies I told in this game were my two claims of being town and being bulletproof... the rest of the game was pretty "clean", I feel...
I'm not really confident with lieing into peoples face, I guess, that comes with practice as scum. ^^

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

September 05 2014 13:14 GMT

#917

Well, then you are a pretty good actor. ^^
The only reason I always refrained from shooting you was me thinking "how can anybody be this obnoxious and full of himself without having a safety-net?"... Your cocky behaviour and all this stuff was kind of a soft-bulletproof-claim to me.
Glad to see, that this was all a facade, because tbh... I found you pretty annoying. :D

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

September 05 2014 13:26 GMT

#921

Thing is: You can't kill Jenny in this game, where there is a doc/jailkeeper in the game... she was the most obvious save N1, so shooting her was pointless. Once we found out about the setup and who was Jailkeeper (I suspected Marine to be JK right after him claiming superbia fakeclaimed he was Jailkeeper at the start of D2), it would still have taken a night to remove him from the game, since Marine confirmed himself as town by not knowing the rules and there was no way, we would get a misslynch on him. So the plan had to be, to somehow go around Jenny and it would have worked way better with a present lilwade.

Barakos

Germany358 Posts

September 05 2014 15:41 GMT

#925

Cut this bs on superbia maybe?
He took all the blame for a wrong decision, that wasn't even easy to begin with... and it's not like 2 town-modkills didn't help mafia immensely. Imagine, what this game would have looked like with 5 town alive instead of 3. You and marine played a huge role in this mafia victory as well.

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