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Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 22:08 GMT
#642
That's exactly why I am not voting him... I may be too lenient, when it comes to this, but being in this game has already changed my stance on killing inactives. I feel I am still cutting them way too much slack. Never thought silence could be as annoying, as it is right now...
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 22:11 GMT
#644
But as you said... there is a chance he is legitimately afk, maybe for severe reasons, so he didn't have a chance to announce it here.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 22:16 GMT
#645
go hard on him and mihzaaa. wade has been cut slack from everybody, especially jenny. This credit is used up, after tonight, i feel. Jenny is absolutely right. Going into mylo/lylo with blank-reads just wont work.
If we don't get consecutive mafia-lynches and it comes to a do-or-die, i want to be in it with people I have as many sources for reads as possible.
Also on daydreamarine... confirmed town or not. He has shown at some points, that he has the time to participate but just doesn't...
While marine still has to understand, that activity is key to bringing up thoughts about the game, the other two already should know better.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 22:22 GMT
#648
No... especially bulletproof shouldn't out, i feel.
If we go to mylo and no-lynch as jenny suggested, mafia would be given an extra night, by shooting the bulletproof for a nokill and another day in the mylo-scenario.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 22:23 GMT
#649
and mylo is better for them, since it is 4/2, while lylo is 3/2
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 23:02 GMT
#654
Are you still here, Breshke?
If so, could you give your impression on what you make of my case on superbia?
I am looking further into it, cause he pointed out, that I was too harsh at one point...
Do you see other things that I might interpret too harsh?
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 23:25 GMT
#658
That's exactly the point. He could have kept his vote, to avoid attention and he could have switched his vote, to avoid attention.
Both paths were viable at this moment, so his choice isn't alignment indicative.
If anything I am willing to give him credit for sticking with his instincts, after he made the choice to vote on gobbledydook. Switching would have looked like trying to avoid blame for the misslynch.

and superbia: no, I don't think so... weddings in eastern europe / russia are really big happenings with lots of vodka. I've seen this first hand. He also might point out, that things are likely to get crazy. :D
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 30 2014 23:26 GMT
#659
He also pointed out...
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:14 GMT
#666
Wait fore some more and see, if Jenny joins in, of if she is too ill.
There is a bit new interaction between us, which I felt was positive.
I would like to get Jennys opinion on this too.

This could be really bad... With things being as they are, we might kill 3 people tonight? 2 modkilled for not voting + you...
If wade doesn't show up, I am revoking my vote on you, since I don't want to see 3 people dead.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:16 GMT
#669
This is just insane... we are 8 left and only 3 are here atm... 2 got an excuse and 3 go full submarine-mode
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:33 GMT
#683
I am not sold on lynching wade. Jenny gave him the benefit of the doubt.
If anybody deserves to get lynched for inactivity this day, it is MihZaaa, who failed to post and vote.

Amiko - what happens in the case of this double-infraction?
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:42 GMT
#688
Actually... I don't fancy voting for you over MihZaaa anymore. This silence is annoying.

I will digg into lilwade tomorrow to get him talking, Jenny is absolutely right, when she says, that blank-reads shouldn't be in mylo, MihZaaa is a blank read, so get rid of him...

On top of that, you made a lot more sense today, than you did all D1 and your posts got more serious. Maybe this pressure was, what was needed, to get you on valid town-game.

##unvote
##vote MihZaaa
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:45 GMT
#694
Don't make me regret this later, Superbia.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:47 GMT
#698
Got any spontaneous thoughts, you want to throw in the ring, Jenny?
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:48 GMT
#699
Also thanks for being here and get well soon
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:58 GMT
#715
I know, i shied away from you the first time, Jenny, but let's make this night our night! Be my princess and I will be yours.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 00:58 GMT
#717
Best dressed donkey in all disneytopia.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 01:13 GMT
#727
Off to bed. I hate this game right now. -.-'
See you in a few hours.
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 08:40 GMT
#733
Morning everybody.

As I said last night, I did some digging into lilwade.
I still think, we need to discuss, what happend yesterday, I still want to get this out as soon as possible.

lilwade:

You came in with some questions to random people that I felt were to search for possible points where you could attack townfolk and get a misslynch going.
In this first post, you missed several posts. For example my criticism on superbias post or my reservations about abuse. I already stated, that I disliked him D1, yet you still asked about my thoughts.
So you didn't read all the posts before writing your post... asked general questions and even asked things, that already have been answered only two hours before you made your entrance. If you acutally had payed attention, you would have known this.
So why did you actually ask me about superbias case again? Did you want to draw attention to it, cause you liked the fact, that it was pretty confusing?

Then came the night. You went into the night with having MihZaaa as your hardest scumread, because MihZaaas gave a one line reason to vote for gobble, when mihzaaa actually had two posts regarding gobble out of which his vote makes some sense. gobbles retreat was, what triggered his vote, after he pointed out, that gobble came into the thread and just jumped on the actual trend. MihZaaas vote does make sense, again, you just failed to read the thread.

Then the next day, you fail to give a complete answer to my question, why you jumped back and forth... I followed up and you only answered after I reminded you of my post...
Again you missed a post... again you leave the impression, that you don't actually read the thread but just hop in and out of it as you please.

Then on D2 you come into the thread and post
"Marry - Daydreamarine after his day 2 activity I think it is undeniable this guy is top town."
Daydreamarine jumps from being absolutely unreadable to top town for his activitys? For which of them? For his case on superbia, which is flawed as hell or for his general reads on me and jenny, which brought no real new insight?

Or maybe you just read, that I had him as confirmed town but didn't bother with my reasoning, because as I said... Daydreamarine is one of the top towns. But not for his activity, but mostly for missunderstanding rules.

Or maybe - and this is, what I didn't notice up until now - maybe it is, what daydreamarine reads into meatpuddings activity, which is that meatpudding reads superbia as scum and wanted to copcheck him and therefore dies. Totally aside, that daydreamarines logic here is flawed again... but you know, what meatpuddings last words were, before he died? "lilwade is my top scum."
You basically liked what daydreamarine said, because he failed to see, that meatpudding read you as top scum and had you on his scumlist almost the entire game.
I got sidetracked as hell by Daydreamarine saying, superbia was one of the people, that meatpudding hat on his scumlist, but you were on meatpuddings scumlist the entire time. He even had you as his top scum. This is a possible answer to the question, why meatpudding died, I have missed the entire time, although it was right out there.

So lilwade. You still owe me an answer to my question about you switch back to MihZaaa. And you need to defend yourself. Get active!
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
August 31 2014 08:55 GMT
#734
On last nights voting:
I feel like most of the blame has to be put on me.
To give you my reasoning:
Me feelings during the night changed from superbia being almost definitly scum at the beginning and when I made my case more to the way Jenny felt about him. His defense was reasonable, his cases on lilwade and breshke made sense but were too weak, to form another wagon, which he realised.
In my eyes mafia would have taken any chance to form another wagon, to raise the chances of them not being hit, so him not trying to push through his weak cases gave me town-vibes from him.
After that we talked through some stuff and I again got the feeling, that he didn't want to sidetrack me but more or less try to get some final thoughts out of his head, so we would have more to work on, in case of him dieing.
At the end of the night, my scumread on him was pretty weak and I had to make the call, with whom I would rather continue playing... the player I had a scumread on or the player, that was pretty much nonexistant.
(In hindsight: Shouldn't he have been given a warning, for not posting at night, and then be modkilled for not posting on the following day?)
I still feel, in this moment it was the right. I just hate the results.

And what I forgot in my frustration about the latest events:
Rest in piece, MihZaaa
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